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U.S. Department of Justice United States Attorney Southern District of Florida First Assistant U.S. Attorney 7 99 N.E. 4 Street Miami, FL 33132 (305) 961-9100 DELIVERY BY FACSIMILE May 19, 2008 Jay P. Lefkowitz, Esq. Kirkland & Ellis LLP Citigroup Center 153 East 53rd Street New York, New York 10022-4675 Re: Jeffrey Epstein Dear Mr. Lefkowitz, I am in receipt of your e-mail dated May 19, 2008 to the United States Attorney. The U.S. Attomey would like me to advise you that all communications and inquiries related to the Epstein matter, will be handled by AUSA Marie Villafana and/or her supervisor, Karen Atkinson, so he does not intend to respond to your e-mail or calls unless AUSA Villafana and/or her supetvisors advise him otherwise. Furthermore, you make reference to “our July 8 deadline.” Respectfully, the United _ States.Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida (“SDFL”) has never agreed to any such deadline. Should you decide to provide the SDFL with any additional information, please do so through AUSA Villafana, and, in her absence, AUSA Atkinson. On September 24, 2007, your client, Jeffrey Epstein, in consultation with Gerald Lefcourt, Esq. and Lilly Ann Sanchez, Esq., as well as numerous other nationally-renowned lawyers, including but not limited to Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz, former Independent Counsel and Solicitor General of the United States Kenneth Starr, just to name a few, entered into a global resolution of state and federal liabilities faced by your client (“the Agreement”) with the SDFL. Although you and other members of the défense team have since claimed that the Agreement was the product of adhesion, the following facts demonstrate that Epstein knowingly and voluntarily entered into the Agreement in order to avoid a federal indictment regarding his sexual conduct involving minor victims. Despite the fact that by signing the Agreement, Epstein gave up the right to object to its provisions, the SDFL bent over backwards to exhaustively consider and re-consider your objections. Since these objections have finally been exhausted and Epstein has previously expressed his intent to not comply with several of the terms and conditions of the Agreement as set forth below, the SDFL hereby notifies you that unless he complies with all of the terms and conditions of the Agreement, as modified by the United States Attorney’s December 19, 2007 letter to Ms. Sanchez by close of business on Monday, June 2, 2008, the SDFL will elect to terminate the Agreement. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012198
_ Jay P. LEFKOWITz, Esq. May 19, 2008 PAGE 2 OF 6 Background _ The Agreement was the product of months of negotiations. Specifically, you requested and received numerous meetings, at the highest levels of the SDFL and DOJ’s Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section (CEOS) concerning claims that (a) the investigation merely produced evidence of telatively innocuous sexual conduct with some minors who, unbeknownst to Epstein, misrepresented their ages; (b) the authorities investigating Epstein engaged in misconduct; (c) the contemplated federal statutes have no applicability to this matter; and (d) the federal authorities disregarded the fundamental policy against federal intervention with state criminal proceedings. Aftercareful review, the SDFL ultimately rejected those claims. Subsequent to its decision, however, but before proceeding any further, the SDFL provided you with 30 days to appeal the decision to the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Alice Fisher. As you recall, you chose to forego an appeal to AAG Fisher, and instead pursued a negotiated resolution which, ultimately, resulted in the _ execution of the Agreement. The Negotiation Phase During negotiations, you tried to avoid a resolution that called for incarceration and registration as a sexual offender — both of which would be triggered by a successful federal prosecution. The SDFL believed and continues to believe that should this matter proceed to trial, your client would be convicted of the federal statutes identified in the Agreement. In order to achieve a global resolution, the SDFL indicated a willingness to defer to the State the length of incarceration; however, it remained adamant that Epstein register as a sex offender and that all victims identified during the investigation remain eligible for compensation. In order to achieve this result, the parties considered two alternatives, a plea to federal charges that limited Epstein’s sentencing exposure, or, as suggested by you, a plea to state charges encompassing Epstein’s conduct. Ultimately, the parties agreed to, inter alia, a plea to the state charges outlined in the Agreement, registration and a method of compensation. The Agreement The crux of the Agreement defers in favor of the State federal prosecution of Epstein for his sexual conduct involving those minor victims identified as of September 24, 2007, in exchange for a guilty plea to a state-offense that requires registration as a sex offender; a sufficient term of imprisonment; and a method of compensation for the victims such that they would be placed in the same position as if Epstein had been convicted of one of the enumerated offenses set forth in Title 18, United States Code, Section 2255. Specifically, the Agreement mandates, inter alia, (1) a guilty plea in Palm Beach County Circuit Court to solicitation of prostitution (F1. Stat. Section 796.07) and procurement of minors to engage in prostitution (FI. Stat. Section 796.03) (an offense that requires him to register as a sex offender); (2) a 30-month sentence including 18 months’ incarceration in county jail; (3) a methodology to compensate the victims identified by the United States; (4) entry HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012199
a JAY P. LEFKOWITZ, ESQ. May 19, 2008 PAGE 3 OF 6 of the guilty plea and sentence no later than October 26, 2007; and (5) the start of the above- mentioned sentence no later than January 4, 2008. Furthermore, and significantly, Epstein agreed that he had the burden of ensuring compliance of the Agreement with the Palm Beach County State Attorney’s Office and the Judge of the 15 Judicial Circuit and “that the failure to do so will be a breach of the agreement” (emphasis added). Post-Execution of the Agreement Within weeks of the execution of the Agreement, you sought to delay the entry of Epstein’s guilty plea and sentence. After the SDFL agreed to accommodate your requést, counse/ for Epstein began taking issue with the methodology of compensation, notification to the victims, and the issues that had been previously considered and rejected during negotiations, i.e., that the conduct does not require registration and the contemplated state and federal statutes have no applicability to the instant matter. , A. Delay. The Agreement required that “Epstein shall use his best efforts to enter his guilty plea and be sentenced not later than October 26, 2007. The United States has no objection to Epstein self- reporting to begin serving his sentence not later than January 4, 2008.” Agreement, pages 4-5, paragraph | 1 (emphasis added). After the Agreement was executed, the SDFL accommodated your request to extend the October 26th plea deadline to November 20" based upon, what seemed to be, reasonable scheduling conflict issues.' By early November, you represented that the presiding state court judge would not “stagger the plea and sentencing as contemplated in the Agreement.” Although the Agreement clearly did not contemplate a staggered “plea and sentencing,” the SDFL again agreed to accommodate Epstein’s request to appear in state court for plea and sentencing on January 4, 2008.” t “Accordingly, I have now confirmed with Mr. Epstein's Florida counsel that the state's attorney's office and the court will be available to have him enter his plea on November 20. So we will plan to proceed on one that date.” October 18, 2007 email from Jay Lefkowitz to USA R. Alexander Acosta. ° On the same day, Mr. Lefkowitz confirmed with First Assistant Jeffrey H. Sloman that this postponement “ will not affect when Epstein begins serving his sentence.” Correspondence from Jay Lefkowitz to FAUSA Sloman dated November 8, 2007 (“the judge has invited the parties to appear for the plea and sentencing on January 4", we do not anticipate any delay beyond that date.”) HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012200
JAY P. LEFKOWITZ, Esq. May 19, 2008 PAGE 4 OF 6 B. Method of Compensation and Notification. During this same time period, you and others, including the former Solicitor General of the United States Kenneth Starr, took issue with the implementation of the methodology of compensation (hereinafter “the 2255 provision”)’ and the SDFL’s intention to notify the victims under 18 U.S.C. Section 3771 (you objected to victims being notified of time and place of Epstein’s state court sentencing hearing). In response, the SDFL offered, in my opinion, numerous and various reasonable modifications and accommodations which ultimately resulted in United States Attorney R. Alexander Acosta’s December 19, 2007 letter to Lilly Ann Sanchez. In that letter, the United States Attorney tried to eliminate all concerns which, quite frankly, the SDFL was not obligated to address, let alone consider. He proposed the following language regarding the 2255 provision: “Any person, who while a minor, was a victim of a violation of an offense enumerated in Title 18, United States Code, Section 2255, will have the same rights to proceed under Section 2255 as she would have had, if Mr. Epstein been tried federally and convicted of an enumerated offense. For purposes of implementing this paragraph, the United States shall provide Mr. Epstein’s attorneys with a list of individuals whom it was prepared to name in an Indictment as victims of an enumerated offense by Mr. Epstein. Any judicial authority interpreting this provision, including any authority determining which evidentiary burdens if any a plaintiff must meet, shall consider that it is the intent of the parties to place these identified victims in the same position as they would have been had Mr. Epstein been convicted at trial. No more; no less.” Regarding the issue of notice to the victims, USA Acosta proposed to notify them of the federal resolution as required by law; however, “[w]e will defer to the discretion of the State Attomey regarding whether he wishes to provide victims with notice of the state proceedings, although we will provide him with the information necessary to do so if he wishes.” As you know, _ you rejected these proposals as well. See December 26, 2007 correspondence from J ay Lefkowitz to USA Acosta. . ? Prior to any issues arising concerning the implementation of the 2255 provision, the SDFL unilaterally agreed to assign its responsibility to select the attorney representative for the alleged victims to an independent third-party. This was done to avoid even the appearance of favoritism in the selection of the attorney representative. As a result, on October 29, 2007, the parties executed an Addendum wherein it was mutually agreed that former United States District Court Judge Edward B: Davis would serve as the independent third-party. Judge Davis selected the venerable law firm of Podhurst and Josefsberg to represent the approximately 34 alleged identified victims. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012201
JAY P. LEFKOWITZ, ESQ. May 19, 2008 PAGE 5 OF 6 C. “Mr. Epstein Does Not Believe He Is Guilty Of The Federal Charges Enumerated Under Section 2255.” At our December 14, 2007 meeting at the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Miami, counsel for Epstein announced, inter alia, that it was a “profound injustice” to require Epstein to register as a sex offender and reiterated that no federal crime, especially 18 U.S.C. Section 2422(b), had been committed since the statute is only violated if a telephone or means of interstate commerce is used to do the persuading or inducing. This particular attack on this statute had been previously raised and thoroughly considered and rejected by the SDFL and CEOS prior to the execution of the Agreement. You also argued that the facts were inapplicable to the contemplated state statutes and that Epstein should not have been allowed to have been induced into the Agreement because the facts were not "what he understood them to be. It should be noted that the SDFL.has never provided you with any evidence supporting its investigation. This is not, and has never been, an Alford plea situation (see North Carolina v. Alford, 400 U.S. 25, 91 S.Ct. 160 (1970)). Ultimately, you requested an independent review. Subsequent to the above-mentioned meeting, the SDFL received three letters from you and/or Mr. Starr which expanded on some of the themes announced in the December 14” meeting. Essentially, you portrayed the SDFL as trying to coerce’a plea to unknown allegations and incoherent theories. On December 17, 2007, you decreed that Epstein’s conduct did not meet the requirements of solicitation of minors to engage in prostitution (FI. Stat. Section 796.03) one of the enumerated crimes Epstein had previously agreed to plead guilty to; that Epstein’s conduct does not require registration under Florida law; and the State Attorney’s Office does not believe the conduct is registrable. On December 21, 2007, you rejected the USA’s proposed resolution of the 2255 provision because you “strongly believe that the provable conduct of Mr. Epstein with respect to these individuals fails to satisfy the requisite elements of either 18 U.S.C. Section[s] 2422(b) ... or .-. 2423(b).” In your December 26, 2007 correspondence you stated that “we have reiterated in previous submissions that Mr. Epstein does not believe he is guilty of the federal charges enumerated under section 2255” and requiring “Mr. Epstein to in essence admit guilt, though he believes he did not commit the requisite offense.” As the SDFL has reiterated time and time again, it does not want, nor does it expect, Epstein " to plead guilty to a charge he does not believe he committed. As a result, we obliged your request for an independent de novo review of the investigation and facilitated such a review at the highest levels of the Department of Justice. It is our understanding that that independent review is now complete and a determination has been made that there are no impediments to a federal prosecution by the SDFL. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012202
