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Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 1 IN /NS CIRCUIT COURT Of TAR 15Th JUDICIAL CIRCUIT IN AND PM PAIN BRACH COUNTY. FLORIDA VOLONE I Pages 1 to 200 2 3 3 APPEARANCE OF COUNSEL On behalf of the Defendant ATTEFOURY. GOLDBERGER A WEISS BY: JACK ALAN GOLDBERGER. ESO.. 4 250 Australian Avenue Suite 1400 5 act. FL 33401 Plaintiff. I 6 /Case No. 5020006020051 On behalf of the Defendant by telephone: IX/WM AD JRFPRRY DITHER. e BURMAN. CRITTON. LUTTIER & COLEMAN Defendant . I 9 BY: MICHAEL J. PIKE. ESO.. 515 N. Fla or Drtve DEPOSITION OF 10 Suito 400 lm ad,. FL 33401 LARRY MAUNA NORAISON 11 TAKEN On SHALT OF INA PLAINTIFF October 4. 2009 12 10/59 a.m. - 2/20 p.m. 13 On behalf of the witness: 515 X. ?kegler Drive Nest Palm Beach, FL 13401.4121 14 LAW OFFICE OF BRUCE E. REINHART 15 BY: BRUCE E. REINHART. ESO.. One Clearleke Cantor 16 250 S. Australian Avenue Suite 1400 court reporter 17 &ch. FL 33401 16 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2 4 1 APPEARANCES OF COUNSEL 1 INDEX OF EXAMINATION e I On banal a the Flambe L.M.. ROTHSTEIN. 110SENFELDT a ADLER 2 BY: BRADLEY J. EDWARDS. ESO. 3 WITNESS: 4 111X1MICHAEL WHEELER. ESO.. 4 LARRY EUGENE MORRISON 401 East Las OHS 130.40Velt1 5 Page S41[91650 ran Lo, ie. FL 31394 6 DIRECT EXAMINATION By Mr. Edwards #5 7 CROSS-EXAMINATION On betel d Planter Jane Doe 2 through s By Ms. Ezell *190 T mERUELSTE1N 6 HOROWITZ. PA 9 CROSS-EXAMINATION By Mr. Willits #195 10 BY: JESSICA D. ARBOUR. ATTORMEY.AT4AW. 11) 11 19205 Beware Boulevard Suite 2218 CROSS-EXAMINATION Men. 1-1. 33160 11 By Mr. Pike N196 12 12 FURTHER REDIRECT EXAMINATION By Mr. Edwards #199 li On Denali of mantes Jane Doe 101 aro 102 by 13 telephone: 14 15 PODHURST ORSECK PA 15 16 BY: KATHERINE W. EZELL. ATTORNEY.ATiLAW. 25 W. Ragier Street 16 INDEX TO EXHIBITS 17 17 Plaintiffs IS 18 Exhibit Desolation Page On banal of me Plartlf C.MA by telapheac 19 1 Twenty-four pages of 'JEGE. Inc.. 20 Passenger Manifest.' *138 LAW OFFICE OF RICHARD WILLITS. PA 20 St BY: RICHARD WILLITS. ESO.. 21 2290101h Avenue N. 21 Suite 404 22 Laks Worm 33481 23 21 25 24 (Plaintiffs Composite 1 was attached to the original transcript and copies of the transcript.) 25 25 • ESQUIRE TN' Free: Facsimile: E M www.esquIresolutions.com EFTA00181382
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11. 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 5 Deposition of LARRY EUGENE MORRISON October 6. 2009 THE REPORTER: Do you swear the testimony you're about to give will be the truth, the whale truth. and nothing but the truth so help you God? THE WITNESS: So help me God. ------- LARRY EUGENE MORRISON, having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows: DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. EDWARDS: O. Tell us your name. A. Larry Morrison. O. And, Larry, where are you employed right now? A. For JEGE. O. What's JEGE mean? A. It's the aviation flight department for Mr. Epstein, and my primary job is Dankjold Reed Aviation. MR. REINHART: Spell it. A. D-A-N-K-J-O-L-D, and then the second word is Reed, R-E-E-D. Aviation. Its a corporate flight 7 1 You know. it was a business decision made somewhere. 2 O. What does the company do? 3 A. What? The company? It's just a holding 4 company, I think, for the aircraft. It's not -- I 5 don't believe it to be a money making company or a 6 real corporation. 7 O. You're saying 'tor the aircraft* I'm 8 interpreting that to mean you're talking about one 9 aircraft. 10 A. Correct. 11 O. Does that mean there's one or there's more 12 than one? 13 A. There's more. He owns more than one, but 14 justoneis JEGE Of -- 15 O. And the aircraft that he owns, how many of 16 those do you either service and/or ride on? 17 A. I used to. I haven't been — Actually, I 18 stepped back from being physically involved, just • 19 now I just do paperwork • and it was February of 20 2007. So I haven't actually physically been on the 21 airplanes other than I will take the Boeing for 22 maintenance. 23 O. Since it seems like we've kind of skipped 24 ahead from 2001 to 2007, am I right that your first 25 involvement with Jeffrey Epstein of any way, shape, or 6 1 department. 2 O. What do you do for him? 3 A. Director of Maintenance. 4 O. Okay, so you maintain his planes -- 5 A. Correct. 6 O. should something go wrong? 7 A. Correct. Yes. Yep. 8 O. Do you also — 9 A. For maintenance. 10 O. Do you also fly on his planes? 11 A. On Mr. Epstein's? 12 O. Yes. 13 A. I used to. I was a flight engineer -- 14 O. Okay. What -- 15 A. -- on his 727. 16 O. When you list your company - JEGE? 1? A. Yes. Yeah, ifs just initials. It's an 18 LLC or holding company. 19 O. How long has that holding company been around, 20 if you know? 21 A. Since — I think it was developed when I 22 came with the airplane • 2001. 23 O. Whose idea was it for that to come about • was 24 it yours? Was it his? 25 A. Oh, no. no, somewhere -- It wasn't mine. 8 1 form was 2001? 2 A. That's correct, yeah. 3 O. You didn't meet him before that. 4 A. I had met him. He was a -- He was an 5 associate of my previous boss. 6 O. Who's that? 7 A. Mr. Wexner. 8 O. -Wexner? 9 A. Yes. 10 O. How do you know Wexner? 11 A. I worked for Limited Stores for 12 years. 12 O. Doing what? 13 A. Essentially the same thing - aircraft 14 maintenance for their corporate flight department and 15 flight engineering on the 727. 16 O. How many aircraft did Wexner have? 17 A. Well, none that I know that he had 18 personally, but the corporation had - the flight 19 department operated - we had three Gulfstreams, two 20 Hawkers, and a 727. 21 O. What was the name Of his Corporation that 22 maintained the aircraft? 23 A. For Limited Stores? 24 O. Yes. 25 A. It was just -- It was called Limited - Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE www.esquireSOlutiOnS.COm • • • EFTA00181383
. Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 9 1 Limited Flight Department. 2 O. And do you know him personally then -- 3 Wexner? 4 A. Yeah, I had met him, of course, you know. 5 I met him. I used to do aircraft completions for 6 him, so which would involve personal meetings. 7 O. When did you first meet Wexner? 8 A. 1988 was when I hired on, so I don't 9 remember the month. 10 O. How did you get that job? 11 A. Through word of mouth and, you know. I 12 worked - I lived in - been in aviation for years in 13 Columbus. 14 O. Well, I mean, I= Wexner's an important 15 person, right? I mean, he -- 16 A. Correct 17 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 18 BY MR. EDWARDS: 19 O. He's somebody who owns - my understanding - 20 Limited, Victoria's Secret? 21 A. Well, he doesn't own them. He's Chairman. 22 you know. 23 O. Chairman of -- 24 A. Yeah. He doesn't personalty own it. It's 25 a publicly held company. 11 1 O. Yes. 2 A. Aircraft technician. 3 O. Which entails what? 4 A. Maintenance of any or all of the aircraft 5 operated by the flight department and some flight 6 mechanic duties. 7 O. What kind of airplanes? 8 A. Gulf streams, Hawkers. 9 O. How big is the Gulfstream? to A. Fifteen passenger - 15 to 17. 11 (Mr. Goldberger exited.) 12 BY MR. EDWARDS: 13 O. What did Wexner use the Gulfstream for? la A. They were division airplanes. mostly. 15 O. And the other airplane you named - what did he 16 use that for? 17 A. Same, same. 18 O. Any idea why he had two planes? 19 A. Well, I mean, yeah, we used them - they're 20 a tool. It wasn't him. It was a large Fortune 500 21 company. They use them as tools to -- You know, 22 Limited has control over 60 percent of their 23 manufacturing processes. plus, you know, what, 1200 24 stores, or whatever, throughout all their divisions. 25 I mean, when you say "Limited,* it's not 10 1 O. Where were you prior to any involvement with 2 MI Wexner? 3 A. I worked for Red Roof Inn True Sports 4 Flight Department. 5 O. How did that position lead you to 6 Wexner? 7 A. Well, it was always known that Limited 8 Flight Department was one of the best jobs in 9 Columbus and, actually, several other people that 10 were already there knew me from previous jobs and 11 education - we went through aircraft mechanic, or A&P 12 school, together - so when the position became 13 available they pointed to me and - absolutely. It 14 was a line organization. 15 O. So did Mr. Wexner approach you or did you 16 apply to him or how did that work? 17 A. Oh, no, no, no. It's -- No. He wouldn't 18 be involved in that type of activity. You apply to 19 H.R. and you interview with the Director of 20 Operations or the Chief Pilot. You know, he 21 wouldn't. 22 O. So you start with Wexner in 1988. 23 A. Yes. 24 O. What do you do for him then? 25 A. What did I do for him? 12 1 just Limited, d's Victoria's Secret and it was 2 Express and Lemers and Henri Benders and all of 3 that back then, so, I mean -- 4 O. 50 — A. -- we moved a lot of passengers to keep 6 those stores for the retail business. 7 O. And by *passengers.' do you also mean clients 8 of his? 9 A. That I don't know. No. Mostly we just 10 dealt with upper echelon, you know, people in the 11 retail businesses from -- 12 O. Such as whom? 13 (Mr. Goldberger entered.) 14 A. Can't even remember names, but it would be is -- We would take buyers to Europe in the spring and 16 fall. They would buy samples and bring them back to 17 analyze for marketing. We would hire -- We would - 18 Division heads, when they would do store shops and, 19 Real Estate, we take Real Estate out when they were 20 looking for new real estate. 21 O. While you were working back in '88 -- Well, 22 how long overall did you work with Wexner and/or 23 his companies? 24 A. Well, '88 through when I camp hero in 25 January of '01. • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutIons.com EFTA00181384
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 13 1 O. Why the change? 2 A. It offered an opportunity -- Well, one was 3 I enjoyed flying • and the 727 was being replaced by 4 a BBJ, which is a two•man airplane, not a three-man 5 airplane - three-pilot airplane - and it gave me the 6 opportunity to become a Director of Maintenance, and 7 it was a challenge. You know, bringing - upstaging 8 an airliner on a private ticket or a VIP ticket is 9 really challenging, and I enjoy the challenge of 10 working and developing the program and stuff. 11 O. Well, my understanding, Wexner is 12 generally - he's in Ohio, right? 13 A. No, he's got other places. I mean -- No, 14 he's like anyone, he's - in his category - he's got 15 multiple homes and -- 16 O. Well, when you would maintain his aircraft, 17 would that be in Ohio -- 18 A. Yes. We were based -- 19 O. Or elsewhere? 20 A. We were based at Lane Aviation. 21 MR. REINHART: Hold on one second. You 22 have to let him finish asking the question 23 before you answer. 24 THE WITNESS: Okay. I'm sorry. 25 BY MR. EDWARDS: 15 1 aircraft. I mean, whatever it takes to keep a 2 corporate flight department operating. 3 O. Did you know back then of his relationship, if 4 any, with Jeffrey Epstein? 5 A. Not immediately, no. 6 O. When is the first time that you knew of a 7 reputation or a relationship between Wexner and Epstein? a A. Would have had to probably be around maybe 9 '98, 99. 10 O. How do you become aware that they know one 11 another? 12 A. Because Jeffrey. every one That's when 13 I became a flight engineer on the Boeing. and every 14 once in a while Jeffrey would ride on the Boeing, 15 that's all • that's all I knew. 16 O. How did it come about that he would ride on 17 Wexner's Boeing? 18 A. They were business associates, I think. 19 O. As far as you know, they were business 20 associates. 21 A. Right. 22 O. Did you understand the business relationship 21 between the two? 24 A. Welk I believe it's public knowledge 25 that, I think, Jeffrey managed Mr. • some of Mr. 14 1 O. I'm sorry, have you ever had your deposition 2 taken before? 3 A. No. 4 O. You definitely never had your deposition taken 5 before while somebody else is trying to eat at the same 6 time they're trying to ask the questions that's very 7 bizarre. A. Yes, yes. 9 O. I meant to do this before I got here. But. 10 regardless. Ill wail until you finish your answer before 11 I ask my next question; you do the same thing. 'Uh-huh' 12 or 'uh-uh.' they kind of look the same on the record. so 13 try to give us a 'yes' or 'no' or something we 14 understand. 15 A. Alright. 16 O. II I ask a question that was a bad question or 19 something you don't understand - I've asked bad questions 18 before • say, I don't gel it? I'll ask a better 19 question. 20 A. Okay. 21 O. You were working with = Wexner. You got 22 the job there starting in 1988. On a day-to-day basis, 23 what would you be doing? 24 A. Maintenance, aircraft maintenance, 25 tracking of aircraft maintenance. cleaning of 16 1 Wexner's funds. 2 O. Is that something that Mr. Wexner told you? 3 A. No. 4 O. Is that something that somebody of Mr. 5 Wexner's organization would have told you? 6 A. No. 7 O. Is that something that Jeffrey Epstein told 8 you? 9 A. No. 10 O. Is that just reading articles that speculate 11 as to the business relationship between the two or do you 12 got something more for me? 13 A. No, it's just • it's speculation and, you 14 know, what I've read. you know. 15 O. I mean, like you say, to me it's common 16 knowledge -- 17 A. Right. 18 O. But It's only because of what I've read. I 19 don't have a specific person that I could cite to to say 20 that, do you? 21 A. Right. No, just - just periodicals. 22 O. What's your understanding of the personal 23 relationship, if any, between Wexner and Epstein? 24 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 25 A. Don't know. 0 ESQUIRE •5 AlcutadaCsIl•Campay Toll Free: Facsimile: E S www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181385
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 - tt • • • 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 17 O. Did you ever know of a time -- And I may be asking a question that would just be completely outside of your knowledge, so let me back up. Have you ever stayed at Wexner's house? A. No. O. Do you know where his house is? A. Yes. O. Do you know what the address is in Ohio? A. No. I just know the city. 0. Do you know who he lives with? A. Yes. O. Who is that? A. His wife and children. 0. What's his wiles name? A. Abigail. O. Abigail Wexner, and he has three or four daughters, right? A. No. Has got a son. Harry. and two daughters. I think. O. A son and two daughters. A. I don't know. See. that was back in 2001. I don't know what they have - if they have more kids O. Okay. Did you ever hear any Information that he was homosexual? 19 1 O. Have you spoken personally with Mr. Wexner? 2 A- On business issues, yes. 3 O. Business issues related to your work on Ns 4 airplanes? 5 A. Correct. 6 O. Have you spoken to him on any other issues 7 that don't involve business relationships with his a airplanes? 9 A. No. 10 O. Because you're Nred basically for that 11 purpose, so that's kind of how you deal with him. 12 A. Yeah. Ifs I'm an employee and he's my 13 employer and I only deal with him. you know. on 14 issues that Involve maintenance. 15 O. I think I probably know the answer to the next 16 question, but just in case I dont do you know any of 17 his personal friends • people that he would hang out with 18 on a social level - being Mr. Wexner? 19 A. Through my business ties, yes, yes. 20 O. Who's that? 21 A. I'm trying to remember -- You have to 22 remember ifs been several years. 23 O. Right. 24 A. He was friends with the Tuckennans. 25 O. What's Mr. Tuckerman or Ms. Tuckerman's names? 18 1 A. No. 2 O. Being Mr. Wexner. 3 A. No. 4 O. Any indication to you that he may be 5 homosexual or bisexual? 6 A. Absolutely not. 7 O. Have you heard any information that he and Mr. 8 Epstein were involved sexually with one another? 9 A. Oh, no. no. 10 O. Would that surprise you? 11 A. Absolutely. 12 O. And Mats only because you know him and you 13 know Mr. Wexner and you don't see the Iwo together. 14 A. Correct. 15 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 16 A. Welt - 17 O. He -- 18 A. Go ahead. 19 MR. REINHART: If you need to answer. 20 answer the question. 21 A. Yeah. No. I saw him with Sharon. which 22 was his previous girlfriend before he met Abigail. 23 O. Right. 24 A. No. There was never any hint or anything 25 that I would even conceive that. 20 1 A. Ms. -- I caret I always addressed them 2 by their proper name. 3 O. Do you know what they do? 4 A. They owned an optical company - opticians. They were high school friends from Mr. Wexner's high 6 school days. 7 O. In Ohio or New York? a A. He went to high school in Bexley. 9 O. Bexley. Ohio. 10 Has he ever discussed with you how 11 longstanding the relationship is between himself and Mr. 12 Epstein? 13 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 14 A. I don't understand. Can you rephrase it? 15 O. Well, you know that at some point in time - 16 You started working with him in 1988. The first time. 17 according to my notes. that you became aware that he was 18 friends or acquaintances with Mr. Epstein was '98 - 19 almost ten years later. 20 A. Right. 21 O. After you became aware that there was that 22 relationship, whether business or otherwise, did he ever 23 speak to you about how long he had known Mr. Epstein? 24 A. Oh, no, no. 25 O. So as far as you were concerned, 1998, when ESQUIRE nAltssada Gallo C•sit007 Toll Free: Facsimile: WM. www.esquiresolutIons.com EFTA00181386
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 21 1 you found out there was a relationship with Epstein. it 2 could have very well started then. 3 A. Yes. 4 O. Aside from aircraft technician and taking care 5 of Mr. Wexner's aircraft back in the '805 and, I guess. 6 early '90s, did you have any other personal involvement '7 with him? 8 A. Just on aircraft completions. 9 O. And when you would speak with him, would that 10 be over the telephone. at the airport. at his private -- 11 A. It would usually be al the corporate 12 office. 13 O. Al the corporate office? 14 A. At the corporate office. 15 O. Can you tell me the address for his corporate 16 office? 17 A. No, I can't. 18 O. If I requested that from your attorney, would 19 you be able to get that information? 20 A. Well, I mean. I imagine it's public 21 knowledge • wherever • it's at the Limited. 22 O. And that's where you would meet him • at the 23 Limited? 24 A. Yeah. 25 O. And how often was • you know, I know that 23 1 O. Who were some of the pilots? 2 A. Tun Staley. Jim Taylor. They've had some 3 turnover too. I don't know who all is still there 4 because retail is down. 5 O. Was Larry Visoski a pilot used by MI 6 Wexner at any time? 7 A. No. O. How about David Rodgers? 9 A. No. 10 O. Are those names you're familiar with? 11 A. Yes. 12 O. Those we names you're familiar with how? 13 A. I flew with them when I was flying for Mr. 14 Epstein. 15 O. So there's no real, other than yourself 16 Welt, tell me if I'm wrong: I understand that you did 11 some work for Mr. Wexner related to his aircraft and you Is did some work for Mr. Epstein, which we haven't yet got 19 to, but you did some work for him too. Are there any 20 other people that have that type of relationship with 21 both parties? 22 A. No. I'm sorry, resay that. 23 O. Okay. You've already told us that you were 24 the aircraft technician for Mr. Wexner. 25 A. One of them. One of several, yes. 22 1 we're talking about 15, 2O years ago - how often was Mr. 2 Wexner personally at that location at the Limited 3 offices? 4 A. I have no idea. S O. But any time you needed to talk to him. that's 6 where he would be? 7 A. Yeah, and I usually went to Charlie 8 Hinson. 9 O. Who's Charlie Hinson? 10 A. He was the president of the stores. He 11 basically was my gobehveen for these aircraft 12 completions for the design. 13 O. And you mentioned the Gullstream as an 14 aircraft. Did you also serve as a technician for other 15 aircrafts that were owned by Mr. Wexner? 16 A. Right, but not Mr. Wexner. They're owned 17 or operated by Limited Stores. 18 O. Limited Stores? 19 A. Right. Yes. 20 O. What did you do for them? 21 A. Same • maintenance. 22 O. Did you ever fly in them? 23 A. On the Guff streams in the early days we 24 used flight mechanics, especially on international 25 flights. 24 1 O. One of them. Then you also have knowledge 2 about Mr. Epstein and some relationship with Mr. Epstein. 3 A. Correct. 4 O. Are there any other pilots, aircraft 5 technicians, people like that that you know of to have a 6 relationship with both Mr. Wexner and Epstein? A. No, no. 8 O. Do you know how Mr. Wexner met Mr. Epstein? 9 A. No. to O. How long - if you started in 1988 • how long 11 did you stay with Mr. Wexner and/or The Limited? 12 A. January of '01. 13 O. Why did you stop? 14 A. Because what we were talking before, you 15 know, I wanted to continue flying. They bought a 16 BBJ. which is a two-pilot aircraft, and I wanted to 17 continue flying. Mr. Epstein bought the 727 and 18 offered me a position to continue flying and. you 19 know, basically sot up the airplane for his flight 20 department because they hadn't had any previous large 21 aircraft experience. 22 O. I missed something. It wasn't your fault, it 23 was mine. 24 The Gulf stream that you were talking about. 25 did you used to fly that as well as being a flight S ESQUIRE Alemadet 0•11•Canspny Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181387
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 B 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 25 technician? A. No, no. O. Okay. A. You don't have to have a flight - a pilot's certificate to be a professional flight engineer. I've got a turbo - a flight engineer turbo jet rating, but you don't have to have a commercial ticket as long as you - the FAA recognizes your heavy aircraft maintenance experience. 0. So you're saying that if the FAA recognizes your heavy maintenance experience, I'm assuming that means that you understand the ins and outs of airplanes and you can work on them. A. On heavy high performance aircraft, yes. 0. Then you can also fly them? A. Sideways as a flight engineer. 0. Explain. A. On the older generation airliners there was three pilots • there's a captain, a first officer, and then the flight engineer is the gentleman that sits sideways and maintains all the systems. 0. When you say, sits sideways: okay, I have A. Literally, you're physically sideways in 27 1 0. Do you know why Epstein those to buy that 2 particular 727 rather than one of the other million 727s 3 that are made? 4 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 5 A. Because it was probably the finest one out 6 there •- 7 0. Why? 8 A. -- In all honesty. It's got a fully Paged 9 STC interior with EFTS cockpit, and Limited's 10 reputation on the way that we maintained our aircraft 11 • it's the best one out there. 12 0. Describe for me the interior • I'm not talking 13 about the Epstein days, we're talking about the Wexner 14 days - describe for me the interior of the aircraft, and 15 keep in mind that I've only been on a commercial aircraft 16 where you don't see the pilots. there's a door, and then 17 everybody, you know, there's rust a bunch of seats where 18 everybody sits there. 19 A. Correct. Right. 20 The aircraft You enter the airplane. 21 ifs got forward air stays, which most 72Ts don't, 22 so you enter the forward door on the left-hand side, 23 the forward entryway vestibule, and there's a door on 24 the left, which leads to the cockpit, and then 25 there's a door on the right which leads aft to the 26 1 the cockpit. 2 0. So you're not looking al the people that were 3 flying on the plane and you're not looking at the pilots, 4 you're actually literally sitting sideways. 5 A. I sit sideways at a panel, yes. 6 0. What's your job? 7 A. Maintain all the aircraft systems - the 8 hydraulics, fuel management, pressurization. 9 environmental controls. 10 0. That's not done by the pilots. 11 A. No, no. 12 O. But if you've done that long enough and FAA is 13 aware of your credentials in that respect, then you also 14 could be credentialed to be a pilot as well? 15 A. Well, sure, yeah, yeah. If that's a 16 career choice you wish to take. 17 0. And was that? A. No, no. I was perfectly satisfied with my 19 position as a flight engineer and Director of 20 Maintenance. 21 0. What year did you say Epstein bought the 727 22 that was once owned by Wexner? 23 A. I don't know when the actual transition 24 took place, but when I came - shortly around the 25 period that I came on board in 'et January of '01. 28 1 forward salon. 2 0. What's the forward salon? Sorry. 3 A. Forward seating area. 4 0. And is it set up basically the way that I'm 5 picking it - in that there are 25 or 26 rows and they're 6 numbered A through E? 7 A. No, no, it's a corporate configuration. 8 O. Which means nothing to me, so help me. 9 A. Picture a 600-mile an hour Winnebago. I 10 mean, it's got conference tables and divans and large 11 first class seating. 12 0. Any various dividers throughout -- 13 A. Yes. 14 0. to where there's a VIP room in the back or 15 anything like that? 16 A. It's compartmentized (sic), yes. 17 0. In what way? Describe it as specifically as 18 you can. 19 A. There's a forward salon, a mid galley - 20 the galley's in the mid - an aft • an aft salon, 21 which is • and then the aft slate room. 22 0. Who designed that plane? 23 A. I can't remember who the actual designer 24 was. It was a Page interior, though. Page Avjet did 25 the installation. • ESQUIRE as AI nailerGslisteisay Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutionS.Com EFTA00181388
