Epstein Secrets

LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 119 1 : But -- 2 : -- with him -- 3 : -- but that's what would 4 have been used by the SHU staff, in order to 5 produce Reyes to the R&D. 6 : No. Not necessarily. What 7 typically happens is, the R&D staff will call 8 up to SHU, and say, hey, I need Reyes down. He 9

point being is, do 25 you think that, if any staff that is working in EFTA00058980 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 111 1 that, you know, as we know, Mr. Reyes left - - 2 : Right. 3 : -- in the morning of 4 August 9th, Mr. Epstein was found the -- 5 : Mm-hmm. 6 : -- the morning of August 7 10th.

could house Mr. Epstein alone 22 in the SHU, to which I replied that we could 23 not, based on his prior suicide 24 attempt/gesture." 25 MR. HAYES: It's just, I've never heard of EFTA00058971 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 102 1 his lawyers. You would think that his lawyers 2 would be somebody tha

ause this is the day that Reyes 4 was gone. So, it says the captain was in there 5 on Friday. 6 : Mm-hmm. 7 : Should have he noticed 8 that Reyes wasn't there? 9 : Not necessarily. If he 10 didn't go down range. And he could have come 11 up, and remember, we have Ten South that's 12 con

LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 201 1 8:38 a.m., inmate Reyes is pre-removed from ZA 2 for count, and taken off the lieutenant log. 3 The accurate ZA SHU count moves down to 76. 4 Reyes was removed from th

hink we brought this. "One of the counts 14 actually shows 73 plus one." Do we have that 15 in there? 16 : The 10:00 p.m. 17 : Okay. 18 MR. HAYES: I admire your guys' 19 (Indiscernible *02:26:48). 20 : Yeah. You would also 21 This is all probably -- 22 : 73 (Indiscernible *02:26:52). 23

hey're going to have. So, I 23 got to ask. I know you mentioned that you 24 couldn't have secondary selection. Like, 25 another replacement for Reyes, because inmates EFTA00059306 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 437 1 keep moving. But is it possible that a list 2 should have been created? That, you kn

23 : Okay. 24 : So. 25 : So then, I'm just going EFTA00059274 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 405 1 to read the question. If the documents list 2 Reyes as being WAS, and if they had the 3 transfer list, why did they say he went to 4 court and did not return? 5 : I can't answer that. 6 : Okay.

s it appropriate for 5 him to immediately go into the cell? Or should 6 have he waited for staff to arrive on site? 7 : You should be -- 8 MR. HAYES: What? 9 : -- you're trained -- 10 MR. HAYES: To go into the cell, I would 11 think. 12 : -- no, you wait for enough 13 staff to get there,

do, but -- 2 MR. : But -- 3 MR. : -- with him -- 4 MR. : -- but that's what would 5 have been used by the SHU staff, in order to 6 produce Reyes to the R&D. 7 MR. : No. Not necessarily. What 8 typically happens is, the R&D staff will call 9 up to SHU, and say, hey, I need Reyes down. He

point being is, do EFTA00119128 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 111 1 you think that, if any staff that is working in 2 that, you know, as we know, Mr. Reyes left - - 3 MR. : Right. 4 MR. : -- in the morning of 5 August 9th, Mr. Epstein was found the -- 6 MR. : Mm-hmm. 7 MR. : -- the morning

e SHU, to which I replied that we could 24 not, based on his prior suicide 25 attempt/gesture." EFTA00119119 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 102 1 MR. HAYES: It's just, I've never heard of 2 his lawyers. You would think that his lawyers 3 would be somebody that I was familiar with. 4 MR. : Yeah. 5

s the day that Reyes 6 was gone. So, it says the captain was in there 7 on Friday. 8 MR. : Mm-hmm. 9 MR. : Should have he noticed 10 that Reyes wasn't there? 11 MR. : Not necessarily. If he 12 didn't go down range. And he could have come 13 up, and remember, we have Ten South that's 1

LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 201 1 5:00 a.m. El institution count, respective ZA 2 SHU count slips, eyes on count shows 77. At 3 8:38 a.m., inmate Reyes is pre-removed from ZA 4 for count, and taken off the lieutenant log. 5 The accurate ZA SHU count moves down to 76. 6 Reyes was removed from th

ought this. "One of the counts 16 actually shows 73 plus one." Do we have that 17 in there? 18 MR. : The 10:00 p.m. 19 MR. : Okay. 20 MR. HAYES: I admire your guys' 21 (Indiscernible *02:26:48). 22 MR. : Yeah. You would also -. 23 This is all probably -- 24 MR. : 73 (Indiscernible *0

t they're going to have. So, I 2 got to ask. I know you mentioned that you 3 couldn't have secondary selection. Like, 4 another replacement for Reyes, because inmates 5 keep moving. But is it possible that a list 6 should have been created? That, you know, 7 should have told the SHU officers,

22 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 405 1 MR. : Okay. 2 MR. : So. 3 MR. : So then, I'm just going 4 to read the question. If the documents list 5 Reyes as being WAB, and if they had the 6 transfer list, why did they say he went to 7 court and did not return? 8 MR. : I can't answer that. 9 MR

ropriate for 8 him to immediately go into the cell? Or should 9 have he waited for staff to arrive on site? 10 MR. : You should be -- 11 MR. HAYES: What? 12 MR. : -- you're trained -- 13 MR. HAYES: To go into the cell, I would 14 think. 15 MR. : -- no, you wait for enough 16 staff to

This initial 25 one actually talks about Friday, August 9th, EFTA00058893 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 24 1 2019. It starts with, "8:00 a.m., inmate Reyes 2 Efrain, reg number 85993-054, departs for 3 court. WAB-USMS-SDNY. Reyes is Epstein's 4 celimate." 5 : Right. 6 : So, just starting with

pecial Agent 3 EFTA00058873 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 1 As well as -- 2 UNKNOWN MALE: Edward Hayes. 3 4 attorney. I'm sorry. What is it? 5 MR. HAYES: Edward Hayes. H-A-Y-E-S. 6 First name E-D-W-A-R-D. 7 : Thank you, sir. Who is 8 representing . This interview will be recorded by me, 10 .

This initial EFTA00119041 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 24 1 one actually talks about Friday, August 9th, 2 2019. It starts with, "8:00 a.m., inmate Reyes 3 Efrain, reg number 85993-054, departs for 4 court. WAB-USMS-SDNY. Reyes is Epstein's 5 cellmate." 6 MR. : Right. 7 MR. : So, just start

EFTA00119021 LIMITED OFFICIAL USE 1 As well as -- 2 UNKNOWN MALE: Edward Hayes. 3 MR. : -- Mr. 4 attorney. I'm sorry. What is it? 5 MR. HAYES: Edward Hayes. H-A-Y-E-S. 6 First name E-D-W-A-R-D. 7 MR. : Thank you, sir. Who is 8 representing Mr. . This interview will 9 be recorded b