JAY P. LEFKOWITz, Esq. May 19, 2008 PAGE 6 OF 6 Conclusion On February 25, 2008, I sent-you an e-mail setting forth a timetable for moving forward in the event that CEOS disagreed with your position. That time is now. As you know, my February 25" email stated that I would give you one week to comply with the terms and conditions of the Agreement, as modified by the USA’s December 19" letter to Ms. Sanchez. In light of the upcoming Memorial Day weekend, I have decided to extend that timetable to the close of business on Monday, June 2, 2008, which is a full two weeks. Sincerely, R. Alexander Acosta United States Attorney By: ae Jeffrey H: Sloman First Assistant United States Attorney ce: . R. Alexander Acosta United States Attorney A. Marie Villafana Assistant U.S. Attorney Karen Atkinson Assistant U.S. Attorney HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012203
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a ° “ é \ 11/05/2007 11:26 FAX 11/05/07 MON 10:05 FAX 305 530 6449 EXECUTIVE OFFICE U.S. Department of Justice United States Attorney Southern District of Florida UNITED STATES ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA 99 NE 4™ STREET MIAMI], FLORIDA 33132-2111 Jeffrey H, Sloman First Assistant U.S, Attorney 305 961 9299 Cyndee Campas Stalf Assistant 305 961 9461 305 530-6444 fax FACSIMILE TRANSMISSION COVER SHEET DATE: November 5, 2007 TO: Jay Lefkowitz, Esquire FAX NUMBER: (212) 446 4900 SUBJECT: Jeffrey Epstein NUMBER OF PAGES, INCLUDING THIS PACE: 3 Message/Comments: This facsimile contains FRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION intended only for the use of the Addressee(s) named above. Ifyuu are not the intended tecipicnt of this facsimile, or the employe or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended Técipleat, you are hereby notified that any disscrhination or coping of this facsimile is strintly prohibited. Ifyou have received this fhosimile in error, please immediatel y notify us by telephone and return the onyonal facsimile to us at the above address vig the U.S, Postal Service, Thank you, HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012205 001/003
002/003 11/05/2007 11:27 FAX a etapa p pata 11/05/07 MON 10:05 FAX $05 530 6440 EXECUTIVE OFFICE United States Attorney Southern District of Florida 99 NLC. 2" Street Miami, FL §3742.2132 (305) 963-9299 Fausimile: (308) 5306dd4 November 5, 2007 Jay P. Lefkowitz, Esq. Kirkland & Ellis LLP Citigroup Center 153 Bast 53rd Street New York, New York 10022-4675 Re: Jaffrey Epstein Dear Jay; Several things have come to my attention that Seem contrary to your client intending ta abide by his obligations uder the Non-Prosecution A ereement. As you know, that agreement requires our Office to inform you of potential breaches to give you and your client the opportunity to respond before an indictment is filed. At this tire, I do not believe that the agreement has been breached; however, I have sufficient concerns that need to be addressed, First, understand that private investigators working for Mr. Epstein have contacted victims to ask them whether any detectives or FBI agents have discussed a financial settlement with them, On one occasion, the private investigators told the parent of a victim that she should get an attorney for her daughter and she should do so right away. These actions are troublesome because the FRI agents legally are required to advise the victims of the resolution of the matter, which includes informing them that, as part of the resolution, that Mr, Epstein has agreed to pay damages in some circumstances. Furthetmore, Mr, Epstein well knows that we are in the process of selecting an attorney to represent the vietims and, but for the inordinate amount of time spent negotiating the Addendum, that attorney would already have been selected, Paragraph 7 of the Non-Prosecution Agreement explicitly provides that contact with the victims shall be through that counsel, Accordingly, please confirm that there will ba no further efforts to contact any victims until Judge Davis selects the attomey representative and that, thereafter, contact will be made only through that counsel. Second, the Non-Prosecution Agreement requires Mr, Epstein to use his best efforts to enter his guilty plea and to be sentenced not later than October 26, 2007, Despite this obligation, the Oifice agreed that My, Epstein could postpone this deadline to November, but reiterated that My. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012206 idoos
003/003 11/05/2007 11:27 FAX ; ; ; A1/05/707 MON 10:06 FAX 305 530 6440 EXECUTIVE OFFICE NOVEMBER 5, 2007 PAGE 2 OF 2 =pstein iad to begin his term of incarceration not later than January 4, 2008, Thave learned that the November hearing has been removed from the calendar and the next case disposition conference hag not been set until Jamnary 7, 2008. This delay is unacceptable, and, pursuant to your obligations, the Office requests that you confer with the State Attorney’s Office to try to find a date in November when the judge is available to conduct a simultaneous plea and sentencing. Ifyou cannot find such a date, please provide documentation of your efforts to abide by the terms of the Non-Prosecution Agreement, Third, there have been several press reports that Mr. Epstein no longer intends to enter a guilty plea. Normally 1 would not Pay any attention to such reports, but your recent correspondence attempting to restrict our Offlee from communicating with the State Attormey’s Office and the allusion to the imposition of sentences that vlearly fall outside the terms of the Non-Prosecution Agreement raises concer. Please confirm that Mr. Epstein intends to abide by hig agreement to plead guilty to the specified charges and to make a binding recommendation that the Court impose a sentence of 18 months of cuntinuous confinement in the county jail, Finally, the Non-Prosecution Agreenient requires that you provide the Office with copics of all proposed agreements with the State Attomey’s Office before Mr. Epstein signs any such aercements. To date, no such agreements have been received. Please provide me with copies ofany and all agreements with the State Attomey’s Office for our review. The Office also would like to have someone present at the change of plea and sentencing to monitor Mr. Epstcin's compliance with the terms of the Non-Prosecution Agreement, $0 please keep me informed of the date, time, and location of the hearing, Please provide me with a written response, adopted by Mr. Epstein, addressing these concerns and reiterating Mr, Epstein’s intention to comply with the terms ol the Non-Prosecution Agreement by November 8, 2007, Sincerely, R, Alexander Acosta United States Attomey Jeffrey Sloman First Assistant United States Attorney ee! R, Alexander Acosta, U.S. Attomey AUSA A. Marie Villafaia HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012207 Id) 063
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TOLL RECORDS OF SARAH KELLEN’S CALLS e MR. EPSTEIN DID NOT KNOW WHO WOULD BE COMING TO GIVE HIM A MASSAGE. Wednesday, April 27, 2005 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 Wednesday, April 27, 2005 Thursday, May 05, 2005 Thursday, May 05, 2005 Thursday, May 05, 2005 Thursday, May 05, 2005 Thursday, May 05, 2005 Friday, May 06, 2005 Friday, May 06, 2005 Friday, May 06, 2005 Friday, May 06, 2005 Friday, May 06, 2005 Friday, May 06, 2005 Friday, May 06, 2005 Friday, May 06, 2005 Saturday, May 07, 2005 Saturday, May 07, 2005 Sunday, May 08, 2005 Sunday, May 08, 2005 Sunday, May 08, 2005 Sunday, May 08, 2005 9:02AM 9:03AM 12:14PM 12:15PM 3:16PM 3:20PM 3:28PM 8:43PM 8:48PM 9:13PM 10:03PM 8:30AM 8:59AM 9:33AM 9:34AM 9:35AM 10:58AM 5:35PM 7:50PM 11:03AM 11:04AM 11:39AM 12:28PM 3:20PM 3:21PM * Mr. Rofrano is Mr. Epstein’s chiropractor. (561) 635- 3454 (561) 801- 3590 (561) 714- 0546 (561) 714- 0546 (561) 309- 0079 (561) 309- 0079 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 389- 6874 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 714- 0546 (561) 389- (561) 644- 3713 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 644- 3713 (561) 389- 6874 (561) 262- 6186 (561) 684- 6642 (561) 262- 6186 (561) 262- 6186 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012209
e MR. EPSTEIN DID NOT TARGET ANY ONE PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL, NOR DID HE TARGET MINORS. ALL OF THE CALLS BELOW WERE MADE TO WOMEN OVER THE AGE OF 18. Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Saturday, July 02, 2005 Sunday, July 03, 2005 Sunday, July 03, 2005 Sunday, July 03, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 Sunday, September 18, 2005 9:50AM 11:33AM 11:54AM 12:03PM 1:49PM 3:21PM 3:22PM 3:58PM 4:10PM 4:11PM 6:20PM 9:25PM 1:14PM 1:44PM 9:57PM 9:58AM 9:59AM 9:59AM 10:02AM 10:04AM 10:44AM 1:10PM 4:10PM 5:17PM 9:36PM 9:45PM (561) 389- 6874 (561) 635- 3454 (561) 856- 2974 (561) 635- 3454 (561) 324- 7996 (561) 324- 7996 (561) 635- 3454 (561) 324- 7996 (561) 262- 6186 (561) 635- 3454 (561) 302- 1844 (561) 389- 6874 (561) 324- 7996 (561) 574- (561) 714- 0546 (561) 324- 7996 (561) 635- 3454 (561) 801- 3590 (561) 662- 3098 (561) 302- 1844 (561) 389- 6874 (561) 389- 6874 (561) 324- 7996 (561) 714- 0546 (561) 714- 0546 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012210
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N 10 11 12 13 18 19 20 21 22 23 MP: Detective Michele Pagan KB: MP: Kathy Back |.D. #8059, reference case number 05-368. The time now, by my watch, is approximately 6 minutes past 2pm on 3/15/05. (Inaudible) High Ridge Family Center, Sable Palm School. > Just High Ridge Family Center. Okay, the High Ridge Family Center. Present also is...could you state your name please? MP: Spell your name please? MP: And your daie of birth? MP: And you are? Cathy Back, Family Therapist. Could you spell your name please? K-A-T-H-Y B-A-C-K, And you're her family therapist? Arm | correct? Yes. Okay. I'm here today anc | have stated briefly why {'m here is in reference to an incident that happened to a friend of yours, or a girl you knaw. Page tof 43 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012212 OS8
NS 10 11 12 12. 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 2S MP: MP: MP: ES EE MP: MP: i 0 0 MP: !'m not sure if she’s friend of yours or net, by the name im Do you Know what I'm talking about? Yes. Okay. ! hear your voice got very low al! of a sudden so if you don't mind.. Oh, okay. "ll even hold it. Okay. Can you tell me how you know, She’s my ex-boyfriend's cousin. And what's your ex-boyfriend's name? Zack is that his last name? J? Yes. What schcol does he go to? {inaudible} Summit Christian School. And you said he’s your ex-boyfriend. How long ago was that? | don't know. Like two months, two months and a half ago. Hew long did you go out with him? Three weeks...? Not tong? AndfP You met her through Zack? Yeah, | met her when { went to dinner at his grandmother's house. Okay. And do you know a: last name? No. |} don't. Do you know where she lives? Yes. She lives on ER streets away from me. Page Zof 43 OSn9 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012213
oe 14 18 16 18 19 20 ho RO NO res) MP: MP: Okay, (maudible) Okay. And tell me now what happened with a Okay, well, the third time of hanging out with i cause | was a cousin, well, fF And we were over there watching a movie and this guy called or actually it was a woman but it was for a guy. i. nd then we went, | don't know what day it was cause she picked me up. I’m pretty sure it was a Saturday or a Sunday. So she picked me up and we get in the car and she (inaudible) and then we left and we were still driving and then we went to his house and we were waiting in the kitchen and the old man came and he's like, hello, 'm...1 don't even know, | think it's Jeff. I'm Jeff and then we, I'm like I'm] And then she um went upstairs and | guess gave him money and we went back downstairs we weren't there, we were only there for tike 30 minutes and then we left and Page 3 of 43 09120 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012214
a 10 41 12 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: | MP: MP: (D then she went to go to Marshall's to go get some, a skirt and a purse but sh didn't get the skirt. She only ended up getting the purse and that was like a black purse. That's alt that happened? Um hm. Well, I’m hearing a lot more happened. Like what, | know, jike what went around the school? Like what went around the school. Tejl me what happened at school. In school, everybody was saying thai} got paid $300 with the, for the old man. That old guy. Cause he’s....ch, first of all, is that | gct fingered by the old man, then it was | had sex with the old man and then it was I'm just a prostitutc and | got paid $300. Who was spreading these rumors araund? Um, my, this girl, she used to be my friend] but | guess... Where would she get .... From Zack because | broke up with him. Well, that's what | think. | think when | broke up with him, he got very mad and told the gir! cause this girl, she hated mo because | wer out him and she likes him. Which girl was this? a ME hiked Zack? Yeah. ...went out with him so she started spreading these rumors? Page 4 of 43 05121 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012215