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 29 O. Who directed the design of that plane? 2 A. It would have been Mr. Wexner. I mean, it was •• The layout has not changed. 4 O. 'The layout has not changed," when you say that, you mean 'from the time that I first got in it and () I was under the guise of -'under 'under the employment of Wexner to the time I've been on it since with Epstein, a the configuration is the same.' 9 A. Essentially, yes. We removed one chair 10 and one small table that was an annoyance and that's 11 it, but it's identical to what The Limited used. 12 O. Are there any blocked ott areas to where if 13 you're standing in the middle of the plane you cant see 14 certain areas of the plane? 15 A. There are pocket bulkheads. Yeah, there's 16 dividers between the sections. 17 O. How big aro these dividers and where are they? 18 A. Well, there's a divider - the forward 19 door, I you, on the salon, then there's a pocket 20 door on the forward side of the galley, a pocket door 21 on the aft side of the galley, there's a pocket door 22 between the aft salon and the office, and then 23 there's another pocket door between the office and 24 the state room. 25 O. Have you been on other 727s before that are 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 IS 36 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 31 because obviously there's a lot - there's not that A. Privately owned 727s, but this is As a matter of fact. The UmIted's current 88..i nis a very similar floor plan. O. As Trump's? A. No. as the - as our 727. O. Who's 'our? A. Mr. Epstein's. They didn't change a lot. It's - O. Well, I thought that you had told me that the 727 that was once owned by Wexner is the 727 that's owned by Epstein. A. It is. but what I'm saying is even their current airplane has the same layout - the 86J. They put the same floor plane in the more modern airplane. O. Well, they didn't have to put it there. It was already there. right? A. No. no, no. When you buy these aircraft - even a Gulfstream - when you buy them it's just a green hull, there's nothing in them, and you can customize your interior. O. I'm sorry, we're miscommunicating somewhere, and I'm sure it's on me. MR. GOLDBERGER: Yes. it is. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 30 commercial airliners privately owned? A. Yes, yes. O. Have you noticed similar configurations to where there are this many dividing doors or is this one that has more so than you've seen in the past? A. No, no, this is pretty atypical (sic). O. It's pretty atypical? A. It's typical. O. It's pretty typical? A. Yes, yes. O. So what other airplanes - 727s, or other major airplanes - have you been on that have theSe types of dividers? A. Trump. O. Trump's airplane? A. Yes. O. Why were you on Trump's airplane? A. Well, I know the crew and, you know, this Is a small-knit community. There's not very many of them out there, so everybody in this world knows one another to help one another out as far as -- O. By 'there' -- A. -- information-wise and stuff. O. By 'there aren't that many of these people out there," you don't mean there's not that many people - 32 1 MR. EDWARDS: And I'm taking the blame for 2 it - right away. 3 MR. REtNHART: Take that Ed. 4 MR. EDWARDS: Alright 5 BY MR. EDWARDS: 6 O. My understanding • and please correct me when 7 I'm wrong, because I know I am - Wexner has this 727 and 8 he designs it in a certain way. 9 A. Uh-huh. 10 O. And then you come to work for Epstein 11 A. Yes. 12 O. -- who buys the same 727. Your testimony, as 13 I'm understanding It. is: It's basically the same floor 14 plan as Wexner's floor plan. To me, it should be the 15 exact same because he bought the same plane. 16 A. No. he -- You're misunderstanding. 17 I figured. IS What I was stating is You were I was 19 answering the question in regards to, "Is this 20 unusual to have this many compartments and closed 21 doors and bulkheads and things?' 22 What I was trying to state was: No, it's 23 not unusual - because The Limited even liked the 24 floor plan so well in their old airplane that they 25 sold to Mr. Epstein. They duplicated it In their new Q. A. S ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: warn • • • EFTA00181389
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 33 1 airplane - see what I'm saying? That's all I was 2 O. So they didn't keep the floor plan. They 3 actually took it out and they restructured the floor plan 4 to basically match that old floor plan. A. Well, no. When you -- When you buy a 6 Boeing business jet — 7 O. Yes. 8 A. -- it comes with nothing inside. It's a 9 tube. Nothing's in there. You design - have 10 designers design your interior and then a fabricator 11 or a facility such as Page Avjet to install this 12 interior. 13 O. Right. 14 A. What I was just trying to state was that 15 The Limited liked their old floor plan in the old 16 airplane so well - it worked so well for them - that 17 they duplicated It and had that same interior 18 installed in the new aircraft - same floor plan 19 installed on the new plan. 20 O. So Epstein didn't buy the exact same plane. 21 He bought the same type of plane. 22 A. Well, more modem. He bought a 737, 23 right. 24 O. Got it. 25 A. Right. 35 1 had a very identical or very like floor plan 2 installed in the new airplane. 3 Q. Got it. 4 Okay? Sony, it's a strange business. 5 It's 6 O. Tell me if I'm right: Mr. Wexner had a plane 7 that had a floor plan that apparently appealed to Mr. 8 Epstein, so Mr. Epstein bought that plane. 9 A. Correct. 10 O. Mr. Wexner also liked that plane that he had 11 just sold to Mr. Epstein, so he built in a floor plan 12 very similar to the one he just sold to Mr. Epstein. 13 A. In his new aircraft. 14 O. Brand new plane. 15 A. Correct. 16 O. Got it. We're on the same page now. 17 A. Alright. 18 O. Took us a while to get there. 19 A. Yeah, sorry. 20 O. I think it was my fault, honestly, but 21 alright? 22 A. It's an unusual process if you haven't 23 been around corporate airplanes. 24 O. I didn't realize that Mr. Wexner had a new 25 plane. 34 1 MR. REINHART: Hold on. 2 BY MR. EDWARDS: 3 O. Totally understand now. 4 MR. REINHART: Can you clarify - Mr. Epstein or Mr. Wexner? 6 BY MR. EDWARDS: 7 O. Mr. Epstein bought not Mr. Wexner's plane. 8 A. No. 9 O. He bought the same type of plane that Mr. 10 Wexner had and modeled the floor plan -- 11 A. No. 12 O. -- the same way that Mr. Wexner had it. 13 A. That is not correct. 14 O. He bought, actually, Mr. Epstein -- 15 MR. REINHART: Hold on. Distinguish - 16 Use names so we're very clear when you're 17 talking about Mr. Epstein and Mr. Wexner, okay? 18 A. Mr. Epstein bought Mr. Wexner's 727. 19 O. Okay. 20 A. The actual airplane - bought it from him. 21 O. Which has a floor plan already in it. 22 A. That we just discussed. 23 O. Alright. The floor plan's in the plane. 24 A. Right. Mr. Wexner replaced the airplane 25 that Mr. Epstein bought with a new airplane and he 36 1 A. Yes. 2 O. That's where I had a problem. 3 How many times have you been on Mr. Wexner's 4 airplane? A. The new? 6 MR. REINHART: Clarify which one you're 7 talking about. 8 BY MR. EDWARDS: 9 O. Before you ever met Mr. Epstein. 10 A. I can't say. I mean, over the years? 11 O. Numerous times? 12 A. Oh, I was his flight engineer. You mean 13 when I was still employed by him? 14 O. Yes. 15 A. Yes. I was the flight engineer. I 16 don't -- 17 O. So as a flight engineer, every time the plane 18 leaves the ground, do you leave the ground with it? 19 A. No. We had another engineer also. 20 O. So what percentage of times do you leave the 21 ground in the airplane when the plane leaves the ground? 22 A. For who? 23 O. For Mr. Wexner. 24 A. Probably one-third of the time, because I 25 was also the lead technician, so I had • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com EFTA00181390
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 37 1 responsibilities in the hangar, whereas the other 2 engineer was a full time engineer. 3 O. And given the partitions that you've described 4 in this airplane, are you able to see what's going on s behind the doors of the various partitions of the 6 airplane? 7 A, If the doors are open or dosed? a O. Closed. 9 A. No. 10 O. Do you have any idea what's taking place in 11 there? 12 A. No. 13 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 14 BY MR. EDWARDS: 15 O. When you're on the plane with Mr. Wexner. was 16 there a time that he had — Wet let me put it this way: 17 When anybody is a passenger on any of these private 18 planes. should there be logs of the names of the 19 passengers on the planes? 20 A. Not required, no. 21 O. Are you ever specifically instructed not to 22 record the names? 23 A. That wasn't part of my duties. That 24 wasn't an engineer's task, but - 25 O. Do you — 3 9 1 A. There is normally a passenger manifest, 2 yes. 3 Q. Who creates the manifest? 4 A. Probably dispatch. 5 Q. Dispatch? 6 A. At Limited. 7 O. Do you know who that is? 8 MR. REINHART: Can you give a time frame? 9 Do you mean currently or back when he worked 10 there? 11 MR. EDWARDS: I'm talking about back when 12 he worked there. 13 BY MR. EDWARDS: 14 O. Do you know who that was at dispatch? is A. That would have been Diane Williams. 16 O. Who does Diane Williams work tor? 17 A. Limited Flight Department. 18 O. Who does she report to? 19 A. Tim Staley. 20 O. Who's Tim Staley? 21 A. Director of Operations. 22 O. For who? 23 A. Limited Flight Department. 24 O. What does he then do with that information? 25 A. I don't know. I don't know. 38 1 A. no, not that rm aware of. 2 O. Who is assigned the duty of reporting the 3 names of the people who are going to be transported on 4 the airplanes? MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 6 A. Captain. 7 Q. So have you ever been privy to conversations 8 where the captain is told by Mr. Wexner to record all of 9 the names of the people that are going to be on the 2o airplane? 11 A. Can't say. 12 Q. Sometimes? 13 A. I can't - You know. I can't say. I can't 14 remember what our policies were at the time. 15 O. I'm not asking policies. I'm asking: Have 16 you ever been around when the pilot was being instructed 17 by Mr. Wexner • back in the late 80s, early '90s - to 18 make sine that you record who's on this aircraft? 19 A. I never heard Mr. Wexner address that, no. 20 O. I mean, God forbid the airplane crashes, you 21 would like to know who's the on the airplane, right? 22 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 23 A. Yes. 24 O. Is there any way to determine who's on each 25 particular flight in case anything happens? 40 1 O. Have you ever talked to Tim Staley? 2 A. From -- Yes, yes. 3 O. And what do you talk to him about? 4 A. Oh. we're - we're friends. We worked 5 together for years. I mean, I haven't talked to him 6 since the holidays. 7 Q. DO you know where he is now? 8 A. To the best of my knowledge, still 9 Director of Operations at Limited. 10 O. Do you have a number for him? 11 A. Yes. 12 O. Can I have the number, please? 13 A. It's 14 O. Is that a work number? 15 A. That's the Flight Department. 16 Q. That's the best number to reach him at? 17 A. Yes. 18 O. If I'm going to call him, that's the number I 19 call? 20 A. Correct. 21 O. And was he always in charge of flight 22 directions? 23 A. No, he was previously Chief Pilot. 24 O. He was previously Chief Pilot for Limited? 25 A. Same, yes. ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181391
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 41 1 O. And he was promoted, I suppose. to Flight 2 Director? 3 A. Director of Operations. It's the 4 department crew. Most small departments don't have 5 directors until they start to grow. 6 Q. And when he was Chief Pilot were you 7 affiliated with the Wexner organization? 8 A. Yes, I was a maintenance technician. 9 Q. And when you say somebody keeps flight logs. 10 is it always Tim - is his name Tim Staley? 11 A. Yes. 12 O. is it always Tim Staley who does that? 13 A. No. I don't know where they go. honestly, 14 and the system may have changed. 15 Q. Okay. Are you 16 A. I've been gone since -- 17 O. Are you aware of any FAA policies to where 18 they need to know who's on the aircraft whenever it talks 19 off? 20 A. Not under Pad 91 Operations, there is 21 not. 22 O. Part what? 23 A. Part 91. 24 O. What does Pad 91 say as far as you know? 25 A. It's basically souls on board when you 43 1 international. The only time we do international 2 would be for Customs and Immigration. 3 O. So if it's an international flight -- 4 A. For Customs and Immigration • for coming 5 and leaving the country. 6 O. - then they require that names of 7 individuals -- 8 A. It would be names, passports, that kind of 9 stuff • normal. 10 O. Did you ever do any international flights 11 while employed by The Limited, Victoria's Secret, the 12 whole Wexner group? 13 A. Yes. 14 O. How many? 15 A. No way of knowing. I mean, I'm - can't 16 say. It's, like I Say, years, but. 17 Q. What years would you done it? 18 A. Started flying as a flight mechanic in 19 '89, and then started flying the Boeing in '99, so - 20 to '01, 80'89 to '01, haSirally. 21 (Mr. Goldberger exited.) 22 BY MR. EDWARDS: 23 O. So '89 to '01. if I wanted all of the flight 24 logs, who would I request those from - Tim Staley? 25 A. Don't know. I don't know who -- 42 1 file a flight plan - that's the only thing you're 2 required to do. When you file your flight plan you 3 file souls on board. 4 O. What does that mean, "souls on board'? 5 A. In other words, living bodies on board. 6 In other words, if you have - so if there's an 7 accident and you have lour and you're transporting a e cadaver, that they go to the accident scene and don't 9 find five bodies • think there were five fatalities. 10 Q. So it's your understanding from what you need 11 to report are, 'I have five people on board.' 12 A. Correct, and that's for the flight plan. 13 O. So there's no reason to say that, 1 have Joe 14 Schmo on board.' 15 A. Not under Part 91, no. 16 O. That's doing something over and above. 17 A. That's correct. 18 O. You are aware, though, that there are certain 19 flight plans where they actually name individuals that 20 are on the airplane? 21 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form, 22 A. No. 23 O. I mean, you've seen that before. 24 MR. GOLDBERGER: Form. 25 A. No, not on flight plans, no - unless it's 44 1 O. What does Tim Staley do after he maintains 2 these records? 3 A. I don't know. 4 O. He's never told you what he does? 5 A. No. 6 Certainly they're kept on file somewhere. right? 8 A. I would assume. 9 O. What's the name of the company that owns the 10 airplanes? I know it's affiliated with Wexner and all 11 that. but what's the name of the company? 12 A. Well, there were several companies. I 13 mean, the way corporate aviation flight departments 14 are set up. they're under holdings companies. 15 O. Ill go with all of them. 16 A. Well, I don't know. They change. They 17 change sometimes by the year, sometimes -- I have no 18 idea what they're under now. 19 Q. What were they under back in '88 -- 20 A. It was like - 21 Q. -- to the best of your memory? 22 A. They change. I mean, every time we got a 23 new aircraft. or whatever, they changed. They were 24 like Northeast Holding, Southwest Holding. LLC • 25 Wilmington, Delaware, companies, which is standard • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: EFTA00181392
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 45 1 for these, you know. 2 Q. Did Wexner ever tell you that he 3 allOwed Jeffrey Epstein to serve in some sort of 4 capacity, representative capacity, for any of these 5 companies? 6 A. No. He would never say that to me 7 anyways, no. 8 O. What's the first time you ever saw Jeffrey 9 Epstein? 10 A. Can't say. I'm not sure. 11 Q. I think you saw him before you started working 12 for him or with him? 13 A. Oh, yeah. that's -- Where I first saw him 14 was when I flew him on The Limited 727. 15 0. What year do you think that was? 16 A. It would have had to have been -- 17 0. Talking late '80s, early '90s? 18 A. Late '90s. 19 0. Late '90s? 20 A. Yeah, probably • mid to late 190s. 21 0. Well, I mean, if you're taken over with 22 Jeffrey Epstein in. what, 2001 — 23 A. Correct. 24 0. — then you're talking late '90s is the first 25 time you see him? 47 1 A. They were -- They were generated, but I 2 don't know, you know, why - what the particular 3 reasoning was for it. 4 0. Do you know if Terry (sic) Staley would have 5 been the one to forward those flight logs to the FAA? 6 A. No. no. no. I -- They were all just for 7 business use - not forwarded to the FAA. 8 0. Okay. How - 9 A. The FM doesn't care about flight logs. to O. How did the FM monitor when that plane took 11 off? 12 A. Flight plans. 13 O. And was It your understanding that when the 14 plane took oft, the FAA was unaware as to who was ever on 15 it? 16 A. Pretty much, yeah. They don't care about 17 names. When you file flight plans with the flight 18 service station or via electronically. all they care 19 about is souls on board, contact information, flight 20 routing, things like that. 21 O. Are there time limits as to when the plane is 22 allowed to take off? 23 A. Yeah. usually From what point? What do 24 you mean? Time of the day or -- 25 0. Yeah. yeah, time of the day. I understand 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 IS 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 46 A. Well, mid -- I don't know exactly. I can't realty say, really. 0. I won't hold you to it. It is what e is. Mid to late '90s. if I wanted the flight logs that have him on it, on the airplane, who would I subpoena to get those records? A. I have no Idea. 0. Are they turned into the FAA. to the best of your knowledge? A. No. the FAA doesn't require them. 0. So FM does not get the flight -- Well, what's the point of even keeping these? A. Sometimes I think the IRS I mean, this is on assumption, I'm not even sure, but mostly for like IRS tracking for if you have people that have dual homes, dual statehoods. or whatever. (Mr. Goldberger entered.) MR. GOLDBERGER: Can we take a time out? (Short break.) (Mr. Pike appeared via telephone to replace Mr. Goldberger.) BY MR. EDWARDS: 0. FM flight logs • do you know why theyre generated, how they're generated, if they were generated back in the Wexner days? 48 1 that there's some time where if it's too late they can't 2 take off, right? 3 A. Only where there's a curfew on the airport 4 - not all airports, no. No, airplanes can fly any 5 time unless that airport has a noise curfew or 6 something, yeah. 7 0. Did you ever know of Wexner's plane to take 8 off after ten o'clock p.m.? 9 A. Yes. Yeah. 10 0. Were you ever an that plane when it did? 11 A. Probably, yeah, yeah. 12 0. Were you ever on that plane when there were 13 girls on the plane? 14 A. Describe Define 'girls.' On the Wexner 15 airplane? 16 0. Yes. 17 A. There would be ladies and his daughters. 18 I mean -- 19 O. Other than family members. 20 A. There would be business associates. If 21 you're talking young women, yes, business associates 22 from the divisions. 23 0. Have you ever been on the plane when there 24 were girlfriends of Wexner? 25 A. Only when Abigail - before his - became 0 ESQUIRE a Altman Coll•Compaar Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquIresolutIons.00m • • • EFTA00181393
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 49 1 his bride, yes. 2 O. How about attar .- 3 A. I mean -- 4 O. -- she became his -- 5 A. it was Abigail. She was the only 6 girlfriend. 7 O. How about after Abigail? 8 A. No. 9 O. Have you ever seen sex or sex-related 10 instances occur on MI Wexner's airplane? 11 A. Absolutely not. We didn't even have 12 playing cards. He looked at the aircraft as a 13 business - a flying business office. 14 O. When you say 'playing cards: what do you 15 mean? 16 A. Playing, you know, to -- 17 O. Oh. playing cards. 18 A. Yes, playing cards. 19 O. So every time that you were on Wexner's 20 airplane, it was used strictly for business? 21 A. Well, I don't know if it was used strictly 22 for business, but there was no, you know, it was — I 23 don't know what the purpose of the actual trip was, 24 but never saw, you know, anything, you know. 25 O. Was there ever a time when you were -- 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 51 O. Yes, with you on it. A. I can't I can't say. O. Well, where do you remember going in it? A. Well, we would normally go to London, Milan. Paris. I mean, mostly fashion areas and business - business areas. O. When you say 'fashion areas,' what do you mean? A. Well, retail. I mean, you know, design for clothing and stuff like that. O. What was the purpose? A. I'm sure it was business. I have no idea what the actual purpose was. I don't — O. Did you get off the plane? A. Well, of course. O. What did you do there? A. Go to a hotel, eat dinner, wait to find out when you're going to the next place. O. Were you ever on an international flight on one of Mr. Wexner's planes that Jeffrey Epstein was also on? A. I can't say. I can't remember. O. Maybe? A. Possibly. O. Do you remember any specific places that 50 1 MR. REINHART: Hold on. Were you 2 finished? 3 BY MR. EDWARDS: 4 O. I thought you were finished. 5 A. Yeah, I don't understand. I don't 6 understand that question. 7 O. I'm going to clarify. Were there ever times 8 when you were on the plane and either MI Wexner 9 and/or other individuals went behind these various areas 10 that you could not see into? 11 A. Yes. Yeah. 12 O. Do you know what they were doing in there? 13 A. Probably sleeping. He would go to bed at 14 night on the long trips, okay. 15 O. Any time that more than one person wont in one 16 of these areas that you would not be able to see into? 17 A. Not that I'm aware of, but my exposure to 18 back there is not that, you know, is limited. 19 O. How many times did you see Jeffrey Epstein 20 ride that plane with Wexner? 21 A. Not many, but I can't say exact. 22 O. How many international flights do you remember 23 that plane taking? 24 A. Remember -- The airplane itself taking 25 international? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 52 Jeffrey Epstein went while on that plane outside the United States? A. I can't remember. No, no. Like I say. I can't even remember if we took it for sure. O. Any time that you remember Jeffrey Epstein being on the airplane, do you also remember there being gins on the airplane along with Mr. Epstein? A. I can't -- I can't say. I can't remember. O. When's the first time you remember seeing Jeffrey Epstein? A. Well, like I say, I don't even remember the year. I can't even pinpoint down to the year. It was after - some time after I started flying the 727, because that's the only exposure. O. Okay. I'm not going to ask you at all during this deposition to guess. I thought at some point in time you told me you remember seeing Jeffrey Epstein, right? A. Yes. O. In fact, you work for him now. A. Yes. O. So at some point in time you saw him and you saw him for the first time. A. Correct. O. When's the first lime you remember seeing him? ESQUIRE ......". Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquIresolutions.com EFTA00181394
