Epstein Secrets

use I was there. 9 TODD BLANCHE: And you mentioned that 10 early -- in the very beginning of the conversation, 11 you mentioned President Trump in the early '90s. 12 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. 13 TODD BLANCHE: What -- what's -- what did 14 you observe, as far as President

he book of 19 all the people who were involved. It includes Alan 20 Dershowitz, for the record, who's marked. I don't 21 remember what it does with Donald Trump. I don't -- 22 I don't know. You'd have to look. I don't have it. 23 But I believe -- 24 TODD BLANCHE: I see. 25

's marked. I don't 21 remember what it does with Donald Trump. I don't -- 22 I don't know. You'd have t

y beginning of the conversation, 11 you mentioned President Trump in the early '90s. 12 GHISLAINE MAXWEL

those, 14 where are the rest? There was none of Mr. Trump. 15 TODD BLANCHE: In your discovery?

re that one of those girls 23 is -- was one of the witnesses in my trial, 24 specifically . 25 To use her own testimony so that you don't DOJ REDACTION MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 122 1 have to -- 2 TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. 3 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- hear my point of 4 view. It's

rk, 21 to help look at some of that. He was having some 22 advertising issues with the New York Daily News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was friendly with him and 25 liked him very much. And I think, should be said 4 (Pages 10 to 13) 4 (Pages 10 to

. 3 So I don't -- I don't remember if I did 4 meet him or not in 1990 with my dad, but I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before you 7 met -- 8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: This was before I met 9 Mr. Epstein. 10 TOD

ly News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was frie

y beginning of the conversation, 11 you mentioned President Trump in the early '90s. 12 GHISLAINE MAXWEL

t I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before

ame memory or lack 23 thereof, apply to on planes, at -- in New Mexico, in 24 New York, in -- 25 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, with some other DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION 33 (Pages 126 to 129) 33 (Pages 126 to 129) Page

rk, 21 to help look at some of that. He was having some 22 advertising issues with the New York Daily News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was friendly with him and 25 liked him very much. And I think, should be said MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 10 1

. 3 So I don't -- I don't remember if I did 4 meet him or not in 1990 with my dad, but I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before you 7 met -- 8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: This was before I met 9 Mr. Epstein. 10 TOD

ly News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was frie

t I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before

ens over the next, you know, like there's 24 been -- there's a ton of writing and a ton of, I 25 guess, testimony as well, but also public reporting, DOJ REDACTION MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 92 1 about how the recruiting was a very aggressive effort 2 that you were a part of, that he was a part of, and 3 oth

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u have, all of you, that when 22 you're so high pressured and you're spending so much 23 time with extraordinary people like you do with 24 President Trump, it -- it can blur. It just does. 25 And those few things that stand out, Page 254 1 because at the end it's all just extraordinary as

ime with extraordinary people like you do with 24 President Trump, it -- it can blur. It just does. 25

as working at Mar-a-Lago and that 23 you received a treatment of her -- from her at some 24 point, and that you recruited her to meet 25 Mr. Epstein. DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION Page 220 1 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Right. 2 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know, affirmatively, 3 whether that's true or fal

But the issue is, how do you satisfy a mob 12 who can't understand the lifestyle because it's like 13 P. Diddy in Redux on TV with Clintons and Trump. I 14 mean, it's -- it's bananas. And while some of it is 15 real, he did do those things. I'm definitely not 16 disputing that. 17 But

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