> 10 11 12 13 14 =" oO 17 19 20 21 22 23 p Cause | went out to the fair and she was supposed to go with him but, | guess, he didn’t like her and then we started talking and she got mad because | was talking to him. . MP: What does...can you lell me more aboullgP S| t don't really know that much. All! know is that she, the only thing | know about her is that her boyfriend, but then they broke up, like, she met him at a party. That's the only thing | know and that she has brown hair and like, | don’t really know about her. | went to her house Cnaudible) MP: Are you telling me?...and | want you te know something, okay? a Um hm. MP: Regardless of what has happened, okay? t'm being very honest. You're not in trouble for anything. | | I know. MP: Whether you did something with this man or net. Hmr.... MP: Whether you did something with this man. What I'm trying to do is fird out if this type of thing is going on and you're not the only one and | don't think you are the only one. | | [ don’t think so either cause the other kid Anthony {inaudible} he knows | Pee and |, cause he’s telling me, he’s like where do you knowlilend then | was like she’s my boyfriend's cousin. Oh that girl's bad and !'m like okay, too bad. MP: Did you do anything with this man? p No, we went upstairs and just got money and t don't know... Page 5o0f 43 05122 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012216
ho Cw 2 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 | | And there's like little circle chairs, that you can sit on. MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: Stools. Stools. And we were just sitting there waiting cause he wasn't there yet. Then he came inside after we were standing there about 5 minutes. Cause like, there was a gate and a bodyguard guy. When we opened the gate and knocked on the door, security, some guy, like a bodyguard kind of, type of guy. Same an walked up and he’s like, excuse me, what are you here for and we're here to see Jeff. And then he was okay, well come inside, Jeffll be here in like 5 minutes. And then we waited and he was like you can help yourself to a drink. And then he left anc then like 2 minutes after the guy left, Jeff and a lady walked in and they introduced themselves and we're like, hi, my name is and then she's tike IE inaudible) and then there's likc a walk in door thing, that you walk in like a cabinet thing, not a cabinet but the island thing (inaudible) and then the door would be right there. Okay. Yeah, (inaudible} So they walked away out of your sight? Lm hm. Well there was another girl there. | was never by myself. | don’t remember the girl's name but she's is friend. Okay. she was is... What does da you have an idea of what, why this woman, this assistant, would ask 7 | had anybody with her? Page 7 of 43 03123 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012217
10 1 12 13 14 15 16 7 18 19 20 21 22 23 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: 1 don't know but what you call, the lady, she really like (inaudible) | don’t know what's wrong. | mean when she walked in, she was like kind of like, | don’t know, but she was just like, um, she couldn't say anything about her, she was just first name and that's it and then she was just like right to the point.. She didn’t try to be friendly, you know. What do you mean she didn't try to be friendly? She wasn't like hi, I'm like, you know (inaudible) she was just like hi, I'm and | don’t remember her name but she said she was from | remember that. And your friend, ors friend stayed in the car? No, she was with us. When we walked in, and she sat, she was just there, she didn't do anything, she was with me. We were just right at the table, like we were sitting having a conversation for like two seconds. Ther came back downstairs and then she’s like thanks Jeff and then I'm like bye Jeff and then the other girl was like bye and then we left. Okay, did ce you what was going on upstairs? No. She just, | didn't ask because ike tne only reason | know the money was to go shopping. That's what (inaudible). Did she give you any money? Um hr. How much money? $300. What did you do with the $3007? | didn't spend it. And then | went to school and then my principal, cause | got Page 8 of 43 Q5124 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012218
as V7 18 19 20 21 22 23 MP: MP: MP: MP: into a fight with a girl, a. for saying that. Because she said that | was, had done all that with the old man to get that money and that’s nottrue. That's why | gol really angry and then we (inaudible) before that and then when | went to the office to (inaudible) the principal but actually she didn't say anything at first and then she was ike Sto her side of the story, can! see your purse and | was like go ahead and (inaudible) and I'm like yes and then my dad, my dad and the principal and my step-mom, they were all like um, why did you do that with an old man and who is the old man. I'l kill him, blah, blah, blah. And then I was like 1 didn't do anything! | didn't do anything! And they didn’t believe me. And | kind of got mad at and then the whole thing, that’s when | moved back to my mom's house because my dad thought | was a prostitute. And it was really... You know that just because something may have happened, that doesn’t make you a prostitute. I know. Do you? Yes. Okay. Do you want something to drink? No. Are you sure? Yeah, You know, !'ve been doing this for a long time and {’m not saying you're not telling me the truth, | think you're not telling me the whole truth about what happened. Okay? Matter of fact, | know you're not. And I know you might be a Page 9 of 43 05125 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012219
10 4 12 16 17 18 ag 29 2 22 23 MP: MP: KB: MP: MP: MP: little afraia looking on it... Okay, |... (inaudible) because they already came ta my dad’s house and they did something to my dad's tires and my dad almost died. Okay. Give me your hand. I’m here to help you. Look at me. i don’t want him to get hurt because he already almost killed him. i'm here to help you. Honey, I'm gonna get you some water. Okay? Okay. I'm here to help you, okay? I’m being honest, okay? I’m going to be very up front but | need you to be up front with me, okay? Okay. The only way | can help you is if you're honest with me, a hundred percent honest with me. Okay. Your counselor's not here. Tell me what happened. Now be honest about it. Okay. When | got there, that Jeff guy and the lady were there and then the lady wanted me to come upstairs and she’s like, she's talking to me and then she was putting out a table like for a massage. And then um, and then when and then she like put the covers on the table and they like, it comes to like (inaudible) whatever and she’s like, oh Jeff will be up in a second. And then the Jeff guy got there, she was like, she was like, take off your clothes and I didn’t know what to do because | was the only ane up there and so | just took off my shirt and | was in a bra and then he came in and had a towel over him and he was like no, take Page 10 af 43 05126 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012220
14 15 16 17 18 MP: MP: KB: off everything. So | just took off my pants and | was in my bra and underwear and he was like now you're gorina give me a massage. Then he went on the table and he's like here, the lady that was putting down the table, got out three lotions and put them on the table and then he picked up out which jotion. He was like, give me a massage with this lotion and then | was giving him a massage and he said you can get on my back. So he was on the table and | was straddling him on his back and giving him a massage and then he was turning around and then he whacked off and then he’s like oh yau have a really hot body and then | was like, that's disgusting, but | didn’t say that and then he’s like oh, excuse me for a second and he, | guess he went into the other room and he whacked off again and then he came back and said to me like, I’m done. And then he’s like, here’s your money and then | was going downstairs and he acted all nice and stuff, he’s like bye, nice to meet you, hope you can come back again and therlfis tike how did it go, what did you do. And ’m like, P'm like, he made me give him a massage end she’s like, fknow. And then we went to Marshall's and she got a purse and stuff cause she got paid too but |, she didn't do anything, | don't think because she was downstairs the whole time whije she knew | was up there. When she asked you to go with her... Um hm.... ..did you know...here’s your water. Thank you. (inaudible) Page 11 of 43 05127 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012221
—_s Lox) 10 14 12 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 | | Okay. Bye. (Inaudible) KB: Um, you know what (Inaudible), I'm gonna down to the dorm. She knows how to find me. MP: Okay. You feel better without her here? Yeah, because I'm embarrassed cause it’s really gross and she.... MP: Itis. MP: MP: MP: MP: ..might tell my mom. That's why I’m here. Okay? And | don't want my parents to find out. Well... Because I told them it wasn't true. Your parents love you. Okay? And their main thing is for you to be healthy. Okay? Not only physically but up here. And they know that right now your have a lot of issues and I think this is one of them. Because Jike you said, you thought it was gross. Right? Cause he’s like 45 years old. That's okay. Let's backtrack a bit. When you went with tell me the part where it was the truth. Okay? You were with Zack and i said \el’s go? Yeah. Okay, we were watching, | don'd remember the movie, but | know we were watching a movie and then we were gonna go and take a ride. Cause me and Zack were gonna get dropped off at the bowling alley so a (inaudible) she was saying about her boyfriend and cot a phone call and then she was Page 12 of 43 05128 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012222
co 10 11 wok ND 13 14 15 MP: talking to that lady and the lady was cm was actually saying [m coming, I’m coming, andi was like, can | bring somebody? And then _ was like, the fady was Jike what does she look like and she started describing me and then Zack turned around and said tojwho are you talking to. And then went like that and she was talking to the lady and like just describing me, what ] was wearing that night and then the lady was like okay, well Jeff is gonna want to talk to you and iiwas like, that’s fine. And then she got off the phone and then Zack said, | was like too, why are you describing me, who are you talking to. And she was ike do you want ta go with me tomorrow, I’m gonna go pick up some money from my boss’s house. And then she’s like. cause | get paid tomorrow and then I said okay. And Zack’s like no because | guess Zack knew what she did because Zack said no and he got really mad at me and said no, you're not going, you're not going with her. And then | was like, and she’s like, you know, but you just have to come with me and | was like cause the old man’s gonna give us both money so we can go shopping. Cause that's like my boss and he’s really nice. And | was like okay. And then Zack didn't say anything the rest of the night about it, he was just like really (inaudible) out there and mad. Not really mad but he was just like frustrated that | guess, would s2y that. And you didn’t know what was really going on. | | didn't know it was gonna, that | had to give him a massage and get naked. Me: What did you think was going to happen? | | That, like she just said, | don't know but | knew something was wrong, nobedy’'s Page 13 of 43 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012223 05129
_ 45 16 7 19 20 21 22 MP: MP: just gonna pay you money but | didn't think that !, | thought that was just ma: business whatever [iii do, just gonna go over there. And she told me that it was a rich guy and she was saying oh my God, he’s so rich, blah, blah, blah. And he has like a new Mercedes and all this stuff and she’s like explaining him. And then, what's it called...so actually we didn’t, we left but we didn’t end up going to the bowling alley. Her boyfriend went to his house really fast to go get HE something from his house and then he (inaudible) brought his car back to HE s house and we were just sitting there watching the movie but she was like, | are you sure you're going to go with me and | was like okay, I'll go with you. |’m like last time, I’m like, what are we gonna do ii we were going to. go shopping and we were discussing what we were going to buy with our money, cause she told me how much money | was gonna get, $300. And | was cool, | know whal I'm gonna buy. We're just like saying what we were gonna buy with the money. She said | need to go buy a purse and then the next day, actually | gave her my phone number that night so she could call, so she could pick me up. And when | went in the house that moming, she called me, she | Ee you still gonna come with me and !'m like yeah. So she’s like okay, get ready. !’m gonna be there in like 30 minutes and then she came to the house in like 30 minutes. And she had a friend with her. Do you remember the name of tne friend? | don't know her name but she was like really dark, kind of like a Spanish girl. | don't (inaudible)... Darker than me? Page 14 0f 43 05130 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012224