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 53 1 It may not be the first time you saw him. When's the 2 first time you remember seeing him? 3 A. '99, somewhere in that area. 4 O. Alright. In '99 were you working tor - 5 Wexner or were you working for Jeffrey Epstein? 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 16 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. Wexner. O. And do you remember the context in which you saw Jeffrey Epstein? A. It was a flight. O. What did I = Wexner ever tell you in terms of who Jeffrey Epstein was? A. Never told me anything who Jeffrey Epstein was. O. Did you ever ask? A. No. O. Did you ever ask back in 1999 when you saw this guy. 'I wonder what he does'? A. No. O. Not even curious? A. No. It's not my place. I don't I don't need to know or want to know what people's associations are. O. Next lime you saw Jeffrey Epstein was when? A. I can't say for sure. O. Have you seen Jeffrey Epstein at 55 I Jeffrey Epstein helped to - I think, what you said was • 2 manage MI Wexner's money? 3 A. Some of his accounts, yes, I guess. 4 O. Why do you think that? 5 A. From what I've read in periodicals and 6 magazines. 7 O. You've read in what periodicals and magazines? A. I think it was, what, Vanity Fair there 9 was an article a couple years back, three or 10 four years back, and a New York magazine as I 11 mentioned. 12 O. Why did you read the article? 13 A. Well, obviously it was dealing with the 14 gentleman that I was working tor. so out of 15 curiosity, you know. 16 O. Right, because people tend to be curious -- 17 A. Right. 18 O. right? But when I lust asked you who 19 Jeffrey Epstein was and the relationship, you said, 'I 20 have no idea,' implying that you weren't curious. But at 21 some point in time you got curious as to who this person 22 is, right? 23 A. Who Jeffrey Epstein is? 24 O. Yes. 25 A. Well, yeah, when you're working for him 54 1 Wexners house? 2 A. No. 3 O. Never? 4 A. Never. I've never - 5 O. Have you ever - 6 A. been to Wexners house. 7 O. You've never been there? A. No. 9 O. Have you ever known of IM Wexner or heard 10 0l- Wexner having minor girls or minor boys at his 11 house? 12 A. Oh, no. 13 O. Have you ever heard of Jeff -- 14 MR. REINHART: I assume, other than his 15 children. 16 MR. EDWARDS: Oh. of course. 17 A. Yeah. No - his children. I'm sorry. Is Thank you. 19 O. Have you ever known of Jeffrey Epstein to take 20 underage girls to Wexner's house? 21 A. No. 22 O. Do you know how it is that Jeffrey Epstein and 23 Wexner not each other? 24 A. No. 25 O. You mentioned earlier that you believed that 56 1 and he's in a magazine, you're going to read the 2 article. 3 O. Okay, so at some point in time, did you Google 4 Jeffrey Epstein? 5 A. No, no. 6 O. Have you read the articles about Jeffrey 7 Epstein? A. Lately? 9 O. Yes. 10 A. Oh, of course, yes, in the newspapers. 11 O. And you're aware of why your deposition's 12 being taken today. 13 A. Yes, of course. 14 O. And it has something to do not with a case 15 with Wexner, but a case involving Jeffrey Epstein. 16 A. Correct. Yes, of course. 17 O. When you got this deposition subpoena, did you 16 by any chance try to look up some information on Jeffrey 19 Epstein • who this guy is? 20 A. No, no. I mean — 21 O. Is there anything 22 MR. REINHART: Hold on. Were you 23 finished? 24 O. Okay. Go ahead. 25 A. No. I mean, other than every once in a ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: I M=M www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181395
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 57 1 while I'll get a Google alert just following the case 2 - just out of interest - because he's still my 3 empioyer, you know, and you don't want to be 4 blind-sided, but other than that, no -- 5 0. When you - 6 A. -- I never looked into his financial 7 background or anything look that. I don't know if 8 you can. 9 0. When you say a toogle alert." that's 10 something that you actually go out of your way and set up 11 on Google, right? 12 A. Yeah. 13 0. When did you do that? 14 A. A year ago or so. 15 0. Why did you do it? 16 A. Because I'm not around Mr. Wexner - or Mr. 17 Epstein anymore. I don't -- 18 0. Wel, he was in jail -- 19 MR. REINHART: Hold on. Were you finished 20 with your answer? 21 A. I haven't been a full time employee with 22 Mr. Wexner since -- 23 MR. REINHART: Epstein. 24 By MR. EDWARDS: 25 0. Epstein or Wexner? 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 59 0. When you say last pace' how often are you flying? A. Every week - sometimes two, three times a week. 0. And that's by the time that you're working for Jeffrey Epstein? A. Yes, yes. 0. Because back in the MI Wexner days you weren't flying every day. A. No, no, no, because there was another engineer, no. 0. Right. A. I had about one-third of the flights. 0. So from 1988. when you start working with Wexner, through '89 or so. you're not flying all the time, right? A. No. Oh, no, no. Actually, in '88, I was, you know, I was - my primary duties were in the hangar - maintenance. 0. Did you enjoy doing that? A. The maintenance part of it? 0. Yes. A. Oh, yeah, that's my background, that's my forte. 0. Is that something that you've gone back to? 58 1 A. I'm sorry -- Mr. Epstein. since February 2 of 2007. 3 0. Well, a lot of that has to do with him being 4 incarcerated -- 5 A. No. no. 6 0. -- for a year, right? 7 MR. PIKE: Form. 8 A. No, it was because I wanted to make a job 9 - a career change. 10 Q. Why? 11 A. Because I got tired of flying, being on 12 the road, wanted to be home. 13 O. Did it bother you that your boss, back in 14 2007, was under investigation? 15 A. Of course. 16 0. Is that part of the reason why maybe you 17 wanted to make a career change? 18 A. No, no. The reason was the amount of 19 (tying that I had been doing and the ovemights, and 20 when something's no longer fun, it's time to find 21 something else to do. 22 0. Why wasn't it fun anymore? 23 A. It's a very fast pace. I wanted to spend 24 time at home. I wanted to get back into strictly 25 maintenance. 60 1 A. Yes. 2 0. When did you go back to that? 3 A. February ol 4 0. Who are you doing that for? A. Dankjold Reed Aviation. 6 0. Say it again. 7 A. Dankjold Reed Aviation. 8 0. How did you get that fob? 9 A. Applied for it and knew the previous 10 Director of Maintenance, who was retiring. 11 0. Did MI Wexner and/or Mr. Epstein help you 12 to get that job? 13 A. No, no ties whatsoever. 14 0. So who introduces you to Jeffrey Epstein? 15 A. Probably it would have been Lany. The 16 first actual formal introduction? 17 0. Right. 18 A. Probably would have been Larry Visoski. I 19 knew Larry and Dave when they flew for Glimcher 20 Corporation. 21 0. Tell me a little bit about that. Larry 22 Visoski - how do you know him? 23 A. He's the Chief Pilot for Jeffrey and hired 24 me. 25 0. Well, he's the Chief Pilot now -- ESQUIRE .A““& AU“fl., Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquIreso l utions.com EFTA00181396
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 61 1 A. Right. 2 O. for Jeffrey Epstein. 3 A. Right. 4 O. When Is the first time you met Larry Visoski? 5 A. It was before he worked for Jeffrey. He 6 and Dave were flying for a gentleman - Glimcher 7 Corporation. 8 O. Flying for who? 9 A. Glimcher Corporation. 10 O. How do you spell that? 11 A. G-L-I-M-C-H-E-R, I think. They were -- 12 They had an airplane based at Lane Aviation in 13 Columbus with us. 14 O. And David Rodgers? 15 A. Yes. 16 O. How did you know David Rodgers? 17 A. Same, from -- They were in the same hangar 18 we were in. 19 O. Are you from here? 20 A. No. 21 O. Where are you from? 22 A. Columbus. Ohio. 23 O. So you're from Columbus, Ohio, and that's also 24 a place where MI Wexner lives. 25 A. Yes. 63 1 Q. How did you learn of Wexner? 2 A. Oh, I mean, he's very well-known m 3 Columbus, because, you know, billionaires in central 4 Ohio, aren't, you know -- 5 O. Aren't a dime a dozen, right? 6 A. Exactly, and small guy that made it big, 7 you know, because that's where the name Limited - so 8 hearsay is - the name Limited came from he started 9 with limited resources. 10 a So did you know him before he was maned to 11 Abigail? 12 A. Yes. 13 O. And did you know him to date exclusively women 19 priortoMM? 15 A. The only -- I knew that he was dating 16 Sharon. 17 O. Right. 18 A. I never flew Sharon, but he dated Sharon 19 for a long time, and then there was, you know, they 20 broke up and then he started dating Abigail. 21 O. And have you heard any rumors about him dating 22 men as well? 23 A. No, no. 24 O. First time that you're hearing about it is me 25 telling you that, right? 62 1 O. So that was at least convenient for you? 2 A. Oh, yeah. No, it was -- Yeah. 3 O. Did you go to college in Ohio as well? 4 A. Yes. Columbus State for my Aviation s degree. 6 O. As your first job that you had, was that with 7 Wexner? a A. Oh, no. I started working for Ohio State 9 University -- 10 O. And then where? 11 A. -- in their flight department. 12 Went from Ohio State University to get a 13 short stint. a contract maintenance for a - a 14 contract for NASA at Langley - researcher, and then 15 that was under the direction - that was contracted 16 under OSU's umbrella for airport research. They had 17 an Aviation Research Department. Then after that 18 went to Red Roof Inns - maintenance technician for 19 Red Root Inns. 20 O. What was it - Gregory Finns? 21 A. No, Red Roof Inns. 22 O. Red Roof Inns. 23 A. True Sports Racing. It was Budweiser 24 racing - Indy car team and Red Roof Inns, the motel 25 chain. Then from there I went to The Limited stores. 64 1 A. Yeah. 2 O. So back to Larry Visoski - you don't know him 3 while you're employed with Wexner. 4 A. Yes. 5 O. You do? 6 A. Yeah. 7 O. How do you meet him? 8 A. Met him because their aircraft was in our 9 hangar. The Glimcher aircraft was based in our 10 hangar and got to know him that way. 11 O. Glimcher is a company owned by whom? 12 A. I don't know if it's public or not. It 13 was a mall development company not associated with 14 Limited. 15 O. So what's the conversation between you and 16 Larry Visoski? Obviously you all end up working for 17 Epstein, so try to lead me through that. 18 A. Well, I think I mean, we got to know -- 19 I mean, you're neighbors in a hangar environment, so 20 you have discussions. 21 Larry was the mechanic. He was also 22 pilot/mechanic on the Hawker for Clincher, and you 23 kind of form a relationship and a rapport, and then, 24 I believe, Clincher sold their airplane. I don't 25 know how Dave and Larry ended up with Jeffrey, I ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181397
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • 65 1 don't know how they found that job, but they started 2 working for Jeffrey then, but they still -- 3 O. Did you ask them? 4 A. No, I don't think -- I've never asked S them, *How — 6 O. Did Jeffrey -- 7 A. -- did you meet them?' 8 O. -- have a plane in the same hangar? 9 MR. REINHART: Hold on. Let him finish 10 his answer. 11 MR. EDWARDS: I'm sorry. I thought you 12 were finished. 13 MR. PIKE: This is Michael Pike. Let him 14 finish his question because, keep in mind • you 15 finish your question, let him finish his answer 16 - keep in mind, I'm on the phone, so I'm having 17 a hard time heating his response in the 18 background. 19 MR. EDWARDS: You're actually on the other 20 end of the table. Do you want us to try to move 21 the phone closer? 22 MR. PIKE: Yes, that would be good. 23 MR. EDWARDS: I'll do that for you, man. 24 I'm sorry, I really did forget that you were 25 here. 67 1 help them with the airplane, get, you know, become a 2 flight engineer • Director of Maintenance - on it. 3 O. SO is Larry also an Ohio person? 4 A. Well, he wasn't — I think he was born and 5 raised in South Florida and then he was in Ohio for 6 that job. He lived there for a short period, yeah, 7 for Glimcher. 8 O. And then David Rodgers also? 9 A. They both lived in Columbus. yeah. I 1 o mean, I don't know if it was a suburb, but they lived 11 in central Ohio. 12 O. But the hangar we're talking about is in Ohio. 13 A. Yeah, Lane Aviation. 14 O. You would see them basically on a day-to-day 15 basis because the aircraft that you were a technician 16 for -- 17 A. Right. 18 O. -- was very close in proximity to the aircraft 19 that they were piloting. 20 A. Yes. 21 O. They approach you at some point in time and 22 say what specifically? 23 A. I can't remember the specific 24 conversations, but it was like, you know, asked me if 25 I would be interested in. if Jeffrey bought the 727 66 1 MR. PIKE: Not a problem. I've objected 2 to form a couple of times. I'm not quite sure 3 If that was oven heard, but that's neither hero 4 nor there. 5 MR. EDWARDS: We'll say the last ten 6 questions you chiseled to form. I got you. 7 What was my last question, Pike? You 8 don't even remember. 9 MR. REINHART: You asked him conversations 10 he had with Larry Visoski and Dave Rodgers about 11 how they come came to work for Epstein. 12 MR. EDWARDS: Good. 13 A. I really never queried them on how they 14 come to work for Jeffrey. I think Dave was hired 15 first and he brought • this is all speculation • and, 16 I think, he brought Larry on board. 17 O. So as far as you know, however you know, David 18 Rodgers was the first Epstein contact and then Larry 19 Visoski rode it in. 20 A. The way I understand. yeah. 21 O. How did you become Involved in the 22 three-person train to Epstein? 23 A. When it became apparent that Jeffrey, or 24 Mr. Epstein. was going to buy the 727. Larry 25 approached me. that if I would want to. you know, 68 1 being. you know, the flight engineer and help them, 2 you know, gel the flight department going. and I told 3 them I would. 4 O. And why did you say 'yes' considering that you 5 had a boss in Wexner who was seemingly pretty good 6 to you for the last ten years? 7 A. Oh, he's excellent. 8 O. Yes. 9 A. No, fine flight department and Mr. Wexner 10 is a fine person. 11 O. Right. 12 A. The reason being is. you know, I already 13 stated this I think twice before, was that I wanted 14 to be able to continue to fly and that would give me 15 the opportunity lo continue to fry as a flight 16 engineer and the challenge of starting this airplane. 17 O. Right. I didn't ignore you. I heard you say is trial but then I also heard you say he brought a brand 19 new plane. 20 A. It was only a two-man airplane -- 21 O. So then he would have -- 22 A. and the modern aircraft could only have 23 two pilots, right. 24 O. Got you. I understand. 25 So they approach you with this prospect of the • ESQUIRE aAkAaaNtOW•Camm” Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquIresolutions.com EFTA00181398
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 69 1 two of them - Dave Rodgers and Larry Visoski • becoming 2 the pilots for the 727 .- 3 A. Correct 4 O. that Epstein's buying and, 'Hey. would you s like to be a pan of it?' 6 A. Right. 7 O. I mean, that's the gist of it. 8 A. Correct, that would be the gist of it. 9 O. And your response was? 10 A. Yes, I would • you know, n it came to be 11 I would consider it. Obviously, you know, salary had 12 to come in and everything else, but I said• *Yeah, I 13 would be interested in it? 14 O. What's the next conversation that you had and 15 with whom? 16 A. I don't know. There were several 17 conversations, but they were all with Dave and Larry 18 both, you know, calling back and forth, but. 19 O. About what? Was it about salary, about the 20 position? 21 A. Salary, what the benefits were, you know. 22 stuff like that. No. the position was pretty much 23 defined. I mean, it's the flight engineer. Director 24 of Maintenance position. 25 O. And this brings us up in our timeline to 2001, 71 1 I don't know. I don't know. 2 O. I mean, how did she get on his private 3 airplane? I would imagine strangers don't Just walk on, 4 right? 5 A. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know what 6 people's associations are together when, you know. 7 O. Okay. $ A. I don't know it it's business association, 9 social associations, or what. 10 O. How many times - 11 MR. PIKE: Let me object to the form of 12 that question. 13 MR. EDWARDS: Okay. Noted. 14 BY MR. EDWARDS: 15 O. How many times was she on that airplane when 16 it was owned by Wexner? 17 A. Not many, but I can't give you an exact. 18 O. Was she ever naked on the airplane? 19 A. Not that I'm aware of. 20 O. I mean, that's something that you would 21 probably remember, right? 22 A. Well -- 23 MR. PIKE: Form. 24 A. Yeah. I mean -- 25 O. I'm not really trying to be funny, but I would A. 70 1 you think? 2 A. Correct, that's when I hired on and 3 actually moved to Florida was January 2001. 4 O. Prior to 2001, had you heard the name 5 Ghlsiaine Maxwell? 6 A. Yes. 7 O. How would you have heard Ghislaine Maxwell? 8 A. She had been a passenger on the 727 once 9 Or tWiCe. 10 0. The 727. I mean? 11 A. When it was under Limited. 12 O. Yeah, yeah, that's the point I'm trying to 13 make. I mean, this could get confusing on the record. 14 It's not confusing to me. but on the record it could be 15 because the 727 was Wexner's, then it was Epstein, so 16 you're talking about -- 17 A. When it was under Mr. Wexner's control. 18 0. What year do you think that was? 19 A. It would have been in the late '90s. 20 Again, like I say, when - probably some time around 21 the time • you know, had to be late '90s -- 22 O. Did she -- 23 A. -- maybe 2000. 24 O. Did she seem like a friend of Wexner's 25 to you? 72 1 assume I would remember it. 2 A. Not that I'm aware of. 3 O. Do you remember her bringing other gkls on 4 the airplane with her? • A. No. 6 O. You remember her getting on the airplar e 7 alone? • A. I can't say for sure. 9 O. Alright. Maybe this will jog your -- 10 A. I mean, the was never just alone-alone. 11 Like the only passenger or. 12 O. Yes. 13 A. No. no. always with - when other people 14 were on board. 15 O. And you just cant remember whether she 16 brought on board with her a male or a female: is what 17 you're saying, right? 18 A. No, I mean -- Restate the question. How 19 did you -- 20 O. Sony. 21 A. Delinealone? 22 O. I dont mean, you know, it there's 15 23 passengers and she gets on. I'm saying Do you remember 24 her getting on and being accompanied by • either they 25 took the same car to the airport, they walked the runway ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquIresotutions.com • • • EFTA00181399
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 73 1 up to the airport? Do you remember her being with 2 somebody else? 3 A. If it would have been, would have been Mr. 4 Epstein. never -- 5 O. How many times do you think Mr. Epstein was on 6 that airplane? 7 A. I can't say for sure - not that many. 8 O. Less than live? 9 A. That I saw him, yes, probably. 10 O. And how many times of all - 11 MR. REINHART: Can I just clarify? You 12 mean during the time Mr. Wexner owned the 13 plane -- 14 MR. EDWARD$: Right, right, right. 15 MR. REINHART: — since Mr. Epstein bought 16 the plane. 17 BY MR. EDWARDS: 18 O. Alright. We're not up to the point. we're 19 about to be. but we're not up to the point yet where Mr. 20 Epstein takes control, so. 21 A. I mean, you have to understand, Mr. - 22 during this time period. Mr. Epstein had his other • 23 he already owned his other airplane. 24 O. How did you know that? 25 A. Well, because that's what Larry and Dave 75 1 A. Maybe mid-'90, early '90. 2 O. We're talking -- 3 A. He didn't have that plane very long. 4 O. Between '90 and '93. you're saying. 5 A. Probably, yes. 6 O. And between '90 and '93, if we use those 7 years, you're familiar with the name 'Jeffrey Epstein' A. Not until later when he bought the 9 Gullstream in - later when he was, you know, like I 10 said, late '90, probably. 11 O. But you're aware that David Rodgers and 12 Visoski are flying an airplane between '90 and '93 that's 13 owned by somebody. 14 A. Correct. Yeah. 15 O. But you don't know the name of the person -- 16 A. Correct. Right. 17 O. -- that is the owner. We're good. We're on le the same page. 19 '88. you start working for Wexner. 20 A. Right. 21 O. And the first time Epstein is on 22 Wexner's airplane is approximately when? 23 MR. REINHART: It's asked and answered. 24 BY MR. EDWARDS: 25 O. That you remember. 74 1 were flying - the Gulfstream. 2 O. But this is something you found out 3 afterwards. 4 A. No. no. I knew that they had gotten a job 5 with him and they were flying the Guffstream. 6 O. Alright. Let me clarify this real quickly. 7 You got the job in 1988 with Wexner. A. Right. 9 O. Right. Larry Visoski and David Rodgers are 10 flying a plane that is presumably owned by Jeffrey 11 Epstein and/or one of his corporations. 12 A. N0t at first. 13 O. At some point in lime. 14 A. Correct. 15 O. And what point in time do you become aware 16 that that'8 happening? 17 A. I can't remember exactly when they bought 18 the Gulfstream. They actually had a Hawker for a 19 shod period. I don't know when that was. 20 O. Was that also owned by Jeffrey Epstein? 21 A. Fora very short period, and he traded it. 22 O. The first Epstein plane that you're aware of 23 is that Visoski and Rodgers are on -- 24 A. Was a Hawker. 25 O. -- was approximately what year? 76 1 MR. REINHART: Asked and answered. 2 A. I can't - The only time I would remember 3 - we've already answered this several times - was in 4 the late '90s when I was actually on the airplane. I 5 have no idea if he was on previous times without me 6 there. 7 O. And when he is on the airplane. is he on the 8 airplane with young girls? 9 MR. REINHART: it's also been asked and 10 answered. 11 A. No. 12 O. Now we're back to Ghislaine Maxwell, and I 13 believe your answer - which led me back to these 14 questions that I had previously asked. 'Was Ghislaine 15 Maxwell on the airplane that Wexner owned that you know 16 of?' • and I think your answer was. 'With Epsten." 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 A. I would - I would say if she was on 19 there, it would be with him. I never knew - I would 20 not think that she would fly on it without Mm. 21 O. Do you specifically remember her on the 22 airplane with him? 23 A. Can't say - I can't. 24 O. On any of these flights that Jeffrey Epstein 25 and/or Maxwell was on, did they fly internationally? • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresoiutions.corn EFTA00181400
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 77 1 A. I know I brought her back one tine from 2 England. I believe • I remember that • from London. 3 Q. Brought Maxwell back from London. and was she 4 alone then? 5 A. I can't -- I can't say. I can't remember. 6 O. I thought you said that if she was on the 7 plane it wouldn't have been alone. 8 A. More than likely she would have been with 9 Jeffrey. 10 0. So do you think that you brought Maxwell and 11 Jeffrey together back from London? 12 A. More than likely, but I can't say for 13 sure. I can't remember if he was on that flight. 14 O. To the best of your recollection right now, as 15 we sit here, is that Maxwell was on the plane and Epstein 16 may or may not have been? 17 A. Correct. That's correct. 18 Q. What year are we taking about and whose 19 airplane are we talking about? 20 A. That would have been when the 727 was 21 still Limited - or Wexner. 22 Q. And that would have been around what year? 23 A. 2000. maybe. 24 0. 2000? 25 A. '99, something like that. 79 1 the Court to be well aware that not all of my form objections are corning through the 3 telephone. 4 MR. EDWARDS: Mike. how about this, of all 5 of the people involved, I think that you know 6 you can trust me here: II you say when wo read 7 this back that you wanted a form objection, I'll 8 put it on the record right now you get it • how 9 about that? to MR. PIKE: Not a problem. 11 BY MR. EDWARDS, 12 0. Alright Have you ever looked at any of the 13 information from Customs and Immigration related to 14 flight logs? 15 A. No, 16 0. If Customs and Immigration Is the right agency 17 to take control of these documents, who is it that 18 generates the documents in terms of personnel riding upon 19 this airplane? 20 A. Captain. 21 O. Who was the captain or who were the Captains 22 that you are aware of - and try to give me years, it many 23 of them changed. to the best of your knowledge • for 24 Wexner? 25 A. Primarily it would have been Tim Staley, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 0. A. Q. A. Q. A. Q. A. 0. A. 0. right? A. No. MR. PIKE: Form. BY MR. EDWARD$: 0. Flying internationally? A. I don't know if the FAA gets that. It would more - most kkely be Customs and Immigration. MR. PIKE: Are you guys getting my form objections? MR. EDWARDS: Yes. We got you. MR. PIKE: Thank you. Brad. I just want on the record that nol all of my form objections are coming through. so if we have an issue with this deposition - I am on the phone • and I want 78 So this is almost into the transition - No, I'm sorry. - into it. Let me think on the dates. Okay. Yeah, I can't- I can't remember. Late '90s or 2000? Late '90s. Who has the flight logs from late '90s? I don't know. But that's something that the FAA would have, 80 1 Jim Taylor, Rob Imlay. 2 0. Rob? 3 A. Imlay, tat-LA-Y. Bill Hammond. 4 0. Bill Hammond? 5 A. Uh•huh. 6 0. Bill Hammond later becomes affiliated with Mr. 7 Epstein too, right? 8 A. Correct. 9 0. We're going to get to that. 10 Have you ever been a captain? 11 A. No. 12 0. And when you say that it's not necessary - 13 unless you're flying internationally, I know • but it's 14 not necessary to maintain a passenger manifest that 15 delineates the exact name, where are you getting that 16 information from? 17 A. I know it's not required by the FARs. 18 0. How do you know that? 19 A. Because you can read the FARs, Part 91, 20 FAR 91, Operations. 21 0. What's TAW stand for? 22 A. Federal Aviation Regulations. 23 0. And what would be the reason not to put the 24 whole name of the person on the airplane? 25 A. I don't know. I — I don't know. ESQUIRE •Pa la an Gallo Cala, Toll Free: Facsimile: N S www.eSquIreSOluti0nS.00M • • • EFTA00181401
