Epstein Secrets

I'm not sure if they were girlfriends. I don't know what their relationship was. Q. Who are those people? A. Well, there was a (Glynn) Ghislaine Maxwell. Q. How do you know Ghislaine Maxwell? A. I met her through my brother. Q. How many times have you been around or hung out with Ghislaine Maxwell

rlfriends. I don't know what their relationship was. Q. Who are those people? A. Well, there was a (Glynn) Ghislaine Maxwell. Q. How do you know Ghislaine Maxwell? A. I met her through my brother. Q. How many times have you been around or hung out with Ghislaine Maxwell? A. Maybe a dozen or so, but we met

their ages. Q. Did you know these girls, or were these girls that were familiar with your brother? A. I didn't know them. I mean, unless it was Ghislaine or Eva years ago, but otherwise I didn't know them. Q. But the specific girls I'm talking about are the girls you are not going to speculate on t

ey Epstein after he started a relationship with Ms. Maxwell? MR. CRITTON: Form. A. I didn't spend a lot of

you ever hear that she helped to bring young girls to him for sex? A. I read that somewhere in one of the articles. Q. Is that something, knowing Ghislaine • ESQUIRE "A. ...... Toll Free: 800.211.3376 Facsimile: 954.331.4418 Suite 1300 515 East Las Olas Boulevard Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 www.esquire

THE WITNESS: What was your question? Q. Are you personally paying for the lawyer who is there representing you today? A. No. Q. Who is paying? A. Jeffrey. MR. WILLITS: I don't have any other questions. THE COURT REPORTER: Who is next? Identify yourself, please? MS. EZELL: I have just a couple of

ou think? 2 A. Correct, that's when I hired on and 3 actually moved to Florida was January 2001. 4 O. Prior to 2001, had you heard the name 5 Ghlsiaine Maxwell? 6 A. Yes. 7 O. How would you have heard Ghislaine Maxwell? 8 A. She had been a passenger on the 727 once 9 Or tWiCe. 10 0. The 727. I mean

O. Now we're back to Ghislaine Maxwell, and I 13 believe your answer - which led me back to these 14 questions that I had previously asked. 'Was Ghislaine 15 Maxwell on the airplane that Wexner owned that you know 16 of?' • and I think your answer was. 'With Epsten." 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 A. I w

ack to Ghislaine Maxwell, and I 13 believe your answer - which led me back to these 14 questions that I had previously asked. 'Was Ghislaine 15 Maxwell on the airplane that Wexner owned that you know 16 of?' • and I think your answer was. 'With Epsten." 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 A. I would - I woul

gements for meetings 4 and such prix. -- 5 A. Ms. Maxwell. 6 O. - that you remember? 7 So Maxwell was I

MR. EDWARDS: O. Not something he ever mentions. A. No, no. MR. PIKE: Form. BY MR. EDWARDS: O. The next - 2/3/05 - who's on the passenger list? A. Jeffrey, Jean Luc, David Mullen, female, female, female. O. Any idea why they would list lemale, female, female: without listing the names? A. No, just

personal relationship, she continued to work for him as an employee; isn't that right? A. Who's that, Ms. Maxwell? Q. Ms. Maxwell, yes. A. Yes. Q. Ghislaine. I'm talking Ghislaine still took care of the houses? A. Yes. Yes. Q. She still shopped for him? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-030

there was something wrong, ultimately it was her responsibility if there was a problem? A. It probably would have been the first phone call to Ms. Maxwell to say we got a problem. Q. If there was a problem with a pool guy not coming and the house manager wasn't dealing with it, Ghislaine would deal wi

u were 14 years old? A. Yes. Q. Who was most frequently in the room when you had sexual contact with Jeffrey Epstein when you were 14 years old? A. Ghislaine Maxwell. Q. I'd like to ask you to take a moment to look around the courtroom, and you can stand up if you need to if you can't see. Do you see Ghislaine

probably would have been the first phone call to Ms. Maxwell to say we got a problem. Q. If there was a probl

ar, did your mother go with you for these meetings? A. No. Q. Why not? A. She wasn't invited. Q. How would you typically get over to the house? A. Jeffrey would send his chauffeur for me. Q. Did you have your driver's license at the time? A. No. Q. Do you recall the driver who would pick you up? A.

re mostly alone with him when these incidents occurred in the New York house when you were 14, 15, and 16. Just to be clear, were there times when Maxwell was present during those years? A. Yes. Q. Where would these incidents in New York typically happen within the house? A. In the massage room. Q.

The year? Q. Approximately how old were you when you traveled to New Mexico? A. Oh, 15 or 16. Q. Who went with you on that trip? A. Jeffrey and Ghislaine. Q. Where did you spend most of your time on the trip to New Mexico with Maxwell and Epstein? A. At Epstein's house, which was a ranch. Q. What d

: Q. During the time period that we've been talking about when you were 14, 15, and 16, did your mother ever talk to you about Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell? A. The most that she would talk to me about was saying that _ need to be -- SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 EFTA00068790 329

New Mexico? A. The year? Q. Approximately how old were you when you traveled to New Mexico? A. Oh, 15 or 16. Q. Who went with you on that trip? A. Jeffrey and Ghislaine. Q. Where did you spend most of your time on the trip to New Mexico with Maxwell and Epstein? A. At Epstein's house, which was a ran