ie 16 17 18 419 20 21 22 MP: MP: MA truck. And she had like short hair and she had like a styled hair, like a cute little style. | don't remember her name. i talked to her but | didn’t remember her name cause (inaudible) right after | got in the car. And then all the way there, we were just fistening to music and singing and stuff and like just Jaughing and stuff. And she told me the girl about her boyfriend and stuff (inaudible). So you're driving, So BB picks you up. Do you remember what day it was? No but | know it was a Sunday because | told my dad, Dad can { please go on Sunday with Haley to go shopping and my dad goes where are you guys going shopping because he didn’t know and he said no at first and | was like Dad, that’s, you know Zack’s cousin and then my dad says okay but | have to meet her. So then [called me afterward and then she’s like I'm gonna need $10 for gas and she was like can your dad give me $10? And then! was like sure but! didn’t ask my dad, | just (inaudible) $10. And then my dad was. okay and my dad called me, he's like (inaudible) I'm not gonna be able to give you money. So then | was really mad but then | didn't tell out my dad ended up {inaudibie) (inaudible) wher was pulling up, my dad ended up pulling up sol and my dad saw each other. And] was like, oh my God, your dad is so hot. And then | said yeah, right. Started laughing about it. And then my dad gave Haley $10 for the gas. So you got in the car. What kind of car did she drive? Page 15 0f 43 03131 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012225
10 11 12 13 22 23 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: What color? i don't remember but | think it was a bluish color. { think so. So she drove. Yeah, she drove. ‘She drove? Yeah and | was in the passenger seat and there was like a whole bunch of junk back behind her and | was sitting next to it, like (inaudible) or stuff for school. And was there....like but | don’t know but it took a pretty long time to get — And you know where, like, the rich people are, what is that street? Where the Kravis Center is but further than that. Like towards the beach more. That way. Yeah, fcsmerrdls the beach. Yeah. That way. And that’s where, yeah, that’s like where he lives but when she pulled into, | know for a fact it’s a pink house, | remember the pink house and then he had an Escalade in his driveway and then a Mercedes in his garage. | remember that much. Okay. Do you remember... so you took the Kravis way or did you.... | don't remember where we... You don't remember which way... | just remember the building. It was near the ocean? Yeah. | know....cause one day when | was with my frien i, that's exactly where we went, like around that area, not the CityPlace area but you know, it kind of looks like that area. Like where the Kravis Center was and | Page 16 of 43 05132 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012226
10 11 12 13 14 15 16 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: remember....that’s how | remember. Do you remember seeing the beach and the ocean? No but we went over that bridge where the ocean was and then the bridge went over. Okay. So you definitely went over the bridge. Yeah. Went over a bridge. And it was up and we had wait for it to go down. So we were there for like 5 minutes. That was time you were wit Yes. Okay. And then the house, you said, you described it as pink? It was like a, it was a two story house and then it was like a pinkish color, pinkish pink color. Were there gates or samething in front? Well, it wasn't a gate but, the back door had a gate to it and it was a white gate and | | just like she knew that you had to open it and it wasn'tlocked so we just opened it and there were three, two or three steps and you just walk up and then he had a pool and it had, like the floor, the floor was like a hard something, it wasn't concrete, tt was squares of !tke concrete, but they were like... Like tile, you mean? It was like a coral concrete, you know like.. And then the pool was there and the house was there, | guess it was Jike a security house because a man that was with the securily came out and he was like whal are you guys here for, cause you're knocking on the door and thenlsaid we're here to see Jeff and Page 17 of 43 05133 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012227
10 11 13 i4 15 16 17 18 20 21 22 23 MP: MP: MP: | | MP: MP: MP: MIP: MP: then... What did that man say? He was like oh, okay and she’s like, she smiles and then he let her in (inaudib!e) but he opened the door and then we went in and then {inaudibie) and the counter, here’s the door when you walk in and there’s a (inaudible) refrigerator and then the window, a glass sliding window looks out at the pool. Okay. And then like the cabinet, | mean not the cabinet, the island, was like here and then there's like a cabinet over there and the door was right here. Okay, just for the tape purposes, the way that you described it, okay? Is you walk in and on the left hand side? Um hm. Cause you motioned right now, who's there? (inaudibie) And then when you walked in, on the left hand side. what did you see? Like if | was getting out of the doorway? Um hm. Okay. Well, there's a door. If you looked straight, it would be straight from you but a little towards the right. Okay. And... It wasn’t a door, door. It was just a doorway (inaudible) Okay. No, wait, maybe it, | don't know, cause it was open, but there could have been Page 18 of 43 05134 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012228
OS cr 10 11 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 oe = = ie Es Ba EF MP: door, but it was open so | didn't really pay attention. But | know it was a doorway going up. Okay. So new you're in that kitchen area. Right? Um hm. The three of you? Yes. Where did you park the car? in his little driveway area. So you're in the kitchen area. What happens next? We were waiting there. We were talking, just about how cool the house was. I’m like ch my gosh, I’ve never been in a house like this. And then the lady and the man came in, Jeff. I'm pretty sure...like 90% positive. And he walked in, he was like in a t-shirt and pants, not pants but you know, like maybe tike kind of dressy. Do you know what | mean? Um him. GER anc then he’s like okay, well, then follow my, | don’t remember the lady's name but she’s, he said follow her (the name) upstairs. So she’s like, come on oe and then we walked upstairs and | thought...... Page 19 of 43 05135 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012229
2 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 MP: MP: MP: By yourself? Yes, but | thought that i cause she said she was gonna get paid, so | though and the girl was gonna get paid in like, you know, like private, privacy and cause it was just him and her and the other giri in the kitchen. And so | went upstairs and as | was walking upstairs, there was a picture of him in like a different country and then I'm like that's really cool and the lady said isn’t it and she was just walking upstairs and there was like a door and then, it was like to a little (inaudible) this big and it had a couch and a couch and it was like another watkway towards that way. And then walked towards, like keep walking forward and then to my right and there was a bedroom and then we turned right again and there was a big bathroom, a big...it was humongous. And the bathroom. It wasn't like a bathroom, bathroom, it was like a sitting area with a shower there. Humongous shower. Like a jillion people could be in that shower. And then it was humongous. And there was like a door here and you opened it and there was like a little desk with paper and pads and stuff. And | don’t know (inaudible) like sitting on the couch right here, like against my... there’s big long couch. And it was pink and green. Hot pink and green. And there..... The room or the sofa? The sofa. Okay. And there’s a table with a phone on it. And um, during when | was giving him a massage, he made a phone call but ! don’t remember whether he just said, like he said four words and then hung up. Yeah, | don't remember. And he made a Page 20 of 43 03136 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012230
om, 13 14 15 16 VF 18 19 20 21 22 MP: MP: MP: By yourself? Yes, but | thought that J cause she said she was gonna get paid, so | thought and the gir was gonna get paid in like, you know, like private, privacy and cause it was just him and her and the other girl in the kitchen. And so | went upstairs and as | was walking upstairs, there was a picture of him in like a different country and then I'm like that’s really cool and the lady said isn’t it and she was just walking upstairs and there was like a door and then, it was like to a little (inaudible) this big and it had a couch and a couch and it was like another walkway towards that way. And then walked towards, like keep walking forward and then to my right and there was a bedroom and then we turned right again and there was a big bathroom, a big...it was humongous. And the bathroom. It wasn't like a bathroom, bathroom, it was like a sitting area with a shower there. Humongous shower, Like a jilllon people could be in that shower. And then it was humongous. And there was like a door here and you opened it and there was like a little desk with paper and pads and stuff. And | don’t Know (inaudible) like sitting 0 the couch right here, like against my... there’s big long couch. And it was pink and green. Hot pink and green. And there..... The room or the sofa? The sofa. Okay. And there’s a table with a phone on it. And um, during when | was giving him a massage, he made a phone call but | don’t remember whether he just said, like he said four words and then hung up. Yeah, ! don’t remember. And he made a Page 20 of 43 05137 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012231
an od 19 20 21 MP: MP: phone call and then he put the table back where it was (inaudible). And then.... But the lady...so you're upstairs and you're sitting down and the lady's there. What is she doing? Oh, she's, well, there’s a closet right here, with a table in it. Like the massage table... Near the sofas? Yes. Like a door on each side and um, towards the door, there's a door for the table. She took that out and there's like a safe and then like she put it in the middle. it's this way, like long ways. And then she put like put the cloth over it but she's looking around the room, | guess just to took, like she was remembering something, t guess, like where the lotion was. And there are pictures of like, naked girls on the wall and there was like, there was like one big mural of naked girls’ like, bults. And then, towards the door, there was like a cabinet here, like a built in thing, like a {inaudible} and um, there’s drawers in it and she opened the last drawer and there was a whole bunch of lotions, like millions and millions of kinds of totions. And she picked out three kinds of lotions ard put them on like an armoire kind of thing with a mirror. And she set it there. And then after, she told me, sit here for 5 minutes. Like, just sit there. And eventually he came in and he was like, hi i'm Jeff and I'm like hi, ' i And he's like, I'll be right back, you can take off your clothes. And then he left. And there's a bedroom out there and he just went out there and | don't know but there’s like, pictures out there, | think, | don’t remember, he took off his clothes and put a towel over himself. But | don’t know if there was a towel thing back Page 21 of 43 05138 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012232
“a 10 14 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: there cause it’s like, | don’t remember... Did he undress in front of you? No, he didn’t. But he took off his towel in front of me. Okay. So he came back in.... Yeah, he came back into the room and he was.... Were you dressed? i was in a bra and he said no, | meant get naked. And then | was, | went like that and he was you can keep your bra and underwear on and but get down to your bra and underwear so | took off my pants. Cause he was real stern about it, like Take Off Your Pants. And then | just took aff my pants and then he laid down on ihe table but like, after he was laying on the table, he took off the towel just enough, you know, like you could see... Did you see him naked? Yes | did. And it was disgusting. | don't mean to... | Know maybe it’s disgusting but can you describe him? Did he have any marks, tattoos, was he hairy? Yes, he was really very hairy on his chest and on his back and towards...okay | don’t mean to sound gross but... No, say it the way you would if you were speaking to one of your best friends. Okay. (inaudible) Okay. He was laying on his belly side so his butt was like, up. And there was like, he had a very hairy back all the way to here and then there was just like a Page 22 af 43 05139 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012233
14 15 16 17 19 20 21 22 23 a: se MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: VIP: MP: hairy butt line going down to his butt. Okay. So gross. Okay, and then...f{inaudible) Did you see the front of him? Yeah. Cause when he got off the table, he like turned this way so everything showed towards me and then he got off and then he went and whacked off and then he came back in. But he was very hairy on his chest area and | just looked for like one second and it was very, very disgusting. Okay. That's all ! have to say about that. Do you know what it means....and |] nave to ask only because there are some people that don’'t.....to be circumcised? No. I don't, } don't really know... but | think he was on steroids because he was a built guy and his weinie was very tiny. His wee wee was very tiny. Yes. And when you mean wee wee, you mean what? His penis. Yes, his penis. Okay. Yes, his penis. People call it different things. Alright. | just wanted to make sure we know. Okay. He laid down, he took off his towel and he laid down. He laid down on the ..... Did he take his towel completely off or just open it so... Page 23 of 43 05140 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012234