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 81 1 O. Because later I'm going to show you some 2 lists, and certain people are listed by full name and 3 others are listed generically - any idea why that would 4 happen? 5 A. Unless they just don't know who it is. you 6 know, just a guess. I mean, you know, you don't want 7 to query somebody and give them the third degree if 8 it's just a guest of the boss that's, you know. 9 tiding along or something. 10 O. Well, she asked you your name before your 11 deposition and you didn't consider that the third degree 12 by any means, right? 13 A. Right, but 14 MR. PIKE: Objection to form. 15 A. But you're approaching your employers 16 guest. It would be like walking into his house and 17 asking him, "Who's sitting at the dining room table?' is - in a way. See what I'm saying? It's just You 19 have to maintain -- 20 O. But -- 21 A. — the employee/employer relationship. 22 O. No, no, no. I guess what I'm saying is: If 23 one of these people is Mohammed Ana, you would like to 24 know it, probably. 25 A. Well, yes. 83 1 A. It would be obvious that these are 2 associates of some form, that they're not, you know, 3 strangers trying to board the airplane. 4 O. So let's go back to that conversation that you 5 have in the Ohio hangar, or whatever it is, with David 6 Rodgers and Larry Visoski when they talked to you for the 7 first time about possibly switching over to Mr. Epstein. 8 A. Uhhuh. 9 O. How does that conversation really go about? 10 MR. PIKE: Form. 11 A. I don't understand. What do you mean, 12 'How did it go about" 13 O. Did you approach them and say, 'Hey, are you 14 going to stay here forever with this airplane? or 'Do 15 you have another job for me? or what? 16 A. I think it was just, you know. I believe 17 Larry approached me. I can't remember. It was that 18 long ago, but 19 O. What does Larry say to you? 20 A. I can't remember the exact conversation. 21 O. 1 mean, was he not happy where he was? 22 A. Who, Larry? 23 O. Yes. 24 A. Never said he wasn't. 25 O. How did you know Larry? 82 1 MR. PIKE: Form. 2 A. Yes, yes. 3 O. So any reason why a captain trying to secure 4 the airplane and the people aboard wouldn't take that 5 extra step and try to figure out who's exactly on his 6 airplane? 7 A. Well, when it's - the normal passenger 8 loads are five to ten people, at the very most, and 9 they're all with the owner and accompanying the owner 10 and some of the regular passengers, you know: the 11 likelihood that Mohammed Atta is going to sneak in 12 there and board his plane and ride along is - you 13 know. 14 O. He's willing to play those odds, okay. 15 A. Well, I'm not saying that he's playing 16 odds. I'm just stating that the only reason I can 17 think — I don't know. I've never filled those out. 18 The only reason I can think is he just didn't have 19 the name and didn't want to intrude and ask. 20 O. If you were a captain, would you ask who was 21 on your airplane? 22 A. Not if the situation was that it was 23 controlled by the owner and I knew who the - you 24 know. 25 O. Okay. 84 1 A. What are you talking about? Why would he 2 not be happy where he was? I don't understand. 3 O. Well, he's working for some other corporation 4 that's not non-Epstein owned. A. Oh, that previous corporation sold the 6 airplane. 7 O. Oh, they did? A. Yeah. He had no choice. They were out of 9 work. 10 O. So Larry and David were about to be out of 11 work. 12 A. Yes. 13 O. So they said, "Hey, we found a new job and 14 it's with this guy Jeffrey Epstein and he's buying that 15 plane. Do you want to be involved?' 16 A. No, no. There was another airplane in 17 between - Iwo other airplanes. There was a long time 18 between - and I don't know the exact dates and I 19 don't know that I even do know the dates - but there 20 was a time between when they left Glimcher before 21 Jeffrey got involved with the 727. 22 O. So they leave Glimcher? 23 A. Yes. 24 O. Then what happens*? 25 A. They somehow - I don't know how • hired on • 0 ESQUIl ea, Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions. corn EFTA00181402
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 85 1 with Jeffrey. 2 O. They hired on with Jeffrey to pilot the 727? 3 A. No. He had two other airplanes prior to 4 that. He had a Hawker that ho had for a very short period and then he bought - traded it or sold it. I 6 don't know what he did with it, but then he got the 7 Gulfstream. 8 O. So Larry Visoski and David Rodgers were pilots 9 for Jeffrey Epstein when he had the Hawker also? 10 A. Yes. 11. O. And what year are we talking about there? 12 A. I have no idea. 13 O. Well, if you sign on with him in '91. it's 14 before that year. right? 15 A. No, no, I signed in '01 - January '01. 16 O. '01. 17 A. I don't know how long they flew for 18 Glimcher before that airplane went away and how quick 19 they got on with Jeffrey. I don't know. Somewhere 20 between '88 and 2001, they -- 21 O. During -- 22 A. -- left Glimcher and -- 23 O. During '88 and '01. do you remain in contact 24 with Larry Visoskl and David Rodgers? 25 A. On and off. They eventually moved, you 87 1 O. Before your conversation with them about 2 becoming involved with Jeffrey Epstein. 3 A. Yes. 4 O. How? A. Like we discussed. We've been through 6 this already. When they were at Glimcher they had an 7 airplane in the hangar. We would see them 8 sporadically and we would talk. 9 O. I'm sorry, bad question. I don't mean on a 10 business relationship. On a social relationship, did you 11 hang out with them -- 12 A. Oh, no. 13 O. -• outside of this? 14 A. No. no. 15 O. I apologize. 16 So • and I only asked that question because 17 some years tater then you're in contact with them and 18 they asked you to become involved with Jeff Epstein. 19 A. Uh-huh. 20 O. But that is because of a business relationship 21 solely that you had with them -- 22 A. Oh, yeah. 23 O. years before? 24 A. I didn't know them personally. 25 MR. PIKE: Form. 86 1 know, to • moved away from Columbus when they hired 2 on with Jeffrey, so they weren't in the hangar every 3 day. 4 O. Where did they go - do you know? A. I think Dave went to New York and Larry 6 went back to South Florida. 7 O. Do you know why? 8 A. Well, because I think Jeffrey gave them 9 the choice of living where they would like, I 10 believe. I mean, that's -- 11 O. That's what they've said. 12 A. That's what they've said. 13 O. Okay, and Larry chose South Florida, David 14 Rodgers chose New York? 15 A. Right. 16 O. And Epstein had a place for them both wherever 17 they wanted to go? 16 A. Well, they owned their own homes or 19 something. I don't know what their living 20 arrangements were. 21 O. Did you know Larry Rodgers or David Visoski 22 before this? 23 A. Before? 24 MR. PIKE: Form. 25 BY MR. EDWARDS: 88 1 BY MR. EDWARDS: 2 O. Okay. Alright. So in 2001, is that the year 3 that you get a telephone call from one or two of these 4 people? 5 MR. PIKE: Form. 6 A. It would be either late 2000 or early 7 2001. I don't -- These transactions don't happen 8 overnight -- 9 O. Yeah. 10 A. -- buying an airplane. So it could have 11 happened in, you know, November or started talking in 12 November, like, 'Well, you know, would you be 13 interested if Jeffrey gets the airplane or buys the 14 airplane?' you know, to when I actually hired on. 15 O. Did you ever talk to Ghislaine Maxwell - ever? 16 A. After I had hired on. yes. 17 O. After you hired on with Epstein. Is A. Yes. 19 O. We'll go up to her. 20 So when Is it that you hired on with Jeffrey Epstein? 22 A. I think I began in January of '01. 23 O. In January of 431. do you start getting a 24 paycheck from Jeffrey Epstein? 25 A. Yes. ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: I la www.esquIreso utions.com • • • EFTA00181403
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 89 O. And is it paid from one of his companies or 2 from Jeffrey Epstein specifically? 3 A. No, no - JEGE. 4 O. JEGE. What is your understanding as to what 5 that is? 6 A. It's just initials. It's a name. I don't ▪ have any idea what it stands for, but I'd ask that a • million times. 9 O. Irs a company that owns something, right? 10 A. I don't know -- 11 MR. PIKE: Form. 12 A. — Nit even owns anything. I don't know 13 what type of company it is. I don't know if It's 14 just a Wilmington, Delaware, company. 15 O. What's the bank account that it was written 16 on? 17 A. I can't remember. I mean. I know I'd read 18 - I'd see 'JEGE' on it, that's all. 19 O. A New Mexico bank, New York bank. Florida 20 bank? 21 A. I have no idea because it's direct 22 deposit. All I would do is just see if the amount's 23 right. I don't -- I have no idea. I would -- I have 24 no idea. 25 Q. What was your communication - direct 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 91 perform. O. On what planes? A. Just the Gulf - just the Boeing. O. Just the Booing? A. Uh-huh. O. Over the years, did you become aware that he owned other aircraft? A. I knew that he still had that. MR. PIKE: Form. A. He still had the Gulfstream. O. At the time back in 2001 - and we're going to walk through some of his airplanes - he owned the Boeing 727, right? A. Coned. O. And what other airplanes did he own at that lime when you signed on with him in 200t? A. The Gulfstream. O. Gulfstream is what? A. 2B. O. Do you know who the pilot was for that plane? A. Dave and Larry, I mean, it's always. O. Was it always Dave and Larry no matter what plane was being taken out? A. Unless somebody was on vacation or in school and they used contract people. 90 1 communication with Jeffrey Epstein that results in your 2 employment with JEGE? 3 MR. PIKE: Form. 4 A. A conversation result in my Essentially 5 Larry hired me. I mean, it wasn't - it wasn't -- 6 dkIn't really — I may have had one phone 7 conversation with Jeffrey prior to actually being 8 hired and the next time I saw Jeffrey was when I was 9 in Florida with the airplane. 10 O. What did Jeffrey ask you in that one phone 11 conversation? 12 A. I think he asked me what my current salary 13 was, or something along that line, you know. 14 O. Did he ask you what you were looking for in 15 terms of salary? 16 A. Yes. 17 O. What did you tell him? le A. I told him to basically .- I forget how it 19 went exactly. It ended up being like $117,000, 20 something like that. 21 O. $117.000 a year? 22 A. Yeah. 23 O. And what were your duties? 24 A. Basically • flight engineer, obviously, 25 but all line maintenance and scheduled maintenance to 92 1 O. What was the purpose behind having multiple 2 planes - used one for the purpose. one for another - do 3 you know? 4 A. I never could figure that out. 5 O. Really? 6 A. Yeah. 7 O. No rhyme or reason why he took one this way e and one that way? 9 A. No. He was • pretty much once the Boeing 10 got on line. Now, you know, the Boeing goes down for 11 heavy maintenance. It used to go annually, now It 12 goes down biannually. but - so he would utilize that 13 airplane while it was out of service, you know, for 14 maintenance, which sometimes would be lour, five 15 weeks at a time, so. 16 O. And in those cases, then he would use the 17 Gulfstream 2B? 18 A. Yes. 19 O. Have you been on both planes? 20 A Yes. 21 O. Were still talking about 2001. Is that the 22 first time that you're on the 727? 23 A. First time I was on the 727? Walt. I 24 don't know what you mean. 25 O. After Epstein owns it. • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: EFTA00181404
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 93 A. Yes. 2 0. And do you remember where you went? 3 A. Very first flight, no, because we didn't 4 fly it immediately. We upgraded some avionics and 5 did modifications. 6 0. What modifications did he want to that plane? 7 A. Just changed the carpet and some fabrics, a upgraded the radar, upgraded the navigation - the 9 flight manifest systems. 10 0. Did he change the interior at all? 11 A. No. We removed that one small table and 12 chair - that's it, but we did not really change what 13 you would consider the floor plan. 14 0. Now, try to give me a visual appreciation of 15 the inside of the plane. If I'm looking out the cockpit 16 back towards the back of the plane; what am I going to 17 see? 18 A. A door. 19 Q. That's it? 20 A. That's it, yeah. 21 0. Just an empty room with a door? 22 A. No, no. The doors always closed. If the 23 door's open you will see the forward salon, and in 24 the forward salon there Is a conference table, a 25 high/low table, some divans, and some single seats. 95 1 A. Can't remember the first eight. Like I 2 say. it was down fora while - probably - I think it 3 was - had to take at least three to four months maybe 4 to get it- s 0. And did you know of him flying on the aftplane 6 with girls accompanying him? 7 MR. PIKE: Form. A. I don't — 9 0. Back in 2001. 10 A. With girls accompanying him? 11 0. Yes. 12 A. Yes. 13 0. Where would he pick the girls up from? 14 MR. PIKE: Form. 15 A. $ don't know. They would arrive with him. 16 you know, out of Palm Beach or out of New York. I 17 don't even remember where we went the first time. 18 The first flight was probably New York, I think. 19 Q. Is it a private airport in New York where you 20 would usually pull into or a commercial airport? 21 A. I think the first time we started going up 22 there. I think, we were using White Plains, which is 23 - actually, it's not a private airport. They all 24 have some commercial service. It would have been 25 White Plains, I believe, then later we staled using 94 1 Q. What's behind that? 2 A. The galley. 3 0. The what? 4 A. The kitchen - galley. 5 0. Okay. 6 A. Behind that Is the aft salon. which is AIM two round divans. 0. And? 9 A. After that is the office, which is a - 10 Consists of a credenza and a desk, or divan and a 11 desk and chairs. 12 0. How many of these areas can you close of or 13 plant:In? 14 MR. PIKE: Form. 15 A. Each one. And after that there's the 16 state room. 17 0. And in the state morn - how big is the state 111 room? 19 A. Consists of a queen size bed and two 20 single seats. 21 O. Have you ever been back in the state room? 22 A. Oh. yes. Yeah. 23 0. When's the first time you flew on the airplane 24 with Jeffrey Epstein back in 2001, after he acquired the 25 727? 96 Kennedy, and the service was so terrible in Kennedy 2 and so expensive we went to Newark. 3 0. When you would fly into White Plains or to 4 Kennedy or Newark. would you always got of of the 5 airplane or would you sometimes stay on and wait for 6 passengers to board? A. I don't understand. 0. Well. when you stop an airplane -- 9 A. Right. 10 0. — sometimes you get off the airplane and you 11 go either through a. you know, through the airport or you 12 go somewhere else, or your option is to stay on the 13 airplane and not get off and wait for other people to get 14 on before you take of. 15 A. Oh, no. 16 MR. REINHART: I'm sorry, can we clarify 17 the -you'? Do you mean him personally or the le people who were passengers on the plane that ho 19 was flying? 20 0. I'm talking about you personally. 21 A. Oh, no, it was rare that we ever did a 22 through flight. Wo would normally go from Point A to 23 Point B. and that was the destination. 24 O. I assume when he buys the plane initially it 25 was in Ohio, right? ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: I MMEI www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181405
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 97 1 A. Well, yeah, but -- 2 Q. Then you fly to Florida. 3 A. Well, we crewed it to Florida and then it 4 sat at a facility in Florida during negotiations, so 5 it didn't go directly from Ohio. 6 O. In 2001, when there's still negotiations. 7 where in Florida is the airplane? 8 A. Lake City - Timco, Lake City. 9 0. During the negotiations, does it ever take off 10 or is it grounded? 11 A. No. no, its grounded, because on a Part 12 91 deviation it has to be under a specific 13 maintenance program, so when it left The Limited, it 14 left that maintenance program, and I had to 15 transition it to the new program. 16 O. This is still sometime in 2001, right? 17 A. Early, yes, yes. 18 O. And then it passes all inspections, I'm 19 assuming? 20 A. Right, right. 21 Q. Then you take it to what airport to where 22 it -- 23 A. PBI. 24 Q. FBI? 25 A. Here in West Palm. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 99 O. Who's on the airplane? A. Wel, obviously it would be Jeffrey. O. Right. A. I can't remember who all went. O. Who were the pilots? A. I can't remember that either. O. Larry? A. No. MR. REINHART: Hold on. A. It would have been myself, for sure - because I was the only one with experience on the airplane - myself. Dave, I believe, would have been captain because he had been schooled, but I can't remember if Larry took first flight or not. I think he was still in training. O. Where did you go? A. I can't remember. MR. PIKE: Form. A. I can't remember if it was New York or I would imagine it would be New York, but I can't remember. O. When you say you would imagine New York, I'm getting the impression that many of the flights went to and from New York. A. Yeah, primarily. 98 1 O. While it's at PBI airport, does it take off 2 from there? 3 A. No, not for — That's when we were doing 4 the modifications and upgrades. We were doing the 5 avionics. 6 O. How long did that take? 7 A. I don't remember the exact time • maybe 8 three to four months. 9 O. Who does it with you? 10 A. Jet Aviation. Jet aviation did the 11 avionics and soft goods. 12 O. And when you say the 'soft goods; what do you 13 mean by that? 14 A. Carpet, fabrics, leather, you know, 15 different things like that. 16 O. When's the first time it takes off then on a 17 real flight - some time in 2001, but mid-year or 18 something? 19 A. Probably mid•year, maybe a little earlier 20 than mid-year. 21 O. We're talking about June of 2001? 22 A. Right. 23 O. And where do you go? 24 A. Can't remember. I can't remember for 25 sure. 100 1 O. So if - 2 A. And -- 3 O. So any time you're having to guess where it's 4 going, you're saying New York because that's the primary 5 place it's going. 6 A. Correct. I would have remembered — I -- 7 I know I didn't get — I had heard about St. Thomas, 8 but I hadn't been there right away. I didn't get to 9 go to St. Thomas for a while. 10 O. That's later on in the story. 11 A. Yes. 12 O. We'll get there. 13 So you go to New York. Does he tell you the 14 purpose behind going to New York? 25 A. No. 16 O. Prior to this trip to New York, have you had a 17 personal conversation with Jeffrey Epstein? 1,3 A. No. 19 MR. PIKE: Form. 20 BY MR. EDWARDS: 21 O. Never? 22 A. Not personal. Everything is 23 business-related. 24 O. Okay. but -- 25 A. I mean, it was about the interior work or • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esguiresolutions.com EFTA00181406
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 101 1 the avionics going in, but never personal. 2 0. But, I mean, you've been hired by him -- 3 A. Right. 4 0. — you agreed on a salary, he's going to pay s you the salary, but other than that, and what maintenance 6 may be required -- 7 A. Correct. 8 Q. on the airplane, nothing else? 9 A. He's a very -- His conversations are 10 usually very short. He doesn't, you know, lake much 11 time. 12 0. When you would have conversations with him, 13 would they be over the telephone or would they be in 14 person? 15 A. It could be in both. If he was in Florida 16 and I wanted to actually show him a fabric or a 17 sample for the airplane or he wanted to view how it 18 was coming, but oftentimes it would be via telephone 19 from New York. 20 0. When it would be in person, would you see him 21 surrounded by or be accompanied by a girl or girls? 22 MR. PIKE: Form. 23 A. At times, yeah. 24 Q. Would any of those girls be Ghislaine Maxwell? 25 A. At times, yes. 103 1 know, business relationship too. 2 0. Did you know who Ghislaine Maxwell was? 3 A. Not right away, no. no. 4 0. Not right away? 5 A. Right. 6 0. At some point in time you were curious enough 7 to make an attempt to find out. A. No, I 9 MR. PIKE: Form. 10 A. -- heard about her and there was a book up 11 in New York in the apartment that we stayed in that 12 was -- You know, you're sitting there with nothing to 13 do, I read that. 14 0. Do you remember the name of the book? 15 A. It was just -Maxwell.' 16 0. Have anything to do with her father? 17 A. Yeah, it was about him, that's what it was is about. I mostly just flipped through looking at 19 pictures, boats, and airplanes and stuff. 20 0. Back in 2001. the first time you had a real 21 conversation with Ghislaine Maxwell -- 22 MR. PIKE: Form. 23 A. Yes. 24 0. — what old that conversation consist of, if 25 you remember? 102 1 Q. Would any of those girls look extremety young 2 to you? 3 MR. PIKE: Form. 4 A. Not — Not that I thought. 0. Not back in 2001. we're talking about? 6 A. Right, right. 7 0. No. What would Ghislaine Maxwell say to you, if 9 anything? 10 MR. PIKE: Form. 11 A. She'd Mostly small talk, just She 12 kind of rid the business management pan of it as far 13 as, you know, arranging cell phone - I was having 14 cell phone problems with the company cell phone, she 15 would handle things like that, but she would have 16 minor inputs on the interior work. 17 0. What was your understanding back in 2001 still 18 of the relationship between Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey 19 Epstein? 20 MR. PIKE: Form. 21 A. I really didn't understand it. I thought 22 it was personal - personal and business. 23 0. When you say 'personal; did you think it was 24 sexual? 25 A. I thought maybe they were dating and. you 104 1 A. I think it was concerning getting a cell 2 phone and a pager - that's it. 3 0. Did it have anything to do with underage 4 girls? s A. Absolutely not, no, no. 6 0. That's not something the ever shared with you? 7 A. No. no. 0. Did Jeffrey Epstein ever share with you that 9 he wanted underage girls -- to A. No. 11 0. — in any way? 12 A. No. 13 MR. PIKE: Form. 14 BY MR. EDWARDS: is 0. I mean, certainly I'm not saying something to 16 you that's an absolute shocker right now -- 17 A. Right. 18 0. considering the newspaper articles. 19 A. Right, but I know -- You have to 20 understand, every conversation I had was pretty much 21 business, just to deal with the airplanes. You know, 22 I'm an employee/employer relationship. 23 0. I just don't want you to think I'm just asking 24 random off the wall questions 25 A. Right. 0 ESQUIRE *landau Gale Canny Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181407
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 105 1 O. that have nothing to do with anything. 2 A. I understand. 3 O. 2001. you start working for him, and that June 4 or so is the first flight, and you believe it's to New 5 York. 6 A. Correct. 7 O. Do you remember the purpose behind the flight? 8 A. No, did not know the purpose. 9 O. Did you get off the airplane in New York? to A. Yes, yes. 11 O. Where did you go? 12 A. Probably to - into the city, into the 13 city, and he has an apartment building up there that 14 we would stay in in the city. 15 O. Is it paid for by Jeffrey Epstein? 16 A. What? 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 BY MR. EDWARDS: 19 O. The apartment. 20 A. Well, he -- It's -- I think it's in the 21 building he owns. I mean, I just — I don't know. 22 O. Do you remember the address? 23 A. 301 East 66. 24 O. 301 East 66 Street, right? 25 A. Right. 107 1 building. I've been to the buiking. The building is 2 huge. 3 A. I don't know. I don't know if he owns the 4 building or just • or how many units he's got. Maybe 5 ten, because I think some of the employees up there 6 live in them. 7 O. Do you remember who some of the other 8 employees are that live in that building? 9 A. Well, I think Darren used to live in it, 10 Darren Indyke. 11 O. Darren Indyke, right. 12 What about. do you remember her? 13 A. lived in there. 14 O. What abOulMINIEll 15 A. I don't know in lived in there or 16 not. 17 O. You know who that is. though. Is A. Right, right. Actually, she was just kind 19 of corning into the picture when I was - about the 20 time when I was leaving. 21 O. What about Ghislaine Maxwell? 22 A. No. no, she didn't live there. 23 O. What about Joan Luc Brunel? 24 A. No. 25 O. How about: Did Mark Epstein ever indicate to 106 1 O. Did he ever mention a brother that he may have 2 to you? 3 A. I met his brother, I think, once. 4 O. What's his name? 5 A. I can't remember. 6 O. Mark? 7 A. I remember meeting. 8 O. Mark Epstein strike •• 9 A. Honestly. I can't say for sure. to O. And how do you know that Jeffrey Epstein owns 11 the apartment building at 301 East 66 Street? 12 A. Larry told me. I mean, it was just kind 13 of known. 14 O. Larry told you -- 15 A. Yeah. 16 O. — or Jeffrey told you? 17 A. Oh, no, not Jeffrey. no. Larry. I is wouldn't have asked Jeffrey. 19 O. How many of those apartments up there In New 20 York is it your understanding that Jeffrey owns? 21 MR. REINHART: I'm sorry, are you asking 22 how many units are in the building or how many 23 buildings? 24 BY MR. EDWARDS: 25 O. No, how many units that Jeffrey owns in the 108 1 you that he had any ownership in any of that? 2 A. Oh, no. I only saw him one time on a 3 short flight. I don't even know where we - we were 4 probably taking him to and he was just - Jeffrey 5 introduced him as his brother and it was very short, 6 you know, just, 'Oft, hi. How are your, and he went 7 in the back. 8 O. Do you know anything about the guy? 9 A. Uh-uh. 10 O. Nothing? 11 A. Nothing. 12 O. So in 2001, there's a flight up there at some 13 appointment in time, and you get off and you stay at one 14 of the apartment buildings at East 66 Street. 15 A. Right, right. 16 O. And did you meet any of the neighbors of the 17 apartments that are also owned by Jeffrey Epstein? 18 A. No, no, because when we're there it's 19 usually just for a night or something and then, you 20 know, we're either airkning home or going on. 21 O. How did you know Darren Indyke? 22 A. He's our •- He's our business attorney for 23 JEGE. 24 O. Do you remember any of the other tenants of 25 the apartments allIMIMIllother than Darren • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: EFTA00181408