so™ 10 4 12 13 14 16 17 18 MP: MP: MP: No, completely off. Okay. Where did he put the towel? On the floor. Right like, the table underneath. Okay. So he {aid down, took the towel off. What happened next? And then he's like, get the lotion. So | grabbed the lotion. Which, | had to walk almost naked, but | was in like a thong so yeah, my butt was showing and he, the table is like, | mean the sink was, you know, the lotions were right there and | was over here and he was like go get the lotions just so | could walk past him with my butt showing to go get the lotions. So | got the lotions and he’s like, he’s like this Iotion and then | took that lotion and he’s like squirt it on your hands and then massage clockwise on my back cause | didn't know how to do it? and then he’s like. telling me where he would like the massage, here and here, the right to the left, down more, up more. So | was just massaging and he turned and started having a conversation, oh what happened ol and I'm like, (inaudible) my ex-boyfriend (inaudible) what’s your boyfriend's name. Zack. And he was kind of questioning me and then he said what, he’s like, could you stop? !need to go. And i just stopped and I'm like okay. And he got off the table. He put the towel over him. He bent down and got the towel and then he left the room and you could hear him, like, you know, you could obviously tell what he was doing, just like... idon't..... !wor't look at you but do what he was doing, what you heard. | know it's kind of embarrassing but... | He was making like sex noises. You know, like..... | don't.. They were very Page 24 of 43 Ool41 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012235
MP: Me: MP: MP; MP: MP: MP: strange noises. That's all] can say. Okay. | don’t know how to describe them, they were very strange. Can you imitate them? | don’t, | don’t want to make a foot out of myself. You won't. You're not making a fool. You know, it might say it's sex noises. He may say | was singing. Okay. He was liké.... | won't look at you, go ahead. He was \ike ogoohhhh, ocohhh. Okay, okay, he’s making groaning noises. Yes, groaning noises, that’s it. Okay. That was really embarrassing. It really was. He was making those kinds of noises and then he walked back into the room, took off his towel again and laid back on the thing and then he wanted the same kind of massage but he was like oh use your {inaucibie) a little bit more. You were massaging his back? Yeah. And then he, he’s like, could you, turn over for a second.. (inaudible) {inaudible) go back out of the room. He turned over and he said okay, please massage my boobs. And then | was massaging his boobs and he's like, he's like, oh, like as | was doing it, as | was massaging, he was making the same noises again like, oh my God, it’s so embarrassing to do this. He was like... | won't look, He was going like ooohhh, making those noises. And like 5 minutes after that, Page 25 of 43 05142 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012236
17 18 19 20 21 22 23 and then he turned back around and he just started touching himself and | think the massage was like a half an hour but cause | don’t know, the time | think was a half an hour to 45 minutes and then! was done. And then he, | think he has like a safe somewhere because around us he didn’t have his wallet or something because right when we got out the door, he left to go put the towel on again and he put the towel on again and went out of the room and he goes you can put your clothes back on. So | put my clothes back on and he walked right out there, like two seconds and then came back like within two seconds. And he’s like here's your money. And then he gave me $300 in hundred dollar bills and they were like brand new because they only had like one crease in them and that’s when they're folded in half. And he said thank you for your time. And then he left. And he said you can see your way out and | was just walking and | got lost cause there’s so many different rooms and j got lost and | walked back downstairs and | ERS like just smiling and giggling, like, | guess it was what the lady was saying and then she looked at me and she looked back at the lady and then she’s like, the iady’s like oh, bye fl cause it was time to go cause | guess because | was done. And then, then we left the same way we came in and then I's like oh my gosh, Wcoes how did you like it. Like how much did he give you, how much did he pay you. And |’m like $300. And I was kind ef tike $300, Cause the girl was like this. She was looking at me really weird. The other girl that was with her. She's tike really quiet though. And then she just looked at me really weird and she’s like trying to gaze into my eyeballs. And ihen we went in the car and when we got in the car, Bs like, let me see what Page 26 of 43 05143 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012237
ae ™ F P \ 40 12 13 44 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 MP: MP: MP: MP: ne gave you. And then | showed her my $300 and she’s like, we're going to Marshalls. And then, give me back my money and | put it in my back pocket. And then she was trying to get me to describe what happened so } told her what happened. And she’s like, you could do this every Saturday. He's is like so rich. And | was just kind of like, yeah, we could. And then, she put back on the music. And then, when we were leaving, the lady was walking outside and | (inaudible) one of the cars really fast but she was just going to the passenger seat and she opened the door and then closed it. What cid fi s friend say? Did she say anything about ii? She was just like interested in what happened, like when we were talking, we're like into the canversation and then she was kind of like giggling and laughing. like, | think, | wouldn't say, | mean, | don't know if (inaudible) or not but she wasn't acting surprised, you know, like giggling. She was just of like giggling and Jaughing along with And tnerfigces um, and then when | was giving the guy the massage, he goes, | know BB she's been working with me for a long time and then when | came back downstairs, goes, you only paid me $200. So.... He liked you better. i don't know. Well, after you left, where did you go? Marshalls or to TJ Maxx, one of those two. TJ Maxx or Marshalls. And she bought a black purse. Okay. Did you seeljJafter that again? Page 27 of 43 05144 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012238
—_ 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 i Um, | don't think so because that's when | got grounded. And then that's when | MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: got in trouble with the fight. So after that, I'm pretty sure | didn’t. Most likely. Did you ever speak to her again? No, because | got my ceil phone taken away. Okay. So you haven't see TE since the day you went to Jeff's house. Correct. Are you sure? Yeah. I’m 100 percent sure. How do you know she....now tell me what happened with your dad. Okay. Because my dad, | didn't know about until my sister told me when she came here. But my sister, on a Thursday, was coming here. And wait, Wednesday night, my dad said that he heard the dog barking and my dog is inside. So he’s barking and he’s outside, like barking towards outside and then my dad is like shut up cause he forgets the dog's name and the dog wouldn't be quiet. So he’s like, I'm taking the dog outside. And then my dad took the dog outside and the dog was way in towards my dad's truck, like my dad thought he was attacking the animals but my dad, a person, a boy, ! don’t know for a fact but | know in my heart its Zack. Because Zack got really mad over the whole situation. Did you tell Zack what happened? Yeah. And that’s when, he punched a wall and he like my face was right there and he punched the wall, like my face was right there and he punched the wall right next to my face. And he started getting all upset and crying and calling Page 28 of 43 05145 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012239
on™ ~~ 10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 MP: MP: | | how could you do this? Biah, blah, blah. And then['s like, okay, | won't do it again. And like she just kind of like hung up and he was like | hate her, | hate her and then | hate you too. And | was like okay and we broke up and then | think (inaudible) on the computer and | think he told PE wat happened and she turned it into an extraordinary, like story so at school so | would look like, you know, like I'm the bad persan, {ike ('m a slut, I'm a whore or something and she’s going around school saying all this stuff and then so my parents came, cause that's when | got mad at her and told her to stop talking but she wouldn't stop talking about it. So | just gotin a fight with her, like a fist fight at school. And | got suspended and so did she but she only got suspended for one day because | started the fight. So | got in trouble more. And my dad got really mad and he grounded me for it, because he found the $300 in my walict and then my dad was like, you're grounded, you're grounded forever and he's ail freaking out, how could you do this, blah, blah. The school said you did. And um, | didn't tell the schoof how, | told them | got it from my job, cause | worked at Chick Filet but! quit. So | said | (inaudible) but nobody believed me so | was just like believe what you want. Cause | didn't want to tell the principal or my parents. Well, | think that the best thing that you're doing is that you're being honest. Okay? Um hm. You already know that they have a pretty good idea what happened. Okay? | didn’t even know there was like an investigation. Page 29 of 43 05146 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012240
we’ -_~ 10 11 13 14 15 21 22 23 MP: Well, that’s... | | I just knew. MP: Well, this is why. What's happening is that | was made aware of this situation... Fon my school? MP: MP: MP: I'm not gonna Say, okay? | was made aware of this situation. And they look at it like you were taken advantage of. Not that you did anything wrong, okay? Even though you went there willingly. Even though you went there willingly, you were still taken advantage of. Okay? Because you were pul into a pasition that you felt you had no choice. Once you were there, before when you were telling me about how Jeff told you to take off your clothes? You took your pointer and you said he was really stern and you banged your leg, you put the pointer on your leg when you said that. How did you feel when he told you to fake your clothes off? 1 don't know. I didn’t know what else to do because | was the only person up there and he’s like 45 years old and he has like big muscles, because, | don't know, but I'm pretty sure 45 years ald and big muscles, body builder. Okay. So | just felt intimidated because he’s guy, first of all, and ’'m a girl and | know that JI was all the way downstairs with the lady and what was [boing to do to help me ali the way upstairs so | just did it. Okay. Now, there's one way I’m a little confused at because you said that, and I'm using your words okay, that he whacked off twice. You said before that he whacked off twice. When did he do thar? P| In between giving him a massage, like when | was giving him a massage, he was Page 30 of 43 05147 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012241
13 14 15 13 19 20 22 23 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: | MP: MP: got, he was like, excuse me for a minute and he just left the room. Okay, so that’s once. When was the other time? Like during the thing, like when | was massaging his boobs. When you..okay, when you were massaging his boobs, was his back flat on the table? How was he positioned? Weil, he was at first and then when he started to whack off, he got like, his back went off the table, kind of like leaning... Okay, where were you standing? Iwas standing up. | was not on him. | was standing up (inaudible) and | was like....he was towards, okay, he was on the table. I’m right here and he’s leaning that way. Okay. like (inaudible) cause | guess, | don’t know, but... and he was like, my face, it got hard to see what was going on because of how low [| was and he just kind of moved his head the other way and he was like, wants.... Okay, but just now, when you're saying that, you moved your hand. Did you see him whacking off? Yes. | saw him whacking off. Okay. That's what | need to know. Cause you said he whacked off twice. Um hm. So he whacked off in front of you? Um hm. And you saw his hand doing or you saw his eyes, what was going on? Page 31 of 43 05148 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012242
10 11 42 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: Okay. i saw his face, facial expressions and noises. Okay. What else did you see? | just saw him... You keep moving your hand so...in other words, he took his hand and what was he doing with his hand? i don’t know how to explain it. He was just whacking off. Okay, describe...don’l.... Okay, sorry, Ne put his hand on his penis and he put if up and down and he was like making facial noises, | mean facial expressions and making noises. So you saw him doing that, he did that in front of you? Yes. Do you know what it means when someone ejaculates? It means they're horny? No, what it means is that once they, while they're whacking off and I’m using your words, okay. Another word for that is masturbating. Okay? Yes. Do you know what it means to masturbate? A boy does it? i don't know why they do it or | know why they do it but ] don’t know what it does... Okay. To them. In other words, fluid comes out of their... Oh, okay. Page 32 of 43 05149 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012243
10 41 12 16 V7 18 19 20 24 22 MP: MP: Okay? |'m just being very... I'm gonna tell you because | think... 1 know that part. Okay. So fluid comes out and that’s ejaculating. And it’s called semen. So while he was whacking off, okay, did you see any fluid come out? oe It was, yes, because he had to take the towel and wipe his thing before he got off MP: MP: MP: MP: MIP: the table again to go get the $300. Okay. He took the towel and like... And then, okay, like he took the towel to wipe himself and then like as he was getting off and then this way instead of this way, this way, like that. Okay. Since you've seen his penis, was there anything distinctive about it? Like did he have a mole on it? No, it was very small. Very small, that’s fine. Did you notice...you said he was very hairy on his chest. Did he have any tattoos? Uh uh, not that | saw. Did he have any scars? No, but he had freckles somewhere becausc he was huge. You're pointing at the chest area. Yeah, some freckies. Like a mole or a freckle? A freckle. Okay. Can you tell me what he looks like? Page 33 of 43 Q5150 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012244
2s 10 11 12 13 14 18 19 20 21 22 a a) ma He had like nat white hair but itwas, not white but it, you know, it was kind of like, like me. twas like.... | don't know. MP: He was going gray. } | Yes. He was going gray. And he had... MP: What color hair did he have before? Blonde, brown? | No. MP: You were describing Jeff to me, with the freckle and he was going gray and what else? a Um, like he, like his skin color is like, when | saw him, when you have a sunburn, but its like when you have it a couple of days and it’s turning into a tan. It was tike a reddish tannish color. And he had like a long face and that's about all | can remember and he had a white t shirt when he first came in. Okay. | don't really remember... Did he have any king of like jewelry on his body that you noticed? | didn't, | don’t remember. Okay. Do you remember what color eyes he had? Nope. Did he have any facial hair, like a mustache? Or a goatee or anything? Te ee U v 0 A Hmm....No but his eyebrows were really thick and they were bushy, like everywhere. Page 34 of 43 Qo151 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012245
oo™. 10 44 12 13 7 18 19 20 21 22 23 MP: on v MP: Okay. You Said that you straddled him. Um hr. What do you mean by that’? When..he was on his stomach and | was giving him a massage, like | was, you know where, like, on...on, like the butt? And then like, | was sitting on his butt but a litte bit above his butt. And J, it was, | was butt naked and he was butt naked and... Okay. ..my butt was, my butt cheeks were on the top of his butt and the reat little of his back. MP: MP: Okay. Now, did he ask you to get on top of him? Um hm. Or did you do that on your own? No, he’s like..because al first, | was giving him a massage like you know, standing up. And he, then he’s like it would be fee! more comfortable if you got on my back. Could you please do that....and then | did that. Like, | did, um, like, Page 35 af 43 05152 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012246
10 14 12 13 14 16 V7 13 19 20 21 MP: MP: CE 0 a MP: MP: MP: | wasn't, at first I didn't want to sit on his hairy you know, bult. So it was Kind of like, you know, like, pushing my legs on the table so like | could kind of sit up and he was like could you please just put all...like sit on me, pul all your body weight onme. And then | went, | was just kind of like kind of think | did when | was actually sitting on htm, | didn’t realize what it was and then like, | got grossed out and as tm going down, kind of like popped up again. Cause it was gross. Okay. He never tried to touch you? Besides like, you know, well, what do you mean by touching, like sexually touching me? No, did fe try to touch you or... He put his hand on my back when he was whacking off or masturbating. Like, he was just like.... You keep, like motioning, like smacking. No... What do you.... Like, when you're leaning on something, putting your force on it? He was going like that, fike...pulling, not, you know, like.... Can you show me what you mean? Okay. He was..... Let's say mon my back. Where would you be, I'm Jeff, where would you be standing? I'm right here. | was like, | was like sitting right here. Okay. Page 36 of 43 05153 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012247
ooo, ao 10 11 42 13 15 16 17 18 20 21 23 Okay and when he backed up. Which way, this way? Yeah. Okay, I’m going to my left. | All the way around til your back’s on the table. MP: MP: ai U Okay. I’m facing you. And then yourre, your face is a little bit that way... My right. Okay. And (inaudible) towards, like on his knees, kind of... Okay, I’m hunched over a little bit. And I'm over here. And I"m stilt giving you a massage and everything but this hand is around me and (inaudible) Okay. My left hand would be...so is my left hand around your shoulders? No, under my arm while I'm going like that... Okay. So I’m holding you like around by the waist. Um hm. And that hand was on his... His right hand. Yes. Okay. It just gives me a better picture of trying to understand, that’s why. Um hm. And | appreciate you doing that. | don't mean to make you feel uncomfortable. Do you feel uncomfonable? No. Page 37 of 43 05154 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012248
15 16 17 18 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: a U MP: Okay. After everything was done, okay, did he watch you get dressed? No. Cause | was getting dressed while he was out there getting the $300. | guess that’s what he was doing. That’s the only thing he came back in with. He was stillin a towel and stuff. In the room, at all, do you think...and | don't know if there is or not, but do you think there is anything in there that may have recorded what you did? Oh my gesh.... A video camera... Oh my gosh. | didn’t think about that. There was lots of places there could have been one because there's pictures, that could have been, | don’t know.... When he walked out... the reason why | ask is because he walked out once and then came back in, right? Yes. So it could be just so he could whack off. | was just curious. | don't know if there is or not. if there was, | did not know about it. Okay. So you get dressed, you go downstairs. Where is that woman again? Downstairs talking to i and the other girl. Okay. They were having a conversation. Page 38 of 43 05155 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012249
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 MP: So what other things did he ask you? Um, how | know what school | went to. MP: Did you tell him what school you went to? Yeah but i told him Wellington. {didn’t tell him Royal Palm. MP: Okay. What else did you talk about? BM, that’s about it. And he was kind of asking me like how | knevE is PE vice to me and then he told me how he knew and he was like, | was kind of like, how do you know Cause | brought up the conversation. He said well | know Haley because she’s been working for me for a long time. And Page 39 of 43 05156 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012250
co 10 14 12 14 15 16 17 16 1 20 21 MP: MP: MP: MP: then like, | kind of, you kind of get the picture, working for you and hello, I'm sitting there giving him a back massage. So] kind of figured it oul. He never said that, he just... Yes.. ..said that she worked for him. Yeah but don'’t...on our way back home, that, like, doesn’t make any sense if she didn't do that because why would iia be doing {inaudibte) for almost the same amount of money as me. Right. Well, why couldn't he pay her that day? } doen't know, because that’s a good question. Cause she didn't, as far as | know, but | don't know but I'm pretty sure she didn’t tell me. she didn't think. She was just downstairs having a conversation. And | think that when | went up to the lady, he paid her because like, you Know, so because, he paid her while | went upstairs and when | went downstairs, she was siill talking to the lady still and she gces, when we were in the kitchen waiting, the ald man to come to the house still, she said, oh the chef is so hot, he works here and she was like, and she’s like he’s so hot, you know, saying his face and then the other girl (inaudible) because when we saw the chef come in, he was old, toc. He was like... So J likes older guys. a Must like it. MP: Okay. So you left and that was the last time you see him. MM Yes and that’s the last time | went... MP: Has Jeff ever tried to call you? Page 40 of 43 05157 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012251
por ty 10 14 12 13 14 18 19 20 21 22 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: Nope, And... Did you leave a phone number? Yeah. Actually | did. Cause when | was leaving, he goes um, please leave your phone number so can keep in touch with you because she doesn't have your phone number. So I didn’t, | just gave him my cell phone number. | didn’t give him my house number, | gave him my ceil phone number. And how long ago was this? Oh my gosh, | couldn't tell you the date but....it was about maybe, oh my gosh, a month and a haif ago. | don’t really know.. In February? Because we're in March right now. Either ihe very beginning of February or the end of January. | couldn't tell you... How jong after did you get into that fight with a: Um, like a week, cause... You got into a fight with [Jon the 9". Okay, so yes, it was about a week after....or before. Okay. And who else besides Zack dic you tell what happened? That's it. Besides of course. Zack and J Do you think i has brought anybody else that you know of? No, but she wanted me to bring my sister but that same day was going to her Page 41 of 43 05158 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012252
10 41 MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: MP: boyfrienc’s house. Okay. And, when | was in that guy's room, there was a like, where the drawers of lotion were, ihere’s like a shelf of pictures and he had so many pictures of girls about 16, 17, around that age, 17 or 18. And they were like on the walls and most of....alt the girls were topless or just plain naked. And they were in positions or they were just standing up. Okay. Looking at pictures. Okay. Well, | have to ask you. Do you know the difference between....and you're a grown woman, so I'm asking you. You're pretty mature for your age. Okay? Do you know the difference between right and wrong? Yes. Do you know the difference between the truth and a lie? yes. Can you tell me what a lie would be? Um, not saying the truth. Okay. So if | tell you you are wearing a biue sweater right now..... | could tell you you're lying. Why? Because I’m wearing a pink one. You gotit. ts everything you've to'd me the truth? Yes. Page 42 cf 43 05159 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012253
11 12 13 44 2: 23 MP: Are you lying about anything? No. /'ll swear on the bible. Okay. Swearing to God, that’s good enough for me. | swear to God. Okay. Is there anything else you'd like to talk to me about? No, because thal’s about....nothing else about the whale thing. At any time, did he touch you..... At no time... Besides puiting his hands... Besides that, no times did he touch me. And just so | can be sure, you saw him whacking off once. Yes, | saw him. Okay. And as far as you think..... i think, | know, well, | couldn't say f know, but it’s the same noises were being made when he was (inaudible). And that’s it. | thank you very much. This will conclude the interview. The time now by my watch is approximately 3:05. Page 43 of 43 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012254
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THR STATE OF FLORIDA, COUNTY OF PALM BEACH. JEFFREY EPSTEIN. / SWORN STATEMENT OF Friday, March 21, 2008 12:05 p.m. - 12:15 p.m. Avenue South Suite 2400 West Palm Beach, Florida 33401 250 Australian Reported By: Judith F. Consor, FPR State of Florida Notary Public, Consor & Associates Reporting and Transcription West Palm Beach Office Phone - 561.682.0905 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012256
Re APPEARANCES: On behalf of the Defendant: JACK A. GOLDBERGBER, ESQ. ATTERBURY, GOLDBERGER & WEISS, P.A. 250 AUSTRALIAN AVENUE SOUTH SUITE 1400 WEST PALM BEACH, FLORIDA 33401 561.659.8300 ALSO PRESENT LILLY ANN SANCHEZ, ESO. FOWLER WHITE, ATTORNEYS AT LAW rete ae No Se ore aOsN TTI SERIE SSS TTT ESTO TENT AO Tea HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012257
nsor & Associates FEU Reporting and Trenscziption, inc. Page 3 Statement taken before Judith F, Consor, if Court Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of [ Florida at Large, in the above cause. Thereupon, having been first duly sworn or affirmed, was examined and stated as follows: THE WITNESS: Yes, ma'am. BY MR. GOLDBERGER: 0. Jennifer, my name is Jack Goldberger and I'm here with Lilly Sanchez. And we are two lawyers that MEER lcci pans represent Jeffrey Epstein in some matters that are being investigated here in Palm Beach County. We've asked you to come in here today, and Wea )on an tence f we really appreciate that you came in here voluntarily. You've just been sworn to tell the truth, PON DEeTODeNCaeT rae este and really all that means is that we're going to take a statement from you. And it's obvious that we just want you to tell us what you know. pyc A EN GA SOO IE HR STETOTF TOTP A, Uh-huh. Q. We don't want you to tell us anything that riilvht ers is incorrect or a lie in any way. We simply want the truth here. And we’re going to do this very, very eT eAaseant ohieceelelocermanes quickly. Okay? CCU USFS POZE TOTAL SR TSAR ATRE TURE PSS Oo eB SE PIRSA CAV CFV T PECL PIR a 8s VEIT S TATE MACY SYN ES SO SLATE HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012258