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 109 Indyke and A Not that I remember, no. Q How about IMM? A. I don't think lived there. 5 O. Do you remember that name? 6 A. Yes. 7 Q. What about Cecelia Stein? 8 A. Cecelia Stein. no. I don't think so. 9 O. Jeff Fuller? 10 A. I don't know Jeff Fuller. I don't even 11 know Jeff Fuller. 12 O. Do you know the name Jean Luc Brunel? 13 A. Yes. 14 O. How do you know that name? 15 A. Ho's been He was a passenger on a few 16 of our flights. 17 Q. Do you know why? 18 A. 1 think he was -- I don't know for surd. 19 He's in a modeling business with Mr. Epstein, I 20 believe. 21 Q. MC2? Do you know that name - MC2 Modeling 22 Agency - used to be Karin Modeling Agency, now its MC2? 23 A. No. 24 O. How do you know about his and Mr. Epstein's 25 modeling agency? How do you know that? 111 1 of the MC2 shoots? 2 A. I never heard •• There was one incident -- 1 The only thing I remember about it is they were on a 4 shoot - and ifs not funny, but Jeff - but it is in a s way - they were in a motor home on location at the 6 shoot, and they started to drive off and one of the 7 models asked to use the restroom and they told her B which door it was and she went out the side door, so 9 grabbed the wrong door, but that's actually the only 10 thing that sticks in mind was that ono. 11 Q. Have you ever done any research on Jean Luc 12 Brunel? 13 A. No. 14 Q. Do you have any idea that he's known is throughout Europe as somebody who has sex with underage 16 girls/ 17 A. No. la O You dint know that until right now? 19 A. Correct. 20 O. That's something that you're teaming as a 21 surprise to you. 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. So Cecelia Stein - somebody you never heard 24 Or 25 A. It sounds familiar. I'm trying to place 110 1 A. Just every once in a while he would say 2 something about, you know, one of the model shoots or 3 something. We normally had him on • we would take 4 him back and forth to Paris. 5 O. Where some of their models come Irom? 6 A. I don't know. 7 O. Did you ever bring some of the Pans models a back? 9 A. Not that I'm aware of, no. 10 MR. PIKE: Form. 11 BY MR. EDWARDS: 12 O. So he would go to Paris on the airplane, Jean 13 Luc, would you drop him off there or would you pick 14 people up and bring them back? 15 A. If I remember, normally we were bringing 16 Jean Luc from Paris to New York, if I remember. 17 O. And when you say that the modeling agency - 18 obviously that, you know, between him and Mr. Epstein • 19 is that something that Mr. Epstein would talk to you 20 about or is that something that Joan Luc would talk to 21 you about or you would just overhear the two? 22 A. Overhear the two, or Jean Luc may say 23 something about ono of the shoots or something, just 24 in general conversation. 25 O. And what would Jeffrey's comment be about some 112 1 her. I don't know it she works in the office or — 2 O. Or worked in the office? 3 A. Worked in the office, yeah. I very rarely 4 went to the office. I mean - 5 O. 6 A. 7 O. 8 A. 9 O. 10 11 A. 12 13 14 15 O. Did Mr. Epstein ever once mention to you that 16 he likes massages? 17 MR, PIKE: Form. 18 A. No, he never mentioned that to me. 19 O. That's not something that you ever heard of, 20 right? 21 A. Well, I -- 22 O. 1 mean, outside of the articles that you've 23 read. 24 A. Right. No, but he never came up to me and 25 said, 'I like massages.' - how do you know her? From the flights • being on the airplane. How many times was she on the airplane/ Quite a few. Almost every. 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquIresolutIons.com • • • EFTA00181409
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 113 1 O. And did 2 3 what she may call 'work" Of *massages" for Epstein? 4 A. No, no, I don't. 5 MR. PIKE: Form. 6 BY MR. EDWARD$: 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 O. We're still talking about a time period back in 2001, right, in these -- A. No. IM - I don't remember- coming into the picture until later. O. Later in 2000-something? A. No, she wasn't around at first. O. Alright. 114 1 A. No. I don't remember when exactly -- 2 but she -- 3 O. Who was making the arrangements for meetings 4 and such prix. -- 5 A. Ms. Maxwell. 6 O. - that you remember? 7 So Maxwell was Ihe, for all intents and 8 purposes 9 A. For all intents and purposes, yes. 10 O. And did you ever hear of Ms. Maxwell making II arrangements for massages or for girls or anything else? 12 A. No. 13 MR. PIKE: Form. 14 BY MR. EDWARDS: 15 O. Where were the conversations - whether it was 16 travel or whatever else - that was occurring between 17 Maxwell and/or-? Where were they taking 18 place - on the airplane, some office? 19 A. Yeah. No, no. usually in the cockpit, you 20 know, prior to departure, en route stating, 'We've 21 got this many cars and I've contacted' or "Can you 22 call such and such to have this brought out?' 23 O. Did you ever see Epstein work a lot? 24 MR. PIKE: Form. 25 A. He always had a briefcase with him and he 115 1 always sat it by his office in the back. 2 O. Always had a computer? 3 A. No, no, it's just a large briefcase. 4 O. Did you ever know his email? 5 A. Yeah, I had it I can't remember what it 6 was and I don't think it's even current - but when I 7 would have to send him e-mails about the interior or 8 maintenance issues. It was jeprojects, or something 9 like that, at -- I don't know if it was at Yahoo or 10 gmail. I don't think it was gmail. 11 O. You think it was jeprojects? 12 A. I believe so, but I can't remember what 13 service. 14 O. At gmail.com or something? 15 A. Or something like that or Yahoo or 16 something. 17 O. How about Ms. Maxwell? 18 A. It was I think. 19 O. Do you know if that's still current? 20 A. No, I don't. 21 O. How about 22 A. I had it at one time and I know she 23 changed it and I don't know what it is. I can't 24 remember what it was, actually. 25 O. Do you know =El • where she is 116 1 right now? 2 A. No. 3 O. Do you know if she's intentionally on the lam 4 to try to avoid being deposed in this case? A. No. 6 MR. PIKE: Form. 7 A. No idea. I haven't had any contact with 8 MI since I stopped flying. 9 O. You say that =was just coming in the 10 picture - is the words that you used. What did you mean 11 by this? 12 A. Well, I mean she was just — I'm trying to 13 remember when I first started seeing her on the 14 airplane. I think it was not too long before I quit 15 flying. I can't remember the exact date. 16 O. When did you stop flying? 17 A. In February of '07. 18 O. February '07? 19 A. Yep. 20 O. And you don, think you saw her on the 21 airplane until before that? 22 A. No, rm saying she was only coming into 23 the picture like maybe six months before that or so 24 or I donl know for sure. 25 O. You don't remember seeing her on the airplane • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquIreso utIons.com EFTA00181410
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 117 in 2031, 2002,2003? A. Oh, no. not that early. O. Do you know where she came from? A. Just what I've read in the paper - an eastern country. I'm sorry. I don't remember the country. O. Were you ever told that Mr. Epstein is that something that you ever heard? A. No. I did read something like that in the paper, but, no, never heard of that. O. Did you over see him and her sexually involved on the airplane or otherwise? A. No. O. Did you ever see Epstein involved sexually with anybody on the airplane? A. No. O. Did you ever see the airplane used for sexual purposes? A. No. MR. PIKE: Form. BY MR. EDWARDS: O. If it had happened - considering the various areas that were cordoned off or blocked off - would that 119 1 A. No. 2 O. — in the back of the airplane. 3 A. No. 4 O. So anything could go on. You would have no 5 idea. 6 MR. PIKE: Form. 7 BY MR. EDWARDS: 8 O. You could sit here and testify truthfully, 9 have no clue what's going on back them.' to A. That's correct. That's correct. 11 O. Darren Indyke - what's your understanding as 12 to his involvement with Mr. Epstein? 13 A. An attorney for the company. 14 O. Ever met Alan Dershowitz? 15 A. I think Yes. 16 O. How did you meet him? 17 A. Alan Dershowitz. I don't know if it was 18 Mr. Goldberger or Alan Dershowitz. We brought some 19 attorneys down -- 20 O. Why? 21 A. -- to Florida one time. 22 O. Why? 23 A. For Mr. Epstein. It was right before I 24 finished 'tying. For Mr. Epstein to make an 25 appearance at the courthouse or a meeting or 118 1 have even been something that you could have seen? 2 A. No, no, if it was - if the doors were 3 closed, no. 4 O. So there's a back room that you've described 5 that has a bed in it, and if that doors closed you don't 6 know what's going on behind closed doors. right? 7 A. That's correct. a MR. PIKE: Form. 9 BY MR. EDWARDS: 10 O. Do you remember a time Epstein was back in 11 that back room with other people? 12 MR. PIKE: Form. 13 A. No. 14 O. Are you saying it never happened while you 15 were on the airplane? 16 A. I really have no idea of knowing because, 17 one, we never go back there unless we're invited 18 back. 19 O. Okay. 20 A. And the forward door - the very forward 21 salon door is closed, so we never even normally go 22 8110 that - 23 O. So you don't really know -- 24 A. -- without permission. 25 Q. You don't really know what happens -- 120 1 something, and we brought some attorneys with him. 2 O. And were you aware then of the allegations 3 against Mr. Epstein? 4 A. They were starting to brew, yes. 5 O. Were you still actively working on his payroll 6 at the time when the investigation was going on? 7 A. Yes, when it just started. 8 Q. And did that impact you in any way as to 9 whether or not you wanted to be affiliated with this 10 person? 11 A. Subconsciously, it may have. And it 12 wasn't because of this person, but as a business 13 decision, if, you know, an airplane's not needed and 14 I don't fly, I could be out of work. But, no, the 15 Oman/ reason was the fact that I did want to get 16 off the road and back home. 17 O. Do you have children? 18 A. Yes. 19 O. How old? 20 A. A daughter 28, son 24, and a daughter 17 - 21 all with the same bride - 31 years. 22 Q. I'm assuming you're aware of the factual 23 allegations in these Complaints? 24 A. Yes, yes. 25 O. And you are aware that there are hundreds of Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE www.esgulresolutIons.com • • • EFTA00181411
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 121 1 girls who are underage who claim to have had sex with Mr. 2 Epstein as well as Ms. Maxwell at various times? 3 MR. PIKE: Form. 4 A. I was only aware of — First time I was s made aware of it, of the number of people, was when 6 they served me the subpoena. The deputies or 7 retired O. Yes. 9 A. -- private eyes told me that. That was 10 the first I had heard a number. 11 O. Were you completely oblivious that this was 12 going on? And by •this' I mean Epstein and/or Ghislaine 13 Maxwell and/or recruiting 12, 13, 14. 14 15-year-old girls to his house for sex? 15 A. Absolutely I was oblivious to it. 16 MR. PIKE: Form. 17 BY MR. EDWARDS: 18 O. If young girls were on an airplane that you 19 were on - considering that we've now established how the 20 airplanes set up and you're kind of cordoned off - is it 21 possible that underage girls would have been on the 22 airplane and you just wouldn't have known about it? 23 MR. PIKE: Form. 24 A. No. no. I mean, people don't board the 25 airplane with • you know, and then Just say, 'Close 123 1 O. Okay. I'll ask it a different way. 2 A. Because we have had -- You know. he's got 3 a goddaughter and godson that were young, I mean. 4 O. Okay. Over the years -- 5 A. I mean, I don't know what Me purpose -- 6 O. Right. I totally understand what you're 7 saying. 8 Over the years. when you were on Jeffrey 9 Epstein's airplane, were you aware between 2001 and 10 wherever you stopped. 2007 -- 11 A. Seven. 12 O. •- were you aware of girls that appeared very 13 underage on the airplane? la A. No. is MR. PIKE: Form. 16 BY MR. EDWARDS: 17 Q. I'm not saying what was happening on the 18 airplane. I'm just saying, were you aware of it? 19 A. No. not • unless they were there, like I 20 said, his goddaughter at the time. One time - a 21 couple times wo flew her with her mom and dad where I 22 don't even know their age. 23 MR. PIKE: Again, form, asked and 24 answered. 25 A. Six or seven. But, no, I was not aware of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 1.1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 122 the door, we're going." You know, you see who boards the airplane. Q. So if there were flight records that show underage girls on the airplane, you would know about it? MR. PIKE: Form. A. Not necessarily. O. Well, how not? MR. REINHART: I'm sorry. A. Wel, how do you -- MR. REINHART: When you say "them," do you mean he would know about the records or he would know about the girls allegedly on the plane? BY MR. EDWARDS: O. You would know about the underage girls on the airplane if they wore on there. MR. PIKE: Form. A. How do you How would I know that they're underage, though? O. Welt, you would only know that they look extremely young, right? A. But -- MR. PIKE: Form. A. — what is the intent of them? I mean, are they guests or are they friends of his associates 124 anybody that was obviously, blatantly underage. 2 O. Any famous people that you can tell me that 3 were on the airplane? 4 A. President Clinton - Ex-President Clinton. 5 O. Were you on the airplane 6 A. Yes. 7 O. -- when he was on it? 8 A. Yes. 9 O. Hew many limes? 10 A. Two trips. I mean, two extended trips. 11 O. Where did it go? 12 A. The first one - or the first one was Asia. 13 O. What purpose? 14 A. I forget what the purpose was on that one. 15 O. Was Jeffrey Epstein on the airplane as well? 16 A. Yes, yes. 17 O. Who else was on the airplane then? 18 A. I don't remember on that one. It was 19 primarily him and his support staff. 20 O. Was 21 A. Probably, yes, probably. 22 O. When's the next time President Clinton was on 23 his airplane? 24 A. I don't remember the date, but we did a 25 Africa trip, an AIDS awareness tour. We did like ten • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresoluttons.com EFTA00181412
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 125 1 countries in 12 days. 2 O. Is that a time Chris Tucker •- 3 A. Yes. 4 O. and Kevin Spacey were also on it? 5 A. Yes. 6 O. In addition to the people that we've named. 7 were there females on that airplane? A. Yes. 9 O. And who were the females that wore on the 10 airplane? 11 A. Can't remember. Ms. Maxwell. =, I can 12 remember, and a couple others, and there's - Mr. 13 Clinton had - a couple of his support staff were 14 women also. 15 Q. Where were you sitting during these trips? 16 A. Up front in the • my station. 17 O. Could you see what they were doing where you 18 were? 19 A. No, no. 20 O. Could you tell if there was any sex going on 21 on the airplane while you were on it? 22 A. No. 23 MR. PIKE: Form. 24 BY MR. EDWARD$: 25 O. Do you know of any underage girls being on 127 1 MR. EDWARDS: No. I mean, unless 2 everybody wants to take a lunch break. 3 Everybody's shaking their heads, so, no, I'm 4 going to take a bathroom break, and it's going 5 to be a fast one. 6 MR. PIKE: Okay. 7 BY MR. EDWARDS: O. In 2001, when you're on this flight to New 9 York and then during that year we talked a little bit 10 about it, is Larry Visoski and David Rodgers also on some 11 of these flights? 12 A. Most, yes. 13 O. If somebodys going to keep passenger logs, 14 who's going to write down the names of the people? Is 15 that going to be you o is that somebody else's 16 responsibility? 17 A. Whoever is captain. 18 O. So normally it's Visoski or David Rodgers? 19 A. Correct. 20 O. Who do you turn these logs into? 21 MR. PIKE: Form. 22 A. I don't know. I don't know where they go. 23 O. You don't know the purpose behind keeping them 24 or anything? 25 A. No. 126 1 that airplane or would you have been able to tell? 2 A. No. 3 MR. REINHART: I'm sorry MR. PIKE: Asked and answered. 5 MR. REINHART: -- are you limiting it to 6 that trip? 7 BY MR. EDWARDS: 8 O. To that trip. 9 A. No, I'm not aware of it. 10 O. If you had been aware of underage girls being 11 transported on the airplane for the purposes of sex, 12 would you have said something to somebody? 13 A. Yes. 14 MR. PIKE: Form. 15 MR. EDWARDS: Do you mind if we take a 16 five-minute break? I just have to run to the 17 bathroom. 18 MR. PIKE: Actually, Brad, can you hear 19 me? 20 MR. EDWARDS: Yes. 21 MR. PIKE: How much longer do you 22 anticipate going with this witness? 23 MR. EDWARDS: Hour, maybe a little longer. 24 MR. PIKE: Welt, are you going to take a 25 lunch break or what? 126 1 Q. As far as you're concerned, you don't even 2 need to keep them. 3 A. Correct. Yeah. 4 Q. As just due diligence - going above and 5 beyond? 6 A. Correct. 7 Q. Today you have an attorney sitting right next 8 to you. right? 9 A. Correct. 10 Q. Is that somebody that you've known for a long 11 time? 12 A. No. 13 Q. You're paying for an attorney to sit here with 14 you? 15 A. No. 16 Q. Who's paying for your attorney? 17 A. Mr. Epstein. 18 O. Are you worried that you're criminally 19 involved here or something? Is that why you need an 20 attorney? 21 A. No. I don't even know anything about this 22 process, that's -- 23 O. Oh, okay. 24 A. IM just -- You know. 25 O. How did you know that you were -- Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQVffig www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181413
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 129 1 MR. PIKE: Brad. Brad. Brad. 2 O. - going to get an attorney 3 MR. REINHART: Brad, hold on. 4 MR. PIKE: Whoa. Whoa. Stop. 5 MR. EDWARDS: I'm listening. 6 MR. PIKE: Brad. 7 MR. EDWARDS: Go. 8 MR. PIKE: You are not allowing the 9 witness to finish his statements throughout this 10 entire depo. Please. I'm on the phone. You 11 start your question before the witness is 12 finished. I'm sony for raising my voice, but 13 you must allow the witness to finish his answer, 14 please. 15 MR. EDWARDS: You got it. 16 THE WITNESS: What was your question now? 17 Iforgot. 18 MR. EDWARDS: I'm sitting here looking at 19 the witness and have a feeling we're going to be 20 sitting here for 30 minutes, but I will do that 21 for you, Mr. Pike. 22 MR. PIKE: Alright. 23 THE WITNESS: What was the question again, 24 please? 25 MR. EDWARDS: Can I ask the question again 131 1 this case against Mr. Epstein? 2 MR. REINHART: Let me ask him not to 3 answer that. 4 MR. PIKE: Form. 5 MR. REINHART: It's privileged. 6 MR. EDWARDS: It's privileged between Mr. 7 Epstein and you, but is it privileged between 8 the two Of you? 9 MR. REINHART: Between Mr. Morrison and 10 me. 11 BY MR. EDWARDS: 12 O. Is it your understanding that he represents 13 you or he represents Mr. Epstein? 14 A. He represents me. 15 O. Okay. Do you think that you've done anything 16 wrong criminally? 17 A. No. 18 O. Do you think that you're being sued civilly? 19 A. No. 20 O. And you have no reason to be sued civilly, 21 right? 22 A. Correct. 23 O. Did you talk to Mr. Epstein prior to taking 24 your deposition today? 25 A. Oh, no. I haven't talked to him in well 130 1 or wait? I'll wait for you. 2 MR. PIKE: If I'm ready. 3 MR. EDWARDS: I already asked the 4 question, so we're waiting. MR. REINHART: I think the witness asked 6 you to repeat the question. 7 MR. EDWARDS: Are you good? Alright. 8 BY MR. EDWARDS: 9 O. Who hired your attorney? 10 A. Mr. Epstein. 11 O. And do you have any idea why, If you're a 12 witness in a case - no problems criminally - why you 13 personally have an attorney paid for by Mr. Epstein to 14 sit here with you? 15 MR. PIKE: Form. 16 A. No, I don't. 17 O. Do you want an attorney to sit here with you 18 while I ask you questions? 19 MR. PIKE: Form. 20 A. I don't know what the proper protocol is. 21 O. Okay. 22 A. I have very limited exposure to anything 23 like this. 24 O. How did this come about to where you have an 25 attorney as a witness - completely innocent witness - in 132 1 over a year-and-a-half, maybe two years, and that was 2 just a "hello' because I'm at the airplane one day. 3 O. So how is it you know that Mr. Epstein paid 4 for your attorney? MR. REINHART: It's privileged. 6 MR. EDWARDS: Okay. That answers my 7 question. 8 BY MR. EDWARDS: 9 O. Have you ever met Donald Trump? 10 A. Yes. 11 O. How? 12 A. He was He boarded the airplane one day 13 when ours was on the ramp. 14 O. And did you talk to him? 15 A. Just he introduced himself and I 16 introduced myself. 17 O. And did he talk to Mr. Epstein? 18 A. No. Mr. Epstein wasn't present. I was 19 doing maintenance. 20 O. And did he fly on the plane? 21 A. No. 22 O. Not that time? 23 A. Never. 24 O. You think he never flew on the plane? 25 A. On our airplane? ESQUIRE •n Al RA bit I 0•1:• (wens/ Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutIons.com EFTA00181414
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 133 1 O. Yes. 2 A. No. 3 O. So if somebody has given testimony other than 4 that, you would say that person is mistaken or lying? 5 MR. PIKE: Form. 6 A. Donald Trump was never on the airplane 7 when I was on the airplane. O. Is it your understanding that Donald Trump is 9 friends with Mr. Epstein? 10 A. From what I've read - or associates. I 11 don't know how that circle works. 12 0. What's your understanding as to who Mr. 13 Epstein's real friends are? 14 A. I really don't know. I don't I don't 15 know. It's It's not like the Wexners where, you 16 know, they were high school associates, you know. 17 growing up. le O. Do you know what Mr. Epstein did prior to 19 managing the money for Mr. Wexner? 20 A. Just that he was a Wall Street broker or 21 somebody, you know. 22 O. Also from reading? 23 A. Yes, yes. 24 O. Do you know any personal knowledge as to what 25 Mr. Epstein has told you about how he made money? 135 A. I have no idea I don't know. O. When you say that was just 3 mini in the picture. what's your understanding as to 4 who is relative to Mr. Epstein? 5 A. I don't know. I don't understand. I 6 don't know. I didn't know if maybe she was lace an 7 exchange -- Jeffrey always appeared to be very involved in education and philanthropy. I didn't 9 know if she was an exchangeiypo student or something 10 or what. I don't know. 11 O. When you say he appeared to be 'involved in,' 12 what do you mean? 13 A. Educational things. foundations, science 14 foundations. and things. 15 O. Speaking of • the Florida Science Foundation 16 is a place where. Mien he was on work release. he spent a 17 lot of time there, you're aware of that? 18 A. That's what I've heard, yeah. 19 O. What does that place do? zo A. I have no idea. 21 O. Does it do anything? 22 A I don't know. I don't know anything about 23 it. 24 O. Certainty you've read certain newspaper 25 articles about the allegations. police reports. 134 1 A. He's never - 2 MR. PIKE: I'm going to move to strike any 3 responses relative to what the witness haS 4 learned from reading. BY MR. EDWARD$: 6 O. And so that is why I asked the question Has 7 Mr. Epstein told you? Which would have nothing to do 8 with reading. 9 A. No. 10 O. How many conversations have you personalty had 11 with Mr. Epstein? 12 A. No personal conversations - all business. 13 O. Have you witnessed Mr. Epstein with any girls 14 that look to be under the age of 18? 15 A. No. 16 O. Have you witnessed Mr. Epstein with 17 young-looking girls that appear to be in their twenties? 18 MR. PIKE: Form. 19 A. Yes. 20 O. On how many occasions? 21 A. Probably several. 22 O. And how did that come about? 23 A. I mean, they show up and ride on the 24 airplane, you know. 25 O. And whO are they, if you know? 136 1 otherwise, the allegations that occurred or have been 2 alleged to have occurred al his Palm Beach mansion. 3 Correct? 4 A. Uh•huh. 5 O. Correct? 6 A. Coned. 7 O. Given the nature of those allegations, would 8 you leave your daughter of 17, 16, 15 years old with Mr. 9 Epstein alone? 10 MR. PIKE: Form. Move to strike. 11 A. Yes. 12 O. You would? 13 A. (Witness nods head.) 14 O. And why? 15 A. Because I don't fear that he would try 16 anything with my daughter. He showed — When I 17 worked for him he showed me respect. He never -- I 18 never He never showed me disrespect. He would ask 19 how the family is. I mean. not on a personal level, 20 but an employer/employee. 21 O. Right. Okay. 22 A. He never showed me any reason not to trust 23 him. 24 O. But you're not a 13-year old girl, so. 25 A. No. but, like I say, he never showed me ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esguireso utions.com • • • EFTA00181415
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 137 1 any reason not to trust. 2 O. So maybe that's the reason why there were 3 hundreds of victims, right? 4 A. I don't know that there were. 5 O. So is it surprising to read the things that 6 you read about what was going on at his house? 7 A. Yes. 8 MR. PIKE: Form. Move to strike. 9 BY MR. EDWARDS: 10 O. I'm going to ask you about I'm going to 11 mark them all -- In fact, I'm going to show them to your 12 attorney first because I'm going to mark them as a 13 composite • just to save time. 14 MR. REINHART: For the record• you've 15 handed me a stack of passenger manifests? 16 MR. EDWARDS: Yes. You can count them if 17 you want. doesn't matter to me. and we'll just 18 mark them as a composite • go through each one 19 of them. 20 MR. REINHART: If you're going to go 21 through each one of them, I don't need to count 22 them. You'll make a record on that. 23 MR. EDWARDS: Fine. I'm going to mark 24 these as Composite Exhibit 1, and we'll count 25 them at the end. 139 1 know her if I saw her. 2 O. What did she do? 3 A. I don't know. I don't know. 4 O. Would it surprise you if she was in charge of 5 scheduling for the minors to come over to the house to 6 sexually gratify Mr. Epstein? 7 MR. PIKE: Form. A. Yeah, that would surprise me, yes. 9 O. Okay. She didn't do that while you were on 10 the airplane, right? 11 A. Wi no. 12 O. Was Mr. Epstein on the airplane? 13 MR. PIKE: Form. When? 14 A. Yes. 15 O. And if it happened, it happened at a portion 16 of the airplane where you couldn't see it because you 17 were partitioned off? 18 A. What happened? 19 MR. REINHART: I'm sorry, can we just get 20 a timeframe? 21 MR. PIKE: Form. 22 MR. REINHART: Are we talking about this 23 flight? 24 MR. EDWARDS: Yes, we're talking about 25 that flight. 138 1 (Defendant's Composite I was marked for 2 klentificatIon.) 3 BY MR. EDWARDS: 4 O. The first one's dated 1/14/2004. Can you tell 5 me what we're looking at there? Just remember. I'm about 6 as familiar with that type of stuff as a three year old, 7 so help me out. 8 A. Passenger manifest just showing basically 9 date, time off, time on, the trip number of the year. 10 I guess It would be • that seems high for the year - 11 but trip number - that must be for the total • 12 destination or departure point - destination. 13 O. The trip number says. '311.' What does that 14 mean? 15 A. That must be -- I don't know where they 16 start that. That must have been total since he 17 started the airplane. That's way too many for the 18 year. Obviously it's already - it's January, so it 19 must have been total flights. 20 O. Who's on that airplane? 21 A. Nautical miles, statute miles. fuel 22 burned, poundage. 23 and 24 O Do you know 25 A. I -- I think I know her. I think I would 140 1 BY MR. EDWARDS: 2 O. If anything happened on the airplane, it would 3 have been in a position where you couldn't see it anyway. 4 A. That's correct. 5 O. Okay. 6 A. That's correct. 7 O. So you're not saying it did happen or it 8 didn't happen, you just couldn't see past a certain 9 point. 10 A. Correct, and I don't know what you're 11 referring to as 'it' anyways. 12 O. 'It' is whatever sexual involvement there was. 13 A. Oh. Like you say, we can't see anything 14 back there anyhow because the doors are closed. 15 O. Did Mr. Epstein instruct you as to whether or 16 not to knock or just walk back there or never walk back 17 there or what was the instruction? 18 A. No. There was never actually a formal 19 instruction. It's proper protocol for any of these 20 gentlemen, or individuals that own these aircraft, 21 that that's their private zone, that you don't come 22 back unless you're needed, and then you can -- You 23 know, but it's not forebode. it's just proper. 24 O. You mentioned President Clinton on Me plane. 25 How many girls were on the plane al the same time when • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com EFTA00181416
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 141 1 President Clinton was on the plane? 2 MR. REINHART: Asked and answered. 3 A. Yeah, I don't remember for sure. There 4 was probably maybe five, if that, and that's O. What were they -- 6 A. What? 7 O. Go ahead. 8 A. Like I say, it was Ms. Maxwell, 9 maybe two others, one other, and then I think Mr. 10 Clinton had two ladies in his entourage - support 11 staff. 12 O. What age group are we talking about with the 13 ladies that were on the airplane? 14 MR. PIKE: Form. 15 A. Mid-twenties to forties, maybe. I mean, I 16 don't know exactly. 17 O. I mean, you know what a 13 or 14-year-old girl 18 looks like -- 19 A. Yes. 20 O. — right? 21 A. Yes. 22 O. Most people do. 23 A. Yes. 24 O. You wouldn't mistake a 13 or 14 or 15 year old 25 fora 20yearold. 143 1 you familiar with a flight where Prince Andrew was on the 2 airplane? 3 A. I don't know if I remember him being on 4 the airplane or not. I know that he has been on the 5 airplane or one of the airplanes. I can't say for 6 sure. 7 O. Have you met him before? 8 A. I can't remember, honestly. I know. 9 O. Can't remember meeting Prince Andrew? 10 A. I know. I know. I didn't even know who 11 he was when 1 first heard the name, sorry. But, no. 12 I can't remember for sure, I'm sorry. 13 O. That's like if E.T. walked on the airplane and 14 I don't know. 15 A. I know. Well 16 O. Alright. I'll let you slide on that one. You 17 know who Prince Andrew is now. 18 A. Okay. Don't paint me as stupid. One of 19 Lady Di's sons, right? 20 O. I mean, you know what he looks like now. 21 A. You know, honestly, I don't know if I 22 could point him out to you, I'm sorry. 23 O. Alright. 24 A. It's just -- 25 O. We'll forget him. 142 1 A. No, no. 2 MR. PIKE: Form. 3 BY MR. EDWARDS: 4 O. So you're sure that the people that were on the airplane • they were above the ago of 18? 6 A. I believe so. 7 O. Because you, in your experience. as well as 8 the experience of most people your age, would know — 9 A. Right. 10 O. - what a 14 or 15 year old looks like. 11 A. Right. 22 O. I'm going to go through the next flight log. 13 You tell me what we're looking at here. Who's on the 14 airplane? 15 A. That was a deadhead. Nobody's on rt. 16 O. Why were the names crossed out? 17 A. Because there was no passengers. This was 18 - origin was West Palm Beach - West Palm Beach. What 19 date is this? 1/20/04? It was probably a test 20 flight. 21 O. Okay. 22 A. It was a training flight 23 O. Okay. 24 A. -- for Bill. 25 O. The next one -- Well, before I ask this Were 144 1 A. I'm smart in some things. 2 O. Well forget him. We'll forget him. Don't 3 worry about it. 4 What's this? What are we looking at? 5 MR. REINHART: For the record, you handed 6 him a manifest dated January 17. 2005; is that 7 correct? 8 THE WITNESS: January — Yes. Correct. 9 Palm Beach to Kennedy. same thing, fuel 10 bums, loads. destination, time off, time on. 11 Next, it was hip 312. Jeffrey is on it, a, 12 David Mullen, Todd Myster (sic), 13 and passenger, passenger. 14 8Y MR. EDWARDS: 15 O. Do you know Todd Meister? 16 A. He's a friend of his. I believe. 17 O. Fathers Bob Meister? Do you know the names? 18 A. No, I don't know that. 19 O. How do you know Todd Meister? 20 A. I've just heard the name. 21 O. From who? 22 A. Larry Visoski. 23 O. Larry Visoski knows these people? 24 A. I think Todd Meister has an airplane, or 25 something like that. He's talked to their flight Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE www eyiuresclutions (1011 • • • EFTA00181417
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 145 1 crew. 2 a For the most part. when you mention these 3 people's names, you mention them as if they're just 4 passengers on tho airplane and this is their world • 5 you're passing through, you don't know them. 6 A. Right. 7 O. But Visoski would you say that he has a 8 closer relationship with Epstein to where he might know 9 some of these people? 10 MR. PIKE: Form. 11 A. That could be an accurate - yeah. I mean, 12 he's been with Jeffrey longer. I mean -- 13 0. I mean, do you know that Visoski has a car 14 that is registered In Jeffrey Epstein's name? You don't 15 have anything like that, do you? 16 A. No, I did not. 17 0. Were you aware of that? 18 A. No. 19 0. Does Mr. Visoski tell you how far he goes back 20 with Jeffrey Epstein? 21 A. No, just, I mean, when he hired him, 22 whenever that was after Glimcher - that's all I know. 23 0. Do you know anything about Visoski's private 24 life? 25 A. A little bit. He's married and - 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 147 Q. Well, do you know whose handwriting that is? A. No. no, I don't. It may be Larry's. 0. Similar handwriting — A. Wait a minute. 0. — as those — A. Let's see the one with the training • because there's a different pilot on there. 0. Right. One where there is nobody on it. right? A. This is Bill's -- I can't -- This is Bill's writing. I think he was having him fill out the paperwork. 0. Bill Hammond? A. Yeah, this was his training flight. 0. The first one is Visoski? A. Maybe. I can't say for sure. I really can't say for sure. 0. And this is? A. I don't know if that's the same handwriting or not. Q. Well, is there any indication up here that would tell us whose handwriting it is? David Rodgers and Larry Visoski -- A. No, because this is O. are the pilots. 146 1 daughters. I mean -- 2 0. Then I won't go into the rest of his private 3 life. 4 When it says, • 1 pay. I pay.' what does that 5 mean? 6 A. It's 'PAX? P-A-X is short for 7 'passenger.' It's a brief. 0. Okay. Look, this is somebody that is listing 9 names of people on an airplane. They're going out of 10 their way -- 11 A. Right. 12 0. — and then all of a sudden on No. 8 and 9 13 they say, 'one passenger.' Is this person just getting 14 lazy Or is there a reason why there's no name? 15 A. Like I say, just getting lazy and then 16 didn't know who the passenger was. 17 0. Well, they obviously didn't know who Todd 18 Meister was either - they wrote his name all wrong. 19 A. They did? 20 MR. PIKE: Form. 21 BY MR. EDWARDS: 22 0. Well, 'Meister is not spelled like that, so 23 how did -- 24 A. I didn't -- I didn't know that. I don't 25 know how he How does he spell it? 148 1 A. Yeah, but they don't indicate - they don't 2 indicate who's captain that day. You know, I'm not a 3 handwriting expert. I can't really -- Honestly, I 4 can't tell you for sure whose handwriting it was. 5 0. Let's keep this one out, and tell me if this 6 is -- I'm going to hand you January 19.2005 7 MR. REINHART: January 17. 8 MR. EDWARDS: 2005? 9 MR. REINHART: Yes. 10 BY MR. EDWARDS: 11 0. — January 17, 2005, so two days later • whore 12 is this airplane going? 13 A. From Kennedy to Palm Beach. 14 0. And so Ibis is Palm Beach to Kennedy -- 15 A. Yap. 16 0. -- in this exhibit. The next one is Kennedy 17 to Palm Beach. 18 A. Correct. 19 0. They come back Where do they stay - do you 20 know? 21 A_ What do you mean? 22 0. Well, they get off on the 17th, they stay 23 somewhere until they come back on the 19th. Do you 'mow 24 where they stay? 25 MR. REINHART: Can we clarify who 'they' ESQUIRE Almadei G•Ile Cann Toll Free: Facsimile: E M www.esquIresolutions.com EFTA00181418
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 149 1 Is? 2 BY MR. EDWARDS: 3 Q. I guess it is- David Mullen, a , Tod Myster (Sc). I pax, another pax. 5 and Jeffrey Epstein - and there's a crossed 6 out thislarne Maxwell: so I'm assuming she didn't go. A. Coned. 8 I have no idea where they stayed. I 9 assume Jeffrey would stay in his home. would 10 stay in her apartment. As for all the others, I have 11 no idea. 12 O. Have you ever been to Jeffrey Epstein's home 13 in New York? 14 A. Just in the lower level of the entryway. 15 O. Why did you go? 16 A. To pick up bags for the trip to go to the 17 airport and load them. Is Q. Was there anybody else there with him? 19 A. I don't know with him. I never saw him 20 him. We saw the guy that ran the house. 21 O. Who's that - Joe-Joe? 22 A. Joe-Joe would be there - 23 O. What's Joe-Joe's name? 24 A. Joe-Joe. that's aril know, and then 25 there's the actual house manager. Joe•Joe is more of 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 151 O. The next one is January 27. 2005. Palm Beach to where? A. St. Thomas. O. To St. Thomas. A. Right. O. And he has and and Jeffrey. A. Right. O. Does he tell you what happens in St. Thomas? What he does there? A. No. no. O. Ever heard that he imports underage girls from Brazil to his MR. PIKE: Form. O. -- Island In St. Thomas? MR. PIKE: Form. A. No. no, never heard that. O. What does he tell you about his island in St. Thomas? A. Not a lot. I mean, he would sometimes talk about construction stuff or I would hear him - overhear him and Larry talk about the helicopter pad that they're putting in, little stuff like that - all construction. O. Did he tell you two or three times a day, that he sexually abuses girls between 12 and 15 years old? 150 1 a driver, and then there's the house manager - I 2 forget his name. 3 But, yeah, we would meet -- There's an 4 office in tho lower level that the bags would be at. 5 and we would put them in the back of the van, haul 6 them to the airport. 7 O. Who's David Mullen? 8 A. I don't know. I heard of it. It sounds 9 familiar. I can't remember who he is. 10 O. Somebody that lives in New York, Palm Beach? 11 A. I don't know. I don't know. 12 O. I'm trying to keep them in order. 13 So coming back - you know, it looks like they 14 take to JFK: David Mullen, Tod Myster (sic), some 15 passengers unnamed - they come back with only M. M. and - any idea why? 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 A. No, but: I mean, it's not unusual for 19 these guys to, you know, take somebody - let somebody 20 have a free ride to New York if they know them, they 21 are acquaintances, need a lift. I mean, that's not 22 unusual. 23 O. How's that come about - do you know? 24 A. No, I don't - phone conversations, 25 cocktail parties. I don't know. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 152 A. No. MR. PIKE: Form. BY MR. EDWARDS: O. Not something he ever mentions. A. No, no. MR. PIKE: Form. BY MR. EDWARDS: O. The next - 2/3/05 - who's on the passenger list? A. Jeffrey, Jean Luc, David Mullen, female, female, female. O. Any idea why they would list lemale, female, female: without listing the names? A. No, just the same as -- The only idea I would have would be the same reasoning for the - previously when they listed them as just TAX* - that they didn't have any idea who they were, what their name was. O. I mean, certainly that's -- A. I don't know whose handwriting that Is. O. You're guessing, though, right? A. Yeah. No, I'm guessing. I have no idea. O. Another guess would be they're 12 years old and you can't put them on it. MR. PIKE: Form. 0 ESQUIRE "....... Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquireso utions.com • • • EFTA00181419
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 153 A. I wouldn't say that. I don't know that. 2 O. Have you ever been on an airplane where you 3 looked at this and you thought, 'Hey, that's kind of 4 strange that they wouldn't list them by name. They're 5 talking about it generically: Female, female, female"? 6 A. But they also -- MR. PIKE: Form. A. -- on another one: PAX. PAX, PM. O. You never thought that was odd either? A. No. I never actually even really paid attention to this paperwork. I don't see this. MS. EZELL: Brad, excuse me - this is Kathy EzeN - is there a date on that manifest you're showing? MR. EDWARDS: It's 2/3/05. MS. EZELL Thanks. MR. EDWARDS: Is that your 12-year old client listed as No. 6? MR. PIKE: Komi. Move to strike. MS. EZELL: No, but -- MR. EDWARDS: Okay, sorry, somebody else's. MS. EZELL• Okay. Thanks. BY MR. EDWARDS: O. 2/7/05 - who's on there? 155 1 what it says. 2 A. It's -- I think its a 2 - 2/10. 3 O. Alright. Can you tell us who's on that 4 airplane? 5 A. Jeffrey. looks like - is that 6 Jean Luc? 7 O. Yeah. a A. Thai's Jean Luc, I think. and 9 (sic). 10 O. Jean Luc is another one who travels quite 11 frequently. Why, if you know. does he travel quite 12 frequently on these airplanes to and from New York with 13 Jeffrey Epstein - any idea? 14 A. My only assumption was business, and IS that's just an assumption. 16 O. What kind of business do you know of that they 17 have in common? 18 A. I was under the impression a modeling 19 business. 20 O. Other than the modeling agency. what other 21 business do they engage In together, if you know? 22 A. I don't know. 23 O. And has Jeffrey Epstein ever talked to you 24 or loud enough to which you could hear him discussing the zs modeling agency? 154 A. Jeffrey, -• David Mullen, 2 Jansen. 3 O. Do you know who Jansen Is? 4 A. No. 5 O. David Mullen travels a lot. Do you have any 6 idea what his relationship is with Mr. Epstein? 7 A. I don't even know who David Mullen really 8 is. 9 Q. Have you ever seen him? 10 A. I might be able to plate him if I saw a 11 picture of him. 12 O. I mean, obviously you're on the airplane with 13 him a lot. 14 A. Yeah, so, I mean, obviously I would 15 recognize him if I saw a picture. 16 O. Do you know if he travels with anybody else on 17 Ibis? 18 A. Unless its that one name I don't 19 recognize - that Jansen, or whatever. 20 O. But Jansen's not somebody you know? 21 A. No, no. 22 O. I can't read that date - maybe you can. I got 23 a bad lax copy. 24 A. Maybe 2.2/10. 25 O. That's Michael Pike not wanting me to know 156 MR. PIKE: Form. 2 A. No, just that the only conversation he 3 ever - I remember • was the one that he - the one 4 about the girl opening the wrong door on the motor S home. 6 O. Was he happy or sad about the modeling agency? A. No, he was happy she wasn't Injured. but 8 he was kind of making light of what a silly thing to 9 do. you know. 10 O. Do you know if Jean Luc is the one procuring 11 the models or is Jeffrey procuring the models? 12 A. I don't know. 13 MR. PIKE: Form. 14 BY MR. EDWARD$: is Q. You never investigated Into how this modeling 16 agency is doing or anything else? 17 A. No, no interest. 18 O. You try to stay completely out of it? 19 A. No interest. 20 O. Especially in light of the recent things 21 you've read. 22 A. I mean, I didn't have any interest in it 23 before all the recent things. 24 O. I'm going to skip this one because it talks 25 about very similar people that you've already road. • ESQUIRE se Agnate. Gallo [apse, Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com EFTA00181420
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 157 1 A. Okay. 2 0. No different names. 3 MR. REINHART: Can we just get the date on 4 the record? 5 BY MR. EDWARD$: 6 0. Well, actually, we don't have to skip it. 7 2115/05 - that's the date. right? 8 A. Right. 9 0. And it says: Ghislaine Maxwell -- 10 A. Okay. 11 a and 12 (Sic); is that right? 13 A. That's what it says. 14 0. Is that a typical crew that you would see on 15 the plane? 16 A. What year is this? In '05? 17 0. Yes. 18 A. Yes, but towards the end there, I think 19 the last year, I only saw Ms. Maxwell once. 20 0. Do you know of any falling out of sorts that 21 Ghislaine Maxwell and Epstein had? 22 A. Well, no. I think they still -- I think 23 she still has a lot of association, or whatever. 24 0. Do you think they are still a couple? 25 A. I don't know that they ever were. I never 159 1 Stanleys are. 2 0. Ever heard of them? 3 A. No. 4 0. As lar as you're concerned, they're some 5 islanders or something, right? I mean -- 6 A. Well, they night be I mean -- 7 MR. PIKE: Form. 8 A. -- there's a lot of wealthy people down 9 there. They might have been friends or associates 10 that needed a lift back stateside. 11 0. Fair enough. 12 What's the next one? 13 A. Teterboro to PBI. 14 0. And who's on it? 15 A. Jeffrey, M , and M. 16 MR, REINHART: Can we get a date for the 17 record? 18 THE WITNESS: 2/24. 19 BY MR. EDWARDS: 20 0. It seems like and travel a lot 21 with Jeffrey. Is it ever your understanding that Jeffrey 22 Epstein had a sexual relationship with either of them? 23 A. That is not my understanding, no. 24 O. Do you know of having a boyfriend 25 ever? 158 1 did figure out the relationship, other than I assumed 2 they were a couple and she was a business assistant - 3 associate, but that was all assumption. 4 0. Did you ever know of Jeffrey Epstein to have a 5 girlfriend, per se? 6 A. If it would have been, it would have been 7 Ms. Maxwell. 8 0. Other than Ms. Maxwell, could you identify any 9 other female that appeared to be in a intimate 10 relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? 11 A. Not really. not that 1- not that I could 12 say it was a relationship, no. 13 0. I'm going to show you another one. I don't 14 know these people. Tell me who they are. It looks like 15 you're on the airplane -- 16 MR. REINHART: Can we get a -- 17 0. -- and the date is 2/21/05. 18 A. Right. 19 0. Which is ten days after the previous. It's 20 going -- 21 A. I don't know who the Stanleys are. 22 0. And it's going from the island. 21 A. To -- 24 0. Palm Beach, 25 A. Palm Beach. I don't know who the 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 160 A. I heard that she has a boyfriend. 2 0. And what's his name? 3 A. And this is just hearsay. I don't know. 4 0. I'm interested in hearsay. 5 A. I heard that she's dating somebody - 6 that's an. 7 0. Dati whom? A. 0. A. I don't know his last name. Q. How long has she been dating him? A. I don't know. This Is just Larry, you know, every once in a while asks. you know, 'What's going on?' 'Who's' You know, I don't know. 0. Where doesIMI live? A. I think he's down here. I think he's one of Mr. Epstein's legal team or something or .- 0. Ana somebody who you heard of through Larry Visoski? A. Yes, yes. 0. And specifically what did Larry Visoski say aboutM? A. He thought that they were dating - he and - and this is all hearsay. 0. Since when? 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: ... a www.esqu reSo utions.com • • • EFTA00181421