isor & Associates Reporting and Trenuziption, Ine. Page 4 A. Uh-huh. Q. If you don't understand -- you know, I talk in what's called lawyerese sometimes. And if you don't understand what I'm saying, just say, “Jack, what are you talking about?” And we'll get it straight for you. Okay? A. Un-huh. Q. Will you tell me what your full name is. Aw @. Okay. And your birthday, | sg As Okay. Now where do you live right now? Is that here in West Palm Beach? How long have you lived there at that address? And you live there with your son? A. Yes. And my parents. Q. Ckay. You've never been in court before for anything, have you? A. Traffic. | Your own traffic? Nothing, nothing serious. Sela a AEST RRC SACI ICA POTN AMET BRE COSI ROY VE SOU ERE HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012259
isor & Assoc - Reporting asd Transeriptics, fee, QO. Just your own traffic matters? A. Yes. Q. Have you ever had to have an attorney represent you for anything? A. No. Q. Good for you. Okay I want to talk to you about a man that you know by the name of Jeffrey Epstein. A. Uh-huh. You know Jeffrey, do you not? I met him once, Q. Okay. And now before you went to Jeffrey Epstein's house, had you ever heard of him before? A. Yes, | | had told me about him, [I Q. And what had RR coi you about Mr. Epstein? A, She told me that he was having girls such as I =:¢ J. enc otners that 1 don't know their names, were setting up girls to bring them over and give him massages, and it was going to be strictly massages, no physical contact other than that, and that I would be HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012260
sor & Associates ” Reporting and Transerigtion, ine. Page 6 getting paid -- I don't remember what she told me. I think she said a hundred dollars for a half-hour or something, two hundred; either a hundred or two hundred, I can't remember. It was a long time ago. Q. Sure. A, But it was only going to be for a half-hour and that was it. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012261
_ mnsor & Associates _~ Reporting and ‘Trenseripticn, inn, Page 7 anyone that worked for Mr. Epstein before going over Q. Okay. So a <2: you that you could go over to Mr. Epstein's house and do a straight, aT are gS CNTF TY CUNO PU HCA Fy QUEENS fe RRS RAFU RR LR ra URC T legitimate massage, correct? Sd ae serra A. Yes. Q. And that there would be no physical or TIGR NTE eae eee sexual contact in any way? A. Right. Q. And I assume that was important to you to, to make sure that there would be no sexual contact? A. Yeah. I nean was one of my good friends. She was one of my best friends at the time and I trusted her word, and what she told me sounded legitimate and legal, to my understanding. I wasn't | doing anything out of the way. So I believed it wasn't too bad to do to clear my bank account up and get that straightened out. E HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012262
sor & Associates " Reporting and Trenssziption, Jac. Q. Okay, Now, I think you just what answered the question, but let me just ask -~ I'm going to do what I told you I wouldn’t do; I’m going to ask it to you in legalese. Before going over to Mr. Epstein's house, anyone try to persuade you te engage in that kind of sexual activity or sex with Mr. Epstein? A. No. Q. Okay. A. when (pac -- becausefi——n vas the one that had drove me over there ~~ Q. Right. A, iad P| told me that would be the one driving me -- they were following -- and | aS said that if -- he might ask if I wanted to do anything else, that it was up to me, I could say yes or no. She said, "He may ask you to do other things." Q. But no one was asking you before you —- A. No one was telling me that I had to do anything. She was just stating that it was a possibility HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012263
nsor & Associates Reporting wud Trerseription, Inv. he may ask me to do other things. Pace 9 Q. Most importantly though, before you went over there, no one tried to persuade you to engage in any kind of sex? A. No, no one persuaded me. Q. No one was inducing you or enticing you to do any kind of sex? A. No. on Okay. And certainly no one that had any association with Mr. Epstein tried to persuade you or induce you to engage in any kind of sex? A. No. Q. Okay. As far as what JM saia she said he may ask you whether you want to do anything to you, and it was totally within your rights to decide? A, Totally within my rights to do whatever I wanted to do. Q. And I assume she told you that if anything was asked of you, whether you wanted to do anything else, I assume told you that Mr. Epstein would absolutely respect that. In other words, if you were asked to do anything and you said no, he would say, "Fine. I understand." A. Yeah. Because he told me in the room if I didn't want to -- whatever I didn't want to do, just say HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012264
isor & Associates ; Reporting and Thenscrptiog, Ine. no and he said that was fine. QO. Okay. As That's what I was understanding. Q. Okay. But that conversation only took place after you got to his house, right? A. Yeah, right. Q. Okay. And going back to, :o ii she never communicated to you, with you by e-mail or text messaging about any engaging in any kind of sexual activity? A. No. It was just that day that I had decided that I was going to go over there that had took me over oT - house and then ae »:: drove me there and p | and PE «c2icec. Q. Okay. I know the answer to this is obvious, because you only went there to Mr. Epstein's house one time, but I've got to ask you this. You never traveled anywhere with Mr. Epstein, did you? A. No. Q. You never left the state to meet with Mr. Epstein, did you? A. No. Heard other girls did. Q. Okay. Ms. Sanchez just reminded me of a question I forgot to ask. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012265
: ‘Reporting and Trenserpioa, Tan. telephone at any time, did you? A. No. pen Tarpaty oreo cys yA SRE EE Q. Thank you. So I think what I'm hearing you tell me is RFT a ARE CATT that your going over there was entirely voluntary; it was consensual on your part? A. It was consensual on my part, yes. Q. No one told you that you had to dress in PANT Metals ia retinanrercestincora rive ee any particular way? A. No. I was wearing jeans and a tee shirt. Q. Kind of like today, right? E A. Exactly. 0: Now, you were told that you didn't have to take your clothes off, right? A. Yeah. She was -- well, they told me it was up to me, They said that it was just going to be a massage. They didn't tell me anything further than that. They said if he did ask me, it was entirely up to me, Q. Right. SUT BRS ae TTT A. And that was that. Os Right. And you were told you could say no to anything if anything was asked? A. Yes. Q. And that was clearly the atmosphere that existed when you went to the house? Pmt mare eee EAT STR R ECOG H BN APP IMCS NET STU TSNLS STORY Sn TaLD et chat a aE NANDA DETECTS o TIE OETA TVET ho eT ae ANT HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012266
wor & Associates Reporting and Transoription, Tac. Page 12 A. ‘Uh-huh. | Q. Anything that was done was totally your bang ise PALI EA THEN decision? A. Exactly. Q. All right. Great. Now you never -- during the one time that TEA Tes These de ea ent Pda ae you were with Mr. Epstein, you never told him at any time ETS E ated erence eect that you were uncomfortable with him in any way, did you? A. No. Q. You weren't afraid to say no to him about anything, were you? A. Nothing. Or anybody. Q. Did he ever touch any of your private parts No. MR. GOLDBERGER: Let's go off the record for a second. Te arr can rw Pence LE 33131 (Discussion held off the record.} MR. GOLDBERGER: Back on the record, BY MR. GOLDBERGER: TSS seaereace neuro et SUA TENT TD TPOTRESI eeu TET GNESI HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012267
msor & Associates * Floparting and Trenseviption, In. Q. Okay. Now while you were with Epstein, did he touch his penis at all? Bus No, he did not. Q. Did he masturbate in front of you? Ne. And you didn't touch his penis, I assume? No. You didn't help him masturbate? No. ( a And certainly -- Sex A. Sorry. He was too old. Q. I hear you. And I'm sorry to ask these questions that are so obvious. A. It's your job. Q. Mr. Epstein did rot have any sex with you in any way? A. No. Q. You didn't have any kind of oral sex with A. No. Q. Okay. Did Mr. Epstein ever penetrate you in any way with his finger or anything? HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012268
Page 14 1 Q. And I would assume based on what you've been telling me, that Mr. Epstein never threatened you in any way? A. No. 5 Q. In fact, I think you described him as being a nice guy, right? 7 A. He was a nice guy. I mean I'm not going to sit here and actually defend him, because I know he was wrong for some parts maybe in his case, but as far as I go, it was -- he was not threatening me. He didn't make me do anything that I didn't want to do. I said no if I didn't want to do something and -- 13 Q. So clearly, you were not afraid when you were there or anything like that? A. No. 16 Q. All vight. And Mr. Epstein didn't offer you drugs of any kind? A. No, 19 Q. Okay. He didn't offer you any alcohol? 20 A. Nothing. Qt Q. And I think you told me already -- but let's make sure we're clear on the record, -- you went to Mr. Epstein's house one time and one time only, correct? A. Correct. And that's the only time that you've ever a LOE RBA AE RSET AV VTE TONS IULOT? 2 ET EY ONESIES LEST ST ICT. TY aT PESTS SEAVER eV OPEN TTT HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012269
ws sor & Associates Soper vod Thence ne seen Mr. Epstein? A. Correct. Q. Okay. And you certainly never called the police as a result of this? A. No. Q. And you never contacted the State Attorney's Office? A. No. besides f | which was my best friend. LI always talked to her. She asked if I ever wanted to go back again and I told her no. And she was just asking me that as a friend question, not to ask me if I was actually willing to go back over there. Q. She wasn't speaking as a representative of Mr. Bpstein? A. Right. Q, It was just a friend -~ Right, just a friend conversation. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012270
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a nsor & Associates “Reporting and Tremesiption, Ine, Q. Okay. And clearly, you had some debt based on what your boyfriend had done ta you and you wanted to get paid for this massage? A. Correct. He swiped out my bank account and I needed a way to come up with $200 that -.was over my bank. So I’d get paid 300. JI put 200 in my bank and I believe I gave i a hundred for taking me. QO. Given your debt situation, it was important to you to convince Mr. Epstein that you were over 18, because you wanted to do this job? A. Correct. @.. Gotcha, Okay. Believe it or not -- let me just check with Ms, Sanchez, ~- but I think I've got everything covered here. A. I don't believe it was so much Epstein as it was the girls that were working for him, that were bringing in the service, because the girls were the ones telling everybody to lie, to bring in the business so that they could get paid. I know he was traveling them back and forth and renting them rental cars. Q. So I think what you're telling me is that you really believe that Mr. Epstein was relying on what HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012272
o™ 19 20 21 22 23 24 sor & Associates Reporting and Trenzeripiion, Ins. Page 18 : the other girls were doing to make sure that the women that were brought -- A. Por the most part, yes. I believe that -- I mean of course that this is what he wanted and this is what he set up. Q. Uh-huh. A. But I believe he had the girls doing all the work for him, so that they were the ones that were more getting in trouble for bringing in the business than him. Correct. Okay. You've understood all the questions I have asked you today, right? A. Yes. Q. Any questions about what I've asked you? HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012273
nsor & Associates , Reporting and Transesiption, Inc. Page 19 § coming in here today. We got this done much quicker than if we had to go to the courthouse to do it. Bee Thank you. Q. I didn't coerce you in any way to give any particular answers, did I? A. No, Q. I asked you to do was tell the absolute truth? Es fine. That's good. that's what you did, you told the truth? Told the truth. we. coLpBerceR: MM tanks so much for coming in today. I appreciale it very much. THE WITNESS: No problem. MS. SANCHEZ: Thank you. (Thereupon, the sworn statement was iS concluded at 12:15 p.m.) : ARF ER Tose tet Soe mT TUN IERIE Ts VT EDT ETISE TSMC UG SP REVS EIS Bn RD ICY aH MD aS LEAL IN AUEN DECI DD TOTTI RIN A CEN HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012274
-~ "Topselingsac Teesusiities, inc. THE STATE OF FLORIDA, COUNTY OF PALM BEACH. ) i, the undersigned authority, certify that 5 EE »--s02211y appeared before me on the 21st : of March, 2008 and was duly sworn. WITNESS my hand and official seal this 22nd day of March, 2008. Chad L Judith F. Consor, FPR Notary Public - State of Florida Pee SN eENT LSS RIE TUTRTALEC NES SCRAP Oe TOOT Tp oN RCAC? EEN et ee ae ab bY BEAN NANT! SELECT DENT STOP TaD eT Lt UCI Os DLL) EEN LY NTT Cn an epen oe cops Tae bec TESTA HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012275