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 6 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 161 A. This is all -- I don't remember. Some 2 time within - maybe within the year. I don't know. 3 I don't know. 4 O. So it's your understanding then that it 5 is in West Palm Beach or in the area, and he is dating somebody named that it would also be a fair presumption that would be somewhere nearby as well. MR. PIKE: Form. A. I mean, that's not neCessanly so. I mean, in this day and age when you can get back and forth to New York via airlines. or anywhere: I mean, at times. yes, that would be a fair assumption, but not continuously. O. And what was the context in which the conversation came up where Larry Visoski says,". - who you have very little knowledge, I mean, I don't want to say 'very little knowledge' - you obviously have seen her several times -- A. Yes. is dating this person and his name is_'? Obviously that's a strange namo, so that's something you would probably remember. A. Right, right. O. Otherwise, how would that come about? 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 22 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 163 attorney. O. And what else does he tell you? I mean, there are other changes other than, 'Hey, dating A. A couple of the - couple of long time people at the ranch were laid off. O. Such as who? A. Oh, God - Mike and =. O. Mike and =? A. Yeah. O. And those are people that run the Zorro Ranch -- A. They don't run It. O. - in New Mexico? A. They work there, yeah. And other changes to the island. You know, I can't remember all the names. I believe Adam, who was the chef, at the Island left. MR. PIKE: Hello? BY MR. EDWARDS: O. Adam's the chef at the island? A. Yes. O. And why did he leave? A. I don't -- O. Epstein's not around to cook for? 162 1 A. I don't remember how it came about, 2 actually. I think I just - several months ago I 3 asked what people were doing since, you know. there's 4 been a lot of changes in staff since the boss was, 5 you know, detained. There's been a lot of layoffs 6 and stuff. The conversation was he was updating rile 7 as to who's still around, who's been laid off, you 8 know, who's not with the company anymore, who's not 9 with, you know, at certain houses. 10 O. When you say 'the boss' has been 'detained,' 11 the boss obviously is Jeffrey Epstein? 12 A. Correct. Yes. 13 O. And you're having a conversation then with 14 Larry Visoski about the changes that necessarily are 15 made -- 16 A. Right. 17 O. because the boss is -- 18 A. Well -- 19 O. either incarcerated or under house arrest. 20 or whatever. 21 A. And the economy and everything. I mean. 22 O. In the course of that he tells you something 23 about, "Well,MI is dating 24 A. Yeah, or - I think he said something about 25 one of Jeffrey - the paralegal or something, the 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 164 A. Yeah. It may have been a layoff kind of thing - and the economy too. I mean, everybody's affected. O. What's your understanding about Mike and A. Just that they were laid off. I don't know the exact reasoning that they were laid off. O. And before we go back to this: Have you ever been to that Zorro Ranch -- A. Yes. Q. -- in New Mexico? A. Yes. O. How many times? A. Several. O. Why? A. Because when we take them out there it was too far to airline home. so we'd stay - stay at the ranch. O. And what was he there to do? A. I have no idea. O. Well, you were at the ranch, right? A. Yeah, but it's a big complex. There's -- The main house is literally probably 3 or 4 miles from where we stay. O. Was there also? • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: Suite 1300 515 East Las Olas Boulevard Fort Lauderdale, FL 33301 www.esquiresolutlons.com EFTA00181422
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 IS 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A. O. A. O. A. is. O. And was somebody there to schedule his people to come over and see him on a daily basis? A. I don't know. I don't know how that worked. O. Ha -- A. Like I say, he's up at the main house. Once we were at the ranch there's really no contact. O. Yeah, but I'm familiar with where this ranch is, and it's kind of in the middle of nowhere, right? A. Yeah. O. And. you know, so when people come to or Irom the ranch, I mean, you can't help but almost be familiar that somebody's coming, right? A. Well -- MR. PIKE: Form. A. -- I mean, you would see a car drive by or something or a truck. There's always a lot of activity, construction, and everything else going on. Where we stayed at Ranch Central, the 165 I'm sure at times, yes, yes. Well. I mean, usually he goes with his -- The normal his S his Ghislaine. Yeah, his normal entourage. or whatever it 167 1 Mexico ranch? 2 A. Oh, no. no. 3 O. You don't remember that? 4 A. No. 5 Q Could it have happened? 6 A. It could have. 7 O. But you just don't remember seeing that. 8 A. No, I don't ever remember seeing that. 9 O. Have you ever met Governor Bill Richardson? to A. I saw him. He was -- 11 O. How did you see him? 12 A. He was at Ranch Central. He had been 13 invited for dinner, or something, at the main house 14 and they were coming down to get him. 15 O. He was invited to the Zeno Ranch. I call it 16 that because that's apparently what Mr. Epelein's named 17 it, right? 18 A. Yes. 19 O. So Bill Richardson came to the Zorro Ranch for 20 what? 21 A. I It was a dinner meeting or something. 22 I don't know. 23 O. Do -- 24 A. I think Mr. Richardson used to own the 25 properly the ranch was built on, or something. I 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 166 small, little • basically like little hotel rooms where we stayed, you know, it was on a busy road because there was always like a lot of construction stuff and the ranch hands and everything up and down. O. Did you see girls going to visit him there? A. Yes. Q. How often would girls go to visit him there? A. I don't know. O. Did these -- A. Not that often. O. Did these seem like girls local to New Mexico or had they just Ilown in on an airplane. landed a helicopter on the property? A. Oh, I don't know. I never -- MR. PIKE: Form. A. I never saw them up close. I mean -- O. Did they come in taxicabs? MR. PIKE: Form. A. I can't remember that • don't think so. Q. You don't ever think a girl came in a taxicab to the New Mexico ranch? A. I don't ever remember seeing a taxicab on the ranch. O. Do you remember seeing girls two or three times a day going to visit him while he was at the New 168 1 don't know. 2 O. Did you stay for the dinner? 3 A. Oh, no, no. I was down at Ranch Central 4 and he was just there while they were going to escort s him up to the main house. 6 O. So Bill Richardson was where Epstein was where 7 the dinner was. 8 A. Yes, yes. 9 O. And you were not there. 10 A. Of course not. 11 O. Who else besides Bill Richardson was there? 12 A. I have no idea. 13 O. Any knowledge of Bill Richardson being 14 involved with any of the girls that would have been 15 brought to the house? 16 A. Oh, no. no, not that I have. 17 O. Not that I know ot. 18 A. Not that I know. no. 19 O. Because you were in such a place that you 20 never would have known anyway, right? 21 A. That's correct, yeah. 22 O. What's your understanang as to Bill 23 Richardson's connexion to Mr. Epstein? 24 A. I thought he was always just kind of 25 politics. I believe - I heard at one time, I don't S ESQUIRE at Al yak r 041/4 Sarni Toll Free: Facsimile: MM. www.esqulresolutlons.com • • • EFTA00181423
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 169 1 know for a fact - I thought that part of the property 2 the Zorro was built on was owned by Bill Richardson. 3 He sold it to Jeffrey. 4 Q. Ever known Bill Richardson to be on Epstein's airplane? 6 A. No. not the Boeing. 7 Q. Any plane. 8 A. I don't know that. 9 0. Was he ever on a plane that you were on? to A. No, not that I remember, not that I 11 remember. I remember -- I believe the only time I 12 met him was one time at Ranch Central. 13 O. Ever hear of a trust - Zorro Trust? 14 A. No. 15 O. Are you familiar with some of Epstein's 16 companies? 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 A. No. I mean, other than JEGE and Hyperion 19 and Air Ghislaine. 20 Q. What's Air Ghislaine? 21 A. That's the helicopters - that's what 22 they're under. 23 Q. He named it after Ghislaine Maxwell? 24 A. Apparently so. I would assume so. 25 Q. Well. I mean, I'm not trying to be difficult 171 1 O. You've never heard that? 2 A. No, no. 3 O. Have y0u ever been privy to any conversations 4 between Bill Richardson and Jeff Epstein? 5 A. No. 6 O. So you don't know what they were really 7 talking about. B A. No. No idea. 9 O. At the time when Bill Richardson was running 10 for president • Is that around the time when you remember 11 him being at Zorro Ranch? 12 A. Before, before. What year did he run for 13 president? 14 O. 2007. Is A. It had to have been well before because I 16 quit flying in February Of '07, so. 17 O. Epstein ever tell you what his relationship is 18 with Bill Richardson? 19 A. No. 20 O. When you were at the ranch, did you ever 21 notice underage girls at the ranch? 22 A. No. 23 MR. PIKE: Form. 24 BY MR. EDWARDS: 25 O. Anybody ever told you that that ranch is used 170 1 with you. 2 A. No, I wouldn't -- 3 O. I'm assuming you're not trying with me either. 4 A. No. I would assume so. I mean, that's an 5 unusual name. 6 O. Do you know Prince Andrew to be friends with 7 Jeffrey Epstein? 8 MR. PIKE: Form. 9 A. No, I don't know that — I don't know what 10 the tie is. Like I say, I didn't know even know who 11 Prince Andrew is when I first heard of it. I would 12 have thought it would have been more of a tie with 13 Ms. Maxwell. 14 O. Right. Do you know of Ms. Maxwell bringing 15 the two, that being Prince Andrew, together with Mr. 16 Epstein? 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 A. That could be, yes, yep. 19 O. And at the time when Bill Richardson had this 20 meeting at Epstein's house, do you remember Glislaine 21 Maxwell also being there? 22 A. Can't say for sure. Can't say for sure. 23 O. Have you heard of Jeffrey Epstein winning the 24 lottery in New Mexico? 25 A. No. 172 1 to transport girls through Mexico to the ranch? 2 A. No. 3 MR. PIKE: Form. 4 BY MR. EDWARDS: 5 O. The next exhibit that I'm going to show you - 6 which is all part of Composite Exhibit 1 - is a flight 7 log 2/24/05: is that right? 8 A. Yes. 9 O. Who's on that? Nobody. mars a test flight? 10 A. That's a test flight round robin. Ifs 11 only 17 minutes. 12 O. 3/1/05. 13 A. 3/I/05 is PRI to Kennedy with Jeffrey, 14 Ma and IM 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 O. Do you know what his relationship is with IIIIP A. No. O. Do you know what she does for him? A. No, only Isn't that the one that you told me - you just mentioned earlier? I have no idea what her relationship is. O. Has he ever told you what any of his employees actually do for him • why he employs so many people to do so many different things • has he told you that? MR. PIKE: Form • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esqulresolutions.com EFTA00181424
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 173 A. No• no. I mean, you know, who runs each 2 house and who the driver is, stuff like that. No, he 3 would never mention that. 4 O. Has he ever told you what running a house 5 entails? 6 A. No, no. 7 O. Has he ever told you that there's an extra 8 part of running the house that ensures that underage 9 girls are going to be there for him every day? 10 A. No. 11 MR. PIKE: Form. 12 BY MR. EDWARDS: 13 O. That's not something you ever heard. 14 A. No. 15 O. 3/4/2005 flight log - who's on it? 16 A. Jeffrey, Ghislaine Maxwell, David Mullen. 17 18 Q. David Mullen • once again, we don't know who 19 this guy is, do you? 20 A. And I don't know. Honestly. I can't 21 O. Do you know where he lives? 22 A. No. 23 O. Did you ever go visit Jeffrey Epstein while he 24 was in jail? 25 A. No. 175 1 O. And despite pleading guilty to procuring 2 underage girls for the purposes of sex, you still feel 3 comfortable leaving a 13, 14, 15-year-old girl around 4 him? 5 MR. PIKE: Form. Move to strike. 6 A. Yes. I mean, with my daughter, yes. I 7 don't know how he behaves around anybody else. I B just know that the respect that he showed me, I feel 9 safe with my daughter. 10 Q. And have you read in detail the reports as to 11 what happened at his house with the girls? 12 A. Only - 13 MR. PIKE: Form. 14 A. •• what's been in the newspapers and 15 published. 16 O. If you read and hear testimony given • well, I 17 can tell you now - testimony has been given in this case le that what happens is: A 13 or 14 year old is led 19 upstairs by herself, told to gel naked, he lays down on 2o his back, there is a brief massage before he turns over. 21 exposes himself erect. masturbates while he tells this 13 22 or 14 year old to pinch his nipples as hard as she can 23 while he Inserts his fingers into their vagina and 24 ejaculates all over them before saying, Take your money 25 and leave.' 174 1 O. Why not? 2 A. There was no purpose to it. There was no 3 need to. 4 O. He's your boss for a long time, right? 5 A. Yeah. 6 O. Was he good to you? 7 A. Yes. 8 O. Did you support him? 9 A. Yes. 10 O. You supported him while he was in jail? 11 A. I was Yes, I mean. 12 O. Did the allegations bother you? 13 A. Yes. 14 MR. PIKE: Form. 15 BY MR. EDWARDS: 16 O. Somebody that you still support despite the 17 allegations? 18 MR. PIKE: Form. 19 A. Yes, yes. 20 O. You realize that he did plead guilty to the 21 offenses as well, right? 22 A. That's what I read. 23 MR. PIKE: Form. Move to strike. That's 24 not the facts. 25 BY MR. EDWARDS: 176 MR. PIKE: Form. Move to strike. 2 BY MR. EDWARDS: 3 O. Okay? Then, 'You can continue to come back 4 for 5200 every time or every girt you bring me within s your age group and I get to do this again. I pay you $200 6 per person.' If that is the testimony -- 7 MR. PIKE: Form. O. -- that what happens behind closed doors with 9 him, do you still feel comfortable leaving a 13 or 14 10 year old in a room with Jeffrey Epstein? 11 MR. PIKE: Form. 12 A. If that, in fact, is what actually 13 happened, no. la O. I'll show you the next flight log is 3/8/05. 15 Here, just so these are in order, III • 3/8/05. 16 A. Okay. 17 Q. Who's on that airplane? 18 Jeffrey, and 19 O. Seem to be people that he travels with 20 frequently. 21 A. Yes, normal - his normal entourage. 22 O. Have you read recently the agreement that was 23 entitled the 'Non-Prosecution Agreement'? 24 A. No. All I read was what was in the paper. 25 O. The 'Non-Prosecution Agreement was an ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquireso utIons.com • • • EFTA00181425
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 9 10 11 12 13 14 IS 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 177 1 agreement between Epstein and the government where the 2 government agreed, 'We're not going to prosecute you for 3 only tho sex crimes we know about; and in that they also 4 agree not to prosecute Jeffrey Epstein, M, or _ -- 6 A. Okay. 7 O. -- as his co-conspirators. 8 Do you know any of the acts that M. M, or have done in an attempt to get Jeffrey Epstein young girls to molest? A. Only what I've read in the paper. MR. PIKE: Move to strike. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Again, Jeffrey Epstein. Ghislaine Maxwell. and who's that? MR. REINHART: Can we get a date, please? BY MR. EDWARDS: O. Sony. the date is 3/18/05. On this flight log, who are the names? A. Ghislaine - Jeffrey. Ghislaine Maxwell, and Q. Do you know Ghislaine Maxwell on a social level or only from him? A. No. just professional O. Do you know whether she is straight or 179 1 Q. This is the first time we've seen 2 mentioned on any flight logs, right? 3 A. Fight. 4 O. Do you find it at all peculiar that 5 is listed but certain other people who may or may not be 6 of age are listed generically • one female. Why would 7 they go out of their way to list MR. PIKE: Form. 9 A. I don't know. Maybe she was already an 10 employee or something. I don't know. 11 O. If she's an employee at the time. then that 12 would be a good explanation, right? 13 A. Right. I don't know. 14 a if she's not an employee, then is there any 15 explanation? 16 MR. PIKE: Form. 17 A. Unless No. I don't know. I don't Is know. Maybe Bill asked her. That looks like Bill's 19 writing there when he was captain. 20 O. We'll move to 3/22/05. 21 A. Okay. 22 O. Who's listed? 23 A. Actually, this wasn't even my flight. 24 This is: Jeffrey, =, female, female 25 - PSI to Kennedy. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 is 19 20 21 22 23 24 178 bisexual? Do you know of any of her girlfriends? A. I do not know that. O. Are you aware that Ghislaine Maxwell, In sworn testimony and In complaints, has been alleged to have used vibrators. dildos, and have sex with these underage girls as well? A. I don't -- MR. PIKE: Form. A. I was not aware of that. O. Do you know who A. Q. A. I belly° so. yeah, because " an unusual name. O. Do you know if MI is underage or if she is of age at the time that this happened - at the time they list her name? A. Oh, I don't know for sure, but. I mean, she • when I If it is the I remember, she was older. I mean. I can't even guess her age, mid-twenties, late twenties, I mean. O. Okay. Do you -- A. If it's the 180 1 O. mars not your flight? 2 A. No. Diaz is one of the few 3 engineers I used as a relief. See his name written 4 in up there? 5 O. Yes, but it has your name written under 6 right? 7 A. Well, yeah, because these are pre-printed 8 forms. They neglected to scratch my name out. 9 O. My idea why now they're going to list 'one 10 female, one renal'? That doesn't seem to be protocol II here, does it? 12 A. I don't Yeah. I have no idea. I don't 13 have an answer for that, I really don't. 14 O. Cenainly, if you're able to get to 15 tell you her name, it doesn't take much effort to get two 16 other people to tell you their name, right? 17 A. Like I say, the only thing I can think of 18 is if an employee by that tine. that they knew 19 her. I don't know. 20 O. Did it ever at any point in time cross your 21 mind that there may be something illegal going on here - 22 ever? 23 MS. EZELL: Form. 24 MR. PIKE: Form. 25 A. Define 'here.' • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquireSOlUtions.Com EFTA00181426
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 181 1 O. Here when you're traveling on the airplane 2 with these various girls and they're listed as 'one 3 female' • generically listed - anything ever cross your 4 mind, 'maybe something's not exactly kosher"? 5 A. No. 6 MR. PIKE: Form, asked and answered 7 several times. 8 BY MR. EDWARDS: 9 O. Who's that? The date is 3/31/05. 10 A. Jeffrey, Ghislaine, and M. 11 O. Lets see, 10/15 and 10/17, both look like 12 nobody's on them, so I'll show them to you together. 13 A. There might be remarks here: 'Maintenance 14 test flight' out of Lake City, Florida. 15 We were coming out of maintenance: 'No 16 passengers, maintenance, relocation lot the engineer 17 repair.' 18 O. Okay. 4/6/05 - who's on it? 19 A. Jeffrey, MI. Oavid Mullen, 20 21 22 23 24 25 O. Last one. A. Jeffrey • 6/8/05 - David Mullen. Mark Zen — CI. Do you know who Mark Zefl is? A. No Doug Shuttle, M. 183 1 A. I can't I can't say for sure. I mean. 2 we used to carry a massage table on the airplane. I 3 never saw one used. I don't know for sure. 4 O. Are you being paid to be here today? A. No, no. I mean, I'm on salary. I mean -- 6 O. Right. 7 A. -- because of - for the maintenance, but, 8 no. 9 O. Are you going to ask Jeffrey Epstein at some 10 point in time, 'Why you hired an attorney to sit here 11 with me?' 12 A. No. 11 MR. PIKE: Form. 14 A. I would never I would not approach 15 Jeffrey for that. 16 O. Do you have any idea why Jeffrey Epstein might 17 want an attorney to sit here for you? 18 MR. PIKE: Form. 19 A. No. I mean, maybe -- I don't know. 20 O. Do you think that the attorney sitting here is 21 for the purpose so that you don't say anything to 22 incriminate Jeffrey Epstein? 23 A. No, no. I was told strictly that he was 24 here upon my behalf. 25 O. Do you know of any crimes, personally, that 182 1 O. Do you know who and are? 2 A. I think I remember - sounds familiar. 3 O. How did she look? 4 A. I can't remember. I just -- 5 O. Overage, underage? 6 MR. PIKE: Form. 7 A. I never saw any that I saw that looked to a me underage. 9 O. Have you ever been to Jeffrey Epstein's house 10 • his Palm Beach house? 11 A. Yes. 12 O. You stayed for an entire day? 13 A. No, no. 14 O. No? 15 A. It would be like an hour at the most 16 waiting to talk to him for a minute. No. 17 O. Let me ask it this way: Has he ever told you la that he's infatuated with massages? 19 A. No. he's never told me that. 20 MR. PIKE: Form. 21 BY MR. EDWARDS: 22 O. Have you ever known him to get a professional 23 massage anywhere you go? 24 A. Yeah, I believe so. 25 O. Where? 184 1 you witnessed Jeffrey Epstein committing? 2 A. No. 3 O. Would you - 4 A. No. 5 O. -- go back • considering what you've read and 6 what you may or may not believe - would you go back to 7 working for Jeffrey Epstein? 8 MR. PIKE: Form. 9 A. I can't say. I still work for him on a 10 maintenance - to maintain the airplanes and stuff 11 like that, so. 12 O. You're on his payroll? 13 A. Salaried, yes. 14 O. Do you know who else is on his payroll? 15 A. Well. Dave and Larry. 16 O. Certainly, if I want to know more about his 17 private life - do you know who's at his house? le A. No. 19 O. Do you know who his housekeeper is? 20 A. No. 21 O. Do you know who his architect is? 22 A. No. no. 23 O. Does Larry visit him at his house? 24 A. I would assume so. 25 O. Why do you say you would assume so? That 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esguiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181427
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 185 1 means he told you something, right? 2 A. Well, he handles -- Jeffrey does a lot of 3 - he likes high-end stereo equipment and video 4 equipment, and Larry is an expert at audio and video 5 installations and stuff. 6 O. How about David Rodgers - ever at his house? 7 A. Probably, but more like on the grounds of 8 me, you know. 9 O. Any other famous people that you met through 10 Jeff Epstein? 11 A. On the airplane? 12 O. Yes. 13 A. Walter Cronkite. 14 O. Oh, yeah? 15 A. He was very nice. Yeah. He was very 16 feeble, but he was very nice. We had to carry him 17 down the steps. O. Where did that flight go to? 19 A. New York to St. Thomas. He's an avid 20 sailor. He loves to sail or loved to sail. 21 O. What's the magician's name - David 22 Coppedield? 23 A. No, I don't think I was on that. I don't 21 think I flew that. I heard that we had flown him. I 25 can't say for sure. I would remember that. I would 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 187 A. Yes. I guess. Yeah. I don't know exactly. O. Have you ever heard of know -- O. A. O. A. O. A. O. A. some form • associate of Jeffrey or Ghislaine's or both. O. And where does he live? A. I think he lives in California, I believe. O. What do you know about him? A. Well, he's - just al I just told you. I think he's - he's an options writer or something like - not an options writer, hedge funds or something like that. He's in money. It's He's got an airplane. I think he's got a quarter share or part of an airplane. O. Do you know anybody that owns any properly sounds familiar, but I don't No. I can't say that I have. Elena Weber? Can't say that I have. Glenn Dubin? Glenn Dubin, yes. How do you know him? I think he's a money or finance manager of 186 1 remember it. I have never met David Copperfield, but 2 I heard that we had. Naomi Campbell - flew her a 3 couple times. 4 O. What do you understand Naomi Campbell and 5 Jeffrey Epstein's relationship to bo? 6 A. I don't. I assume it was modeling. I 7 don't know. It was like two trips. a O. Jeffrey Epstein ever tell you how long he was 9 in the modeling industry? 10 A. Nevor discussed it. 11 O. So the first you know of is whatever 12 involvement he's in with Jean Luc Brunel. 13 A. Right. 14 Q. That's the first time -- 15 A. Yes. 16 Q. you've never known him to be in modeling. 17 A. Correct, that I was aware of. And, la actually, nobody ever told me that but picking up 19 bits of conversation like such as the one about the 20 motor home door. 21 O. What exactly did he say about the motor home 22 door that led you to know that Epstein and modeling is -- 23 A. They were at - on location fora modeling 24 shoot and they had a motor home. 25 O. -They' meaning Jeffrey Epstein and somebody. 188 1 with Epstein? 2 A. No. 3 O. What other properties does Jeffrey Epstein 4 own? I know we talked about the Zorro Ranch, the place 5 in New York, you talked about an island. West Palm Beach. 6 A. That's all that I'm aware of. 7 O. How about Paris? 8 A. I don't know that he owns them. That's 9 where he goes for homes. 10 O. Ever go to Paris with him? it A. He does have an apartment in Paris. I 12 don't know - however that works out, if it's a lease 13 or own or what. 14 O. Who are the house managers of the yar10,IS 15 places that he owns? 16 MR. PIKE: Form. 17 A. I don't know anymore. There has been so 18 much shake up, you know. 19 O Well. who were they? Do you know the 20 Freidman out in California? Do you know Eve and 21 Patrick? 22 A. No. 23 Q. Alfredo Rochigue7? 24 A. No. 25 Q. Alright. • CO ESQUIBE Toll Free: Facsimile: vnvw.esquiresolutions.com EFTA00181428
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 189 A. No, those are ali t know. 2 O. You tell me. Who do you know? 3 A. God, I can't think. It's been so long 4 ago. 5 O. Other than Joe-Joe. 6 A. Well, Joe-Joe doesn't • he's just a driver 7 for New York - he and his wife. I could remember 8 them if I saw their names. I would know which house 9 they were associated with. I'm terrible with names 10 anymore. unfortunately. The couple that's now at the 11 ranch or was at the ranch is at the island helping 12 manage as an intern. 13 0. Who's that? 14 A. Honestly, I can't remember their names. 15 If you were to give me a name, I could attach it to 16 each house. 17 O. I wish I could. 18 A. Yeah, I'm sorry, I Can't. It's just -- 19 0. Do you know Matisse Vasquez? 20 A. No. Marisa sounds familiar. I don't 21 know. 22 O. Something to do with the modeling agency? 23 A. Can't say for sure - can't say. 24 O. How about Kalib Shalom? 25 A. No, never heard of that one. 191 1 O. Do you remember a young woman named g who 2 flew frequently with Jeffrey Epstein? 3 A. No. I don't recall a 4 O. You mentioned 5 A. AM, yes. I remember the name 6 O. Can you describe M? 7 A. No. I'm sorry. I can't. I just recognize s the name • or the sound of the name. 9 O. Do you have any recollection as to what period 10 of time flew with Mr. Epstein? 11 A. It was on one of those Passenger 12 Manifests. I thought I only saw it one time. 13 MR. REINHART: Kathy - this is Bruce • the 14 passenger manifest that had that name on it was is dated June 8, 2005. 16 MS. EZELL: So all of those that Brad went 17 over were '04 and n5, I believe. 18 MR. REINHART: Correct. 19 BY MS. EZELL: 20 O. Let's see. did you ever fly Mr. Epstein to St. 21 Louis? 22 A. No. 23 O. Did you ever fiy him to San Francisco? 24 A. No. 25 O. What about France? 190 MR. EDWARDS: Let me look over my notes 2 real fast. Anybody else going to have some 3 questions so I can look over my notes and maybe 4 ask a couple more? 5 MR. PIKE: Brad, when I get a chance to 6 cross, I definitely will have some questions for 7 the witness. MR. EDWARDS: Okay. Any other plaintiff 9 attorneys? Kathy? I think Kathy quit on us • 10 must have been too boring. Anybody else? 11 Hold on Mike. Give me one minute and then 12 I think you can shoot. 13 MS. EZELL: Brad? 14 MR. EDWARDS: Yes? is MS. EZELL: I'm sorry, it's Kathy. I 16 didn't realize my mute was on. I do have a few 17 questions. 18 MR. EDWARDS: Okay. Go ahead. 19 CROSS-EXAMINATION 20 BY MS. EZELL: 21 O. Mr. Morrison • forgive me. I didn't write it 22 down • when did you begin working for Mr. Epstein? 23 A. January 2001. 24 O. Do you remember a young woman named 25 A. No. I'm sorry. I can't - I don't. 192 i A. Yes. Paris. 2 O. And Spain? 1 A. No. mope. 4 O. Carmen s A. Carmel? 6 MR. REINHART: California. Kathy? 7 MS. EZELL: Yes. A. No. we wouldn't have -- Was that Monterey 9 area? 10 MR. REINHART: Yes. 11 A. Yes. 12 O. Monterey you did. okay. 13 Do you remember a woman named Emmy • who would 14 accompany Elaine (sic) Maxwell? 15 A. Yes. I remember Emmy. I believe she was 16 Britian Cr -- 17 O. And what was her function? 18 A. To the best of my knowledge. she was MS. 19 Maxwell's assistant. 20 O. Did there come a point in time where ms. 21 Maxwell flew her own plane? 22 A. No. 23 O. Did there come a lime that you became aware 24 Mat she and Jeffrey Epstein were hying separately? 25 A. Yes. ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: I =Ma www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181429
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 193 1 O. And whose plane would she fly on on those 2 occasions? 3 A. I don't know. There was She had a 4 fractional - of a flight options. She had some 5 flight options. When you said -- Can I ask -- 6 O. Yes. 7 A. -- when you stated, *Did she fly her own 8 planer, did you mean as a pilot? 9 O. Yes, yes. 10 A. No. no. I stand with, no. 11 O. Did you ever know her to fly a helicopter? 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. And when was that? 14 A. Several times. I don't remember exactly 15 when she got her initial rating. Can't remember 16 exactly when she got her initial rating. It was 17 before - I think before - maybe around 2000, 2001. I 18 don't know that for a fact. 19 O. Among the various pilots that you have worked 20 with for Jeffrey Epstein, do you know of any who has a 21 house on the Zorro Ranch properly? 22 A. Yes. 23 O. And who is that? 24 A. Larry Visoski. 25 O. And do you know if he was given that house by 195 1 A. I can't say that I have, no. I cant say 2 that I did. 3 O. Do you remember flying three young girls back 4 to France after Mr. Epstein's birthday party? 5 A. No. no, I can't say that I do, and I 6 didn't remember what birthday - that there was a big 7 birthday party. O. Olcay. Well, forget the party part. 9 A. Okay. 10 O. Were you aware that Mr. Brunel flew in three 11 12-year-old girls for Mr. Epstein's pleasure on his 12 birthday? 13 A. No. I was not aware of that, no. 14 O. And you have no recollection of having young 15 women that young on flights that you were flying on? 16 A. That's correct. 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 BY MS. EZELL: 19 O. I don't have any other questions. Thank you. 20 A. Thank you. 21 MR. EDWARDS: Mike. I don't really think 22 anybody sony. 23 CROSS-EXAMINATION 24 BY MR. WILLITS: 25 O. Richard Willits here. I just have one 194 1 Jeffrey Epstein? 2 A. I do not know. 3 O. Were you ever given any properties by Mr. 4 Epstein? 5 A. No. 6 O. You said that you did know Mr. Jean Luc 7 Brunel? 8 A. Yes. I knew of him - and it was as an 9 acquaintance - as a passenger. 10 Q. Did you fly him to and from Paris? 11 A. Yes. 12 O. Do you ever remember flying three girls from 13 Paris for Mr. Brunel -- 14 MR. PIKE: Form. 15 O. -- to be guests of Mr. Epstein? 16 MR. PIKE: Form. 17 A. I can't say that I remember that exactly, 18 no, and I didn't know who - whose guests they were 19 for who. 20 Q. Do you remember flying three young girls to 21 Mr. Epstein's birthday party? 22 MR. PIKE: Form. 23 A. I don't -- 24 Q. I'm sony, I meant from France. 25 MR. PIKE: Form. 196 1 question, sir. I didn't catch the complete and full 2 spelling of your name. 3 A. My name? 4 O. Yes, sir - the witness? 5 A. Irs Larry - Lima. Alpha. Romeo, Romeo. 6 Yankee • and last name is Morrison - Mike. Oscar. 7 Romeo, Romeo, India, Sierra, Oscar. November. MR. WILLITS: Thank you, sir. 9 MR. EDWARDS: Mike, shoot. 10 MR. PIKE: Thank you. Thank you. 11 CROSS-EXAMINATION 12 BY MR. PIKE: 13 O. Mr. Morrison. my name is Michael Piko. 14 represent Jeffrey Epstein. 15 A. Hi. 16 O. I'm gong to ask you a couple of questions. 17 If you do not hear me. please ask me to repeat the 10 question • as I'm on a telephone - and by virtue of being 19 on the telephone, I've noticed that there's some lag time 20 between some answers and responses. 21 MR. PIKE: So, Brad. Interrupt me, Atm 22 talking over the witness as wet 21 BY MR. PIKE: 24 O. Mr. Morrison, Mr. Edwards was tallong to you 25 about your knowledge and information regarding passengers • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com EFTA00181430
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 197 1 on Mr. Epstein's plane from January 1, 2001, up until the 2 time you stopped flying. Do you recall some of those 3 questions? 4 A. Yes. 5 O. With regard to the female passengers that Mr. 6 Edwards discussed with you, do you recall if any of them 7 ever left the plane in a scared manner? A. No, no. 9 O. Did any of those girls ever appear to be 10 disheveled to you in any way? 11 A. No. 12 0. Did any of these girls that were on the plane 13 ever claim to be battered or sexually assaulted? 14 A. Not tome, no. 15 0. Did any of these women appear to be in shock 16 to you? 17 A. No. 18 MR. EDWARDS: Object to the form. 19 By MR. PIKE: 20 0. Were any of these women ever crying as they 21 exited the plane when you were the pilot? 22 A. No. not that I saw. 23 0. Did any of these women appear to be injured as 24 they exited the plane when you were a pilot? 25 A. No. not that I saw. 199 1 first. 2 MR. PIKE: I have no further questions. 3 MR. EDWARDS: I have a couple more - just 4 follow-up • from what Kathy asked. REDIRECT EXAMINATION 6 BY MR. EDWARDS: 7 0. Did any of the people - along Mike Pike's a lines - did any of the girls on the airplane tell you 9 that he pled guilty to two felonies in court? to MR. PIKE: Form. 11 A. No, I haven't - I have not spoken to Mr. 12 Epstein. I don't believe -- 13 0. No, no. I think the question was: Did any of 14 the girls tell you that Mr. Epstein pled guilty in court? 15 A. Which girls? 16 0. Any of the girls on the airplane that we're 17 talking about. 18 A. No, I don't think -- Actually. I don't 19 know when he pled because I think I was - stopped z o flying by then. 21 0. So there were a lot of things that happened on 22 the airplane that the girls didn't necessarily tell you 23 about, right? 24 MR. PIKE: Form. 25 A. That I wasn't — Like I Say, going back to 198 1 O. Did any of these women ever tell you, as the 2 captain of the plane, that they were forced to do 3 something against their will while a passenger on the 4 plane? 5 MR. EDWARDS: Object to the form. 6 A. I was -- Actually, to correct the question, I guess I was not captain - I was flight e engineer • but, no. 9 0. Did they ever tell you that they had been 10 forced to do anything inappropriate? 11 A. No. 12 0. Did they ever tell you that they had been 13 assaulted in any way? 14 A. No. 15 0. Did they ever tell you that they had been 16 inappropeatety touched in any way? 17 A. No. le MR. EDWARDS: Form. 19 BY MR. PIKE: 20 0. Did they ever tell you or did you ever hear of 21 anyone claiming that they had been sexually assaulted. 22 battered, or raped while on the plane? 23 MR. EDWARDS: Form. 24 A. No. 25 MR. REINHART: Give him a chance to object 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 200 - there was not even an opportunity or window for that question, because I believe it was after February of '07. O. That's true. Did any of the girls Co the airplane tell you about things that happened on the airplane that he later pled guilty to? MR. PIKE: Fenn. A. No. 0. Did any of the girls on the airplane really talk to you? A. No. O. Okay, so all of this is kind of silly. Alright. Gel it. Emmy would accompany Ms. Maxwell. When you Say "would accompany her?" what did you mean about that? A. She was like her assistant. Actually. I don't -- I didn't see Emmy very many times. I don't know when she stopped working there. but she would -- Yeah, I just -- She would be on trips with her -- O. And did you -- A. -- and. I think, handle her logistics issues and stuff like that. (Please continue to Volume Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE an Manlier 0411000(1,4•7 www.eSquireSolutiOns.COm • • • EFTA00181431
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Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 205 177:21 178:10,20 179:1,4,7 179:24 180:14 181:20,23 business 7:1 12:6 15:18,19,22 16:11 19:2 19:3,7,19 20:22 33:6 35:4 47:7 48:20,21 49:13,13,20 49:22 51:6 51:6,12 71:8 87:10 87:20 102:12,22 103:1 104:21 108:22 109:19 120:12 134:12 155:14,16 155:19,21 158:2 businesses 12:11 business-... 100:23 busy 166:2 buy 12:16 27:1 31:19,20 33:5,20 66:24 buyers 12:15 buying 69:4 84:14 88:10 buys 32:12 88:13 96:24 C cadaver 42:8 California 187:17 188:20 192:6 call 40:18,19 88:3 113:3 114:22 167:15 called 8:25 calling 69:18 Campbell 186:2,4 capacity 45:4,4 captain 25:19 38:6,8 79:20,21 80:10 82:3 82:20 99:13 127:17 148:2 179:19 198:2,7 captains 79:21 car 62:24 72:25 113:11,12 113:16 145:13 165:22 cards 49:12,14,17 49:18 care 21:4 47:9,16 47:18 career 26:16 58:9 58:17 Carmel 192:4,5 carpet 93:7 98:14 carry 183:2 185:16 cars 114:21 case 1:7 19:16 38:25 56:14 56:15 57:1 116:4 130:12 131:1 175:17 cases 92:16 catch 196:1 category 13:14 Cecelia 109:7,8 111:23 cell 102:13,14,14 104:1 Center 3:15 central 63:3 67:11 165:25 167:12 168:3 169:12 certain 29:14 32:8 42:18 81:2 135:24 140:8 162:9 179:5 certainly 44:6 104:15 135:24 152:19 180:14 184:16 certificate 25:5 chain 62:25 chair 29:9 93:12 Chairman 9:21,23 chairs 94:11 challenge 13:7,9 68:16 challenging 13:9 chance 56:18 190:5 198:25 change 13:1 31:9 44:16,17,22 58:9,17 93:10,12 changed 29:3,4 41:14 44:23 79:23 93:7 115:23 changes 162:4,14 163:3,15 charge 40:21 139:4 Charlie 22:7,9 chef 163:17,21 Chief 10:20 40:23 40:24 41:6 60:23,25 children 17:13 54:15 54:17 120:17 choice 26:16 84:8 86:9 chose 27:1 86:13 86:14 Chris 125:2 circle 133:11 CIRCUIT 1:1,1 cite 16:19 city 17:9 97:8,8 10S:12,13 105:14 181:14 civilly 131:18,20 claim 121:1 197:13 claiming 198:21 clarify 34:4 36:6 50:7 73:11 74:6 96:16 148:25 class 28:11 cleaning 14:25 clear 34:16 Clearlake 3:15 client 153:18 clients 12:7 Clinton 124:4,4,22 125:13 140:24 141:1,10 close 67:18 94:12 121:25 166:16 closed • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: wvvw.esquiresolutions.corn EFTA00181438
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 206 32:20 37:7 37:8 93:22 118:3,5,6 118:21 140:14 176:8 closer 65:21 145:8 clothing 51:10 clue 119:9 cockpit 26:1 27:9,24 93:15 114:19 cocktail 150:25 COLEMAN 3:8 college 62:3 Columbus 9:13 10:9 175:3 176:9 coming 43:4 78:24 79:2 101:18 107:19 113:21 116:9,22 135:3 150:13 165:19 167:14 181:15 comment 110:25 commercial 25:7 27:15 30:1 95:20 95:24 committing 184:1 common 16:15 155:17 communica... 89:25 90:1 complete 196:1 completely 17:2 121:11 130:25 156:18 completions 9:5 21:8 22:12 complex 164:22 composite 4:24 137:13 137:18,24 138:1 172:6 computer 115:2 conceive 18:25 concerned 20:25 128:1 159:4 concerning 104:1 151:20,23 165:24 166:3 contact 47:19 66:18 85:23 87:17 116:7 165:13 contacted 114:21 context 53:7 161:15 continue 24:15,17,18 68:14,15 176:3 200:24 continuously 161:14 contract 62:13,14 91:25 contracted 62:15 67:24 69:17 101:9,12 114:15 134:10,12 150:24 171:3 cook 163:25 copies 4:24 Copperfield 185:22 186:1 copy 154:23 cordoned 117:25 121:20 corporate 5:25 8:14 15:2 21:11 21:13,14,15 28:7 35:23 44:13 corporation 61:13,22,23 community conference control 7:6 8:18,21 62:4 63:3 30:19 28:10 93:24 11:22 70:17 60:20 61:7 67:9 86:1 companies configure... 73:20 79:17 61:9 84:3,5 COMB 12:23 44:12 28:7 29:8 controlled corporations 6:23 15:16 44:14,25 configure... 82:23 74:11 32:10 66:11 45:5 89:1 30:3 controls correct 66:14 69:12 169:16 confusing 26:9 6:5,7 7:10 110:5 company 70:13,14 convenient 8:2 9:16 113:17 6:16,18,19 connection 62:1 18:14 19:5 117:8 7:2,3,4,5 168:23 conversation 24:3 27:19 130:24 9:25 11:21 consider 64:15 69:14 32:6 34:13 134:22 20:4 44:9 69:11 81:11 83:4,9,20 35:9,15 139:5 44:11 64:11 93:13 87:1 90:4,7 40:20 42:12 140:21 64:13 89:9 considering 90:11 42:17 45:23 148:19,23 89:13,14 68:4 104:18 100:17 52:24 56:16 150:15,23 102:14 117:24 103:21,24 69:3,8 70:2 161:25 165:8,17 166:17 176:3 192:20,23 comes 33:8 comfortable 119:13 162:8 compartme... 28:16 compartments 32:20 complaints 120:23 178:4 121:19 184:5 consist 103:24 consists 94:10,19 construction 104:20 110:24 113:7 156:2 161:16 162:6,13 186:19 conversat... 38:7 66:9 74:14 75:14 75:16 77:17 77:17 80:8 91:14 100:6 101:7 105:6 111:19 118:7 119:10,10 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esqu lo ls. • • • EFTA00181439
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 207 128:3,6,9 131:22 136:3,5,6 140:4,6,10 144:7,8 148:18 149:7 162:12 168:21 186:17 191:18 195:16 198:6 COUNSEL 2:1 3:1 count 137:16,21,24 countries 125:1 country 43:5 117:5,6 COUNTY 1:1 couple 55:9 66:2 123:21 125:12,13 157:24 158:2 163:5 163:5 186:3 189:10 190:4 196:16 199:3 course 9:4 51:15 54:16 56:10 56:13,16 58:15 162:22 168:10 court 1:1,23 79:1 199:9,14 courthouse 119:25 Cowells 160:9 co-conspi... 177:7 crashes 38:20 creates 39:3 credentialed 26:14 credentials 26:13 credenza 94:10 crew 30:18 41:4 145:1 157:14 crewed 97:3 crimes 177:3 183:25 criminally 128:18 130:12 131:16 CRITTON 3:8 Cronkite 185:13 cross 180:20 181:3 190:6 crossed 142:16 149:5 CROSS-EXA... 4:7,9,10 190:19 195:23 196:11 crying 197:20 curfew 48:3,5 curiosity 55:15 curious 53:19 55:16 55:20,21 103:6 current 31:4,15 90:12 115:6 115:19 currently 39:9 customize 31:22 Customs 43:2,4 78:18 79:13,16 C.M.A 2:19 D D 2:10 dad 123:21 daily 165:8 177:21 178:10,11 178:16,20 178:24 179:1,4,7 179:24 180:14 181:10,20 181:23 178:14 180:18 181:25 182:1 Dankjold 5:21 60:5,7 Darren 107:9,10,11 108:21,25 119:11 date 63:13 116:15 124:24 138:9 142:19 153:13 154:22 157:3,7 158:17 159:16 177:16,18 181:9 dated 63:18 138:4 144:6 191:15 dates 78:4 84:18 84:19 dating 63:15,20,21 102:25 160:5,7,11 160:23 161:5,21 162:23 163:3 daughter 120:20,20 136:8,16 175:6,9 daughters 17:17,19,20 48:17 146:1 Dave 60:19 61:6 64:25 66:10 66:14 69:1 69:17 73:25 86:5 91:21 91:22 99:12 184:15 David 23:8 61:14 61:16 66:17 67:8 74:9 75:11 83:5 84:10 85:8 85:24 86:13 86:21 127:10,18 144:12 147:22 149:3 150:7 150:14 152:10 154:1,5,7 173:16,18 181:19,22 185:6,21 186:1 day 47:24,25 59:9 86:3 132:2,12 148:2 151:24 161:11 166:25 173:9 182:12 days 20:6 22:23 27:13,14 46:25 59:8 125:1 148:11 158:19 day-to-day 14:22 67:14 deadhead 142:15 deal 19:11,13 104:21 dealing 55:13 dealt 12:10 decision 7:1 120:13 Defendant 1:9 3:2,7 Defendant's 138:1 Define 48:14 72:21 180:25 defined 69:23 definitely • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.corn EFTA00181440
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2069 208 14:4 190:6 degree 62:5 81:7,11 163:8,9 164:5 Delaware 44:25 89:14 delineates 80:15 department 5:20 6:1 8:14,19 9:1 10:4,8 11:5 Description 4:18 design 22:12 29:1 33:9,10 51:9 designed 28:22 designer 28:23 designers 33:10 designs 32:8 178:5 diligence 128:4 DiLorenzo 1:23 dime 63:5 dining 81:17 dinner 51:17 167:13 167:21 168:2,7 direct Distinguish 34:15 divan 94:10 divans 28:10 93:25 94:7 divider 29:18 dividers 28:12 29:16 29:17 30:13 dividing 30:4 30:4 32:21 37:5,7 118:2,6 140:14 176:8 door's 93:22,23 118:5 Doug 181:25 dozen 63:5 drive 1:16 3:9 15:2 24:20 desk 4:6 5:13 division 111:6 39:17,23 94:10,11 89:21,25 11:14 12:18 165:22 40:15 41:4 despite directed divisions driver 62:11,17 174:16 175:1 29:1 11:24 48:22 113:13 150:1 68:2,9 destination direction Di's 173:2 189:6 departments 96:23 138:12 62:15 143:19 drop 41:4 44:13 138:12 directions documents 110:13 departure 144:10 40:22 79:17,18 dual 114:20 detail directly Doe 46:16,16 138:12 175:10 97:5 2:8, 14 Dubin depo detained Director doing 187:10,11 129:10 162:5,10 6:3 10:19 8:12 14:23 due deposed determine 13:6 26:19 42:16 50:12 128:4 116:4 38:24 39:21 40:9 58:19 59:20 duly deposit developed 41:2,3 60:4 98:3,4 5:11 89:22 6:21 60:10 67:2 112:12 duplicated deposition developing 69:23 125:17 32:25 33:17 1:12 5:1 13:10 directors 132:19 duties 14:1,4 development 41:5 156:16 11:6 37:23 52:16 56:17 64:13 discussed 162:3 59:18 90:23 78:25 81:11 deviation 20:10 34:22 Donald duty 131:24 97:12 87:5 186:10 132:9 133:6 38:2 deposition's Diane 197:6 133:8 D-A-N-K-J... 56:11 39:15,16 discussing door 5:24 deputies Diaz 155:24 27:16,22,23 121:6 180:2 discussions 27:25 29:19 B Dershowitz different 64:20 29:20,20,21 B 119:14,17,18 98:15 123:1 disheveled 29:23 93:18 3:14,15 28:6 describe 147:7 157:2 197:10 93:21 111:8 earlier 27:12,14 172:24 dispatch 111:8,9 54:25 98:19 28:17 48:14 difficult 39:4,5,14 118:20,21 172:20 191:6 169:25 disrespect 122:1 156:4 early described dildos 136:18 186:20,22 21:6 22:23 37:3 118:4 doors ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: • • • www.esquireso utions.com EFTA00181441
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 209 21:6 22:23 38:17 45:17 75:1 88:6 97:17 117:2 East 2:4 105:23 105:24 106:11 108:14,25 eastern 117:5 eat 14:5 51:17 echelon 12:10 economy 162:21 164:2 Ed 32:3 education 10:11 135:8 Educational 135:13 Edwards 2:3 4:6,12 5:14 9:18 11:12 13:25 32:1,4,5 34:2,6 36:8 37:14 39:11 39:13 43:22 46:22 50:3 54:16 57:24 65:11,19,23 66:5,12 71:13,14 73:14,17 75:24 78:15 78:21 79:4 79:11 86:25 88:1 100:20 104:14 105:18 106:24 110:11 113:6 114:14 117:23 118:9 119:7 121:17 122:13 123:16 125:24 126:7,15,20 126:23 127:1,7 129:5,7,15 129:18,25 130:3,7,8 131:6,11 132:6,8 134:5 137:9 137:16,23 138:3 139:24 140:1 142:3 144:14 146:21 148:8,10 149:2 152:3 152:7 153:15,17 153:21,24 156:14 157:5 159:19 163:20 171:24 172:4 173:12 174:15,25 176:2 177:13,17 181:8 182:21 190:1,8,14 190:18 195:21 196:9,24 197:6,18 198:5,18,23 199:3,6 effort 180:15 EFIS 27:9 either 7:16 50:8 72:24 88:6 96:11 99:6 108:20 113:2 146:18 153:9 159:22 162:19 170:3 ejaculates 175:24 Elaine 192:14 electroni... 47:18 Elena 187:8 else's 127:15 153:22 Emmy 192:13,15 200:15,18 employed 5:17 36:13 43:11 64:3 employee 19:12 57:21 179:10,11 179:14 180:18 employees 107:5,8 172:22 employee/... 81:21 104:22 employer 19:13 57:3 employer's 81:15 employer/... 136:20 employment 29:6 90:2 employs 172:23 empty 93:21 en 114:20 ended 64:25 90:19 engage 155:21 engineer 6:13 15:13 25:6,6,16 25:20 26:19 36:12,15,17 36:19 37:2 37:2 59:11 67:2 68:1 68:16 69:23 90:24 181:16 198:8 engineering 8:15 engineers 180:3 engineer's 37:24 England 77:2 enjoy 13:9 59:20 enjoyed 13:3 ensures 173:8 entails 11:3 173:5 enter 27:20,22 entered 12:13 46:17 entire 129:10 182:12 entitled 176:23 entourage 141:10 165:5 176:21 entryway 27:23 149:14 environment 64:19 environme... 26:9 Epstein 1:8 5:21 7:25 15:4,7 16:7,23 18:8 20:12 20:18,23 21:1 23:14 23:18 24:2 24:2,6,8,17 26:21 27:1 27:13 29:7 31:13 32:10 32:25 33:20 34:5,7,14 34:17,18,25 35:8,8,11 35:12 36:9 45:3,9,22 50:19 51:20 52:1,5,7,10 52:17 53:5 53:8,11,12 53:23,25 54:19,22 55:1,19,23 56:4,7,15 56:19 57:17 57:23,25 58:1 59:6 60:11,14 61:2 64:17 66:11,18,22 66:24 70:15 73:4,5,15 73:20,22 74:11,20,22 75:7,21 76:16,24 77:15 80:7 83:7 84:14 85:9 86:16 • ESQc..fficE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esqu reso u ons.com EFTA00181442
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2001 210 87:2,18 88:17,21,24 89:2 90:1 92:25 94:24 100:17 102:19 104:8 105:15 106:8,10 107:25 108:17 109:19 110:18,19 112:10,15 113:3 114:23 117:7,16 118:10 119:12,23 119:24 120:3 121:2 121:12 124:15 128:17 130:10,13 131:1,7,13 131:23 132:3,17,18 133:9,18,25 134:7,11,13 134:16 135:4 136:9 139:6,12 140:15 145:8,20 149:5 154:6 155:13,23 157:21 158:4,10 159:22 162:11 168:6,23 170:7,16,23 171:4,17 173:23 176:10 177:1,4,9 177:14 183:9,16,22 184:1,7 185:10 186:8,22,25 188:1,3 190:22 191:2,10,20 192:24 193:20 194:1,4,15 196:14 199:12,14 Epstein's 6:11 31:9 69:4 109:6 109:24 123:9 133:13 145:14 149:12 160:17 163:25 167:16 169:4,15 170:20 182:9 186:5 194:21 195:4,11 197:1 equipment 185:3,4 erect 175:21 escort 168:4 especially 22:24 156:20 ESQ 2:3,4,21 3:3 3:9,15 Essentially 8:13 29:9 90:4 established 121:19 estate 12:19,19,20 EUGENE 1:13 4:4 5:1 5:10 Europe 12:15 111:15 Eve 188:20 eventually 85:25 everybody 27:17,18 30:20 127:2 everybody's 127:3 164:2 exact 32:15 33:20 50:21 71:17 80:15 83:20 84:18 98:7 116:15 164:7 exactly 46:1 63:6 74:17 82:5 90:19 114:1 141:16 181:4 186:21 187:2 193:14,16 194:17 EXAMINATION 4:1,6,12 5:13 199:5 examined 5:11 excellent 68:7 exchange 135:7 exchange-... 135:9 exclusively 63:13 excuse 153:12 exhibit 4:18 137:24 148:16 172:5,6 EXHIBITS 4:16 existed 114:8 exited 11:11 43:21 197:21,24 expensive 96:2 experience 24:21 25:9 25:11 99:11 142:7,8 expert 148:3 185:4 Explain 25:17 explanation 179:12,15 exposes 175:21 exposure 50:17 52:14 130:22 Express 12:2 extended 124:10 extra 82:5 173:7 extremely 102:1 122:20 Ex-President 124:4 eyes 121:9 Ezell 2:16 4:8 153:12,13 153:16,20 153:23 180:23 190:13,15 190:20 191:16,19 192:7 195:18 e-mail 115:4 e-mails 115:7 E.T 143:13 F FAA 25:8,10 26:12 41:17 46:8,10,11 46:23 47:5 47:7,9,10 47:14 78:11 78:17 fabric 101:16 fabricator 33:10 fabrics 93:7 98:14 facility 33:11 97:4 fact 31:4 52:20 120:15 137:11 169:1 176:12 193:18 facts 174:24 factual 120:22 fair 55:8 159:11 161:7,13 fall 12:16 falling 157:20 familiar 23:10,12 75:7 111:25 138:6 143:1 150:9 165:14,18 Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE • • EFTA00181443
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • • 211 169:15 182:2 187:4 175:2,8 176:9 finish five-minute 98:17 99:14 105:4,7 189:20 family feeling 129:19 13:22 14:10 65:9,14,15 65:15 129:9 126:16 FL 1:17 2:5,11 108:3,12 122:3 127:8 48:19 117:8 felonies 129:13 2:17,22 3:5 139:23,25 136:19 199:9 finished 3:10,17 142:12,20 famous female 50:2,4 56:23 Flagler 142:22 124:2 185:9 72:16 152:11 57:19 65:12 1:16 2:16 143:1 far 152:11,11 119:24 3:9 144:25 15:19 20:25 152:12,12 129:12 flew 147:14 30:21 41:24 152:13 Finns 23:13 45:14 172:6,9,10 66:17 80:20 153:5,5,5 62:20 60:19 63:18 173:15 80:21 158:9 179:6 first 85:17 94:23 176:14 102:12 179:24,24 5:10 7:24 123:21 177:18 128:1 180:10,10 9:7 15:6 132:24 179:2,23 145:19 181:3 197:5 20:16 25:19 185:24 180:1 159:4 females 28:11 29:5 186:2 191:2 181:14 164:17 125:7,9 45:8,13,24 191:10 185:18 PARS Fifteen 52:9,23,25 192:21 193:4,5 80:17,19 11:10 53:1,2 195:10 198:7 fashion figure 60:16 61:4 flight flights 51:5,7 82:5 92:4 62:6 63:24 5:20,25 6:13 22:25 43:10 fast 158:1 66:15,18 8:14,15,18 50:22 59:13 58:23 59:1 figured 74:12,22 9:1 10:4,8 76:24 99:23 127:5 190:2 32:17 75:21 83:7 11:5,5 15:2 109:16 fatalities file 92:22,23 15:13 22:24 112:6 42:9 42:1,2,3 93:3 94:23 24:19,25 127:11 father 44:6 47:17 95:1,17,18 25:4,5,6,16 138:19 103:16 fill 95:21 98:16 25:20 26:19 195:15 Father's 147:11 99:14 36:12,15,17 flipped 144:17 filled 103:20 38:25 39:17 103:18 fault 82:17 105:4 39:23 40:15 floor 24:22 35:20 finance 113:24 40:21 41:1 31:5,16 fax 154:23 fear 136:15 February 187:13 financial 57:6 find 42:9 51:17 116:13 121:4,10 124:12,12 137:12 138:4 143:11 41:9 42:1,2 42:12,19,25 43:3,18,23 44:13 46:4 46:11,23 47:5,9,12 32:13,14,24 33:2,3,4,15 33:18 34:10 34:21,23 35:1,7,11 93:13 7:19 58:1 58:20 103:7 147:15 47:17,17,19 Florida 60:3 116:17 179:4 170:11 51:19 53:9 1:1 67:5 116:18 fine 179:1 62:11 67:2 70