sor & Associates Reporting aod Transcription, Inc, 10 11 12 13: 14 15 16 17 18 19 Page 21 f CERMCF TOR eS The State Of Florida, ) County Of Palm Beach. ) I, Judith F. Consor, Court Reporter and Notary Public in and for the State of Florida at large, do hereby certify that I was authorized to and did stenographically report the sworn statement of | GMM, that @ xeview of the transcript was not requested; and that the foregoing pages, numbered from 1 to 19, inclusive, are a tme and correct transcription of my stenographic notes of said sworn statement. I further certify that said sworn statement was taken at the time and place hereinabove set forth and that the taking of said sworn statement was commenced and completed as hereinabove set out. I further certify that I am not an attorney or counsel of any of the parties, nor am I a relative or employee of any attorney or counsel of party connected with the action, nor am I financially interested in the action. The foregoing certification of this transcript does not apply to any reproduction of the same by any means unless under the direct control and/or direction of the certifying reporter, DATED this 22nd day of March, 2008. AKL Lercrpe _ Judith F. Consor, Court Reporter Florida Professional Reporter HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012276
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oO oan A ww BP WN NN NN NY N BF BR BP BP Re Be eB bP Pp BB MW BWN FP OO AN DOU BR WN FO 2007-04-25 .1xT IN THE CIRCUIT COURT OF THE FIFTEENTH JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND FOR PALM BEACH COUNTY, FLORIDA STATE OF FLORIDA STATE OF FLORIDA, vs. JEFFREY EPSTEIN, Defendant. TRANSCRIPT OF TAPED STATEMENT or 4-24-07 Transcribed by: vicki S. Woodham, Court Reporter Notary Public, State of Florida consor & Associates 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Boulevard, Suite 500 west Palm Beach, Florida 33401 Phone - 561.682.0905 Page 1 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012282
— fo™ 2007-04-25 | ay 2 1 (Taped statement as follows:) 2 AGENT RICHARDS: This is Special Agent Jason 3 Richards with the FBI along with Special Agent 4 Nesbit Kirkendul and Assistant United States 5 Attorney Marie Bilafonia here to conduct an 6 interview with vs. AISO present is 7 her attorney, Jim Eisenberg and Carrie Sheehan. 8 MR. EISENBERG: And we are here -- This is Jim 9 Eisenberg and my investigator, Ms. Sheehan is here. 10 And we're here pursuant to a subpoena that was 11 served on me for MMM and that's why we're 12 here. So Ms. Bilafonia, it’s your show. 13 MS. BILAFONIA: Okay, great. 14 AGENT RICHARDS: I also want to add that the 15 date is 4-24-07, and the time by my watch is 4:21 16 p.m. 17 BY AGENT RICHARDS: 18 Q. | | we just want to start off and I'l] lead 19 off first. We just want to get some basic info about 20 you, simple stuff. I’ve got your date of birth as 21 i is that correct? 22 A. Yes, sir. 23 Q. I just want to get like your basics like that 24 stuff first. Your current address? . Page 2 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012283
uo oN OH WH BP WwW NY NN NN NN BP BP BP BBP BP Pp Bp Bp wi BP WN FP GO Oo FN DU HR WwW NY FH CO Q A Q. A Q 2007-04-25 | i You have a cell phone or -- And home phone? only cell. Only cell, okay. Now have you had other cell phone numbers in the past and do you know any of those? A. Q. A. Q. f that's the only one I can remember. Okay. But you had some others? uh-huh. Okay. BY MS. BILAFONIA: Oo P @ > who's your service provider? Metro. Metro. And for that other number as well? Yes. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. A. Q. A. Q. remember? A. Q. Where did you go to high school? And what year did you graduate? What year was that that you dropped out, do you No. what year were you supposed to graduate, your Page 3 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012284
fo™ oOo oN DO MW BB WN Bf 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 2007-04-25 | ba 4 class? . Q. Okay. A. I had got my GED. Q. when did you get that? A, About three months ago. Q. And are you going to college anywhere currently? A. Not right now. Q. Plans? A. I have plans. BY MS. BILAFONIA: Q. where are you thinking about going? A. I'm not positive what I want to do. There's a lot of things on my mind, but right now I'm focusing on my son. I have a two year old so right now I'm just working. AGENT RICHARDS: He's a handful? THE WITNESS: Yeah. AGENT RICHARDS: TI have one, too. THE WITNESS: Yeah. So in the future, I'm definitely going to go to college. I'm going definitely going to go to school. But I have, you know, a modeling career going on right now that's Page 4 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012285
Oo AN DM BP WN NN NN B RP eB BP RP Be BP Be eB BE Wn FF Oo AN DU BwWN FO 2007-04-25 a... hopefully going to -- some of you will notice me, hopefully, and that would be great, but I don't know. BY MS. BILAFONTA: Q. Where else are you working? A. I work for Advanced Cleaning Systems. They clean carpets. AGENT RICHARDS: Advanced what was it? THE WITNESS: System Cleaning. BY MS. BILAFONIA: Q. And where are they located? A. Las Palmas, 11 Swanee, S-w-a-n-e-e, Swanee Drive. Q. Are you working in an office there or do you go out to people's homes? A. Iwork in an office there. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Obviously, you know why we're here and what we want to talk about. So let me just kind of lead into do you know Jeffrey Epstein? A. Yes. Q. Yes, of course, you do. Now when did you meet Jeff? Does he go by Jeff or Jeffrey or -- A. Jeffrey. Page 5 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012286
24 25 Oo Aan DHT PW NY NN PP Pb eB BR eB eB Pp BY Ke Oo ODO Dn HD UM BP WwW NY KF OC 2007-04-25 | aa Q. Okay. when did you meet him and who introduced you to Jeffrey? 6 Q. Do you know her Tast name? A. No. She was a friend of one of my friends, so I really didn't know her. BY MS. BILAFONIA: Q. when was that? A. I really couldn't tell you. I don't even remember. It's been so long ago. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. So RMI introduced you to him. was it ata party setting or how did you guys meet? A. No. She came to me and she said hey, would you like to make a couple dollars and I said sure. TI said doing what? She said, well, I know this Jeffrey. He lives on Palm Beach Island and I bring girls there and he likes massages and I was like okay. So I asked her, I said well, what about my age? Q. Okay. And about what time period was it that Page 6 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012287
a“ Se f 22 23 24 25 wo on DTD wT eRe WwW NH b Oo 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 2007-04-25 | a you went over there first, do you remember? A. what time period? Q. Yes. As far aS what year was that that you were in school? BY MS. BILAFONTIA: Q. were you a freshman or a sophomore, do you remember? A. I couldn't tell you. I couldn't tell you. Probably a sophomore. Q. Now you said that l& Did she elaborate on what types of massages? Q. And do you know whether PE hac given him massages? A. Yeah, she said she's done it before. Q. And do you know whether [A had taken any other girls over to see Jeffrey? A. Yes, she probably did. Q. Did she tell how much you would make? Page 7 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012288
fo” 21 22 23 24 25 ow AN DU KR WN BP PoP BP Re Be Be ep ep Ep aon TO UW Bh WwW NY HP OC 2007-04-25 FE pc Yes. what did she tell you? We go there and we make $200 in 30 minutes. Oo F DH PLP Now you said that you asked her, you know, what -- do I need to be worried about my age. A. Because I don’t want to be -- you know, it was like I was underage and I was young and I was pretty stupid and I didn’t want to get -- I didn't want to get in trouble, BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. Now RJ did she -- at? In school? what setting? A. “my girlfriend's house. I don't know what girlfriend's house it was. Everybody was just hanging out. And she said -- she came up to me and she asked me. She said, do you want to make a couple bucks and @ said sure. Page 8 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012289
fo™ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 FEF FP RP YF RP RP KF F “SN HD Uw DBP W NP FEF OO BY MS. BILAFONIA: Q. so iii took you that first time, but then after that you communicated directly with Jeffrey? A. Uh-huh. Q. Tell us about that first time that you went to his house. Who -- how did you get there? A. one of a : friends and they dropped us off and then we went. You know, we got escorted up to the massage room and he told me everything. He said, Listen, I like massages. And we had the whole massage table laid out, the lotions and everything. And she was in there for the first like five minutes. And the first time I gave him a massage, she left the room and I gave him a massage. And she told me, she says he likes women topless massages. So & willingly the first time took off my top when I gave him a massage and nothing more than that. HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012290
18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 wow oN OD WN BR wWN FPF FP FPF FE RP wu & WwW hw FF @ 2007-04-25 | au Q. Okay. Let me just ask you a couple of was out of there. follow-up questions. You said that someone escorted you up to the room. Do you know who that was? A. One of -- what's her name? Actually, | | PE jusc said, you know, it's up there and she just told me where it was. Q. And then you said that you and || went 10 upstairs together? A. Uh-huh. Q. And | | stayed in there for the first few minutes? A. uh-huh. Q. Was Jeffrey already in the room by the time a | eft? A. Yeah, he was in the room. Q. Okay. Was he there when you guys showed up in the room or did he come in after you were already there? Q. And you said that you took your top off. Did anybody ask you to take it off, Tike did i say it's time for you to take it off? A. No, she wasn't in the room. Page 10 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012291
16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 mo a VN OD wa BR W N - PoP RP PRP pb BR WH FHF OO 2007-04-25 [EE xt Q. By the time you took it off, okay. Q. okay. And during that first massage, you said that you gave him a shoulder and neck massage? A. Q. was he face down the entire time that he got his massage? 11 A. Yeah. Q. And what did you do during the massage? Did you talk or -- A. Yeah, we talked. Q. And what would you talk about with him? A. well, we were just getting to know each other. we talked about how my lifestyle was, what he did for a living and just all positive things, really nice things. Q. Okay. what was he wearing when you first came in the room? A. I'm sorry. When he first -- when he first came in the room, he was fully clothed. And then he said, you know, wait a second. I'm going to go on the massage table and he put a towel over him just like a normal Page 11 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012292
15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 oO ON DOD Ww FR WwW NY HF HR oe NY BO masseuse would do. Did he undress and put a towel around him? Uh-huh. > Okay. a Q. And after the massage was over, you received the $2007 A. He gives money right away. Q. I'm sorry. Was that before you started the massage or after the massage he gave you? 12 A. The first time, he gave me the money right away. Q. Okay. And he's the person that paid you the $200? A. No, it’s always I Q. HE gave you the money? A. uh-huh. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. What's a: Tast name, do you know? A. I don't know. MR. EISENBERG: You can't look at papers. If you think you know, you know. If you don't know, -- Page 12 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012293
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ——— Oo ON Du BF WN BP hr he Fr oO 2007-04-25 MEE 1x7 THE WITNESS: No, I don’t know. TI don't know i : last name. He does. BY MS. BILAFONIA: Q. Okay. The only thing I'm confused about is you said that J dian’ even take you upstairs. She just told you where you should go? A. Uh-huh. Q. So when did she pay you the money? A. She paid me then and there when I first walked in the door, me and P| BY AGENT. RICHARDS: Q. She paid you before you went upstairs? A. Yes. 13 BY MS. BILAFONTIA: Q. And how much was F | paid? A. Everybody got paid $200. Q. And after -~ So after the massage was finished, you said that you had already been paid. who asked you for your name and telephone number? A, Jeffrey said, well, I'd like to see you again. Can I have your number? From what I remember, I'm pretty sure he asked me for my number and I gave him my number. Q. Okay. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Page 13 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012294
12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Oo Own DA UW BR wWN BP 2007-04-25 IE x Q. Did he write it down upstairs? He had a pen handy, I hope? | A. uh-huh. BY MS. BILAFONTA: Q. On that first massage, you said that you worked on him topless. But when you first started, did you take -- what were you wearing? And he’s like yeah, I do. I prefer that. And who wouldn't, you know? So I said okay and I took it off. Q. And you took off your bra as well? A. Q. A. Q. 14 Yes. And you left your jeans on? Yes. Oo Fr» YH Y So you said that that day you gave your name Page 14 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012295
“oN fo ™ 10 14 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on DN OM BR WN pp 2007-04-25 Ext and number to Jeffrey. When was your next contact from him or anybody who worked for him? A. The next day, he had called me and he said would like to come out again and I'd like to see you again. I said sure. I took a taxi there and I went there again. The following day? The next day. Q. Okay. And she said Jeffrey says he wants to see you again? A. Yes. 15 Q. And then you said you took a taxi? A. Yes. Q. Is that how you would normally get to and from his house? A. uh-huh, if I didn't have friends because f don't drive, yeah. BY AGENT RICHARDS: Q. How did you get home the first time when Page 15 HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_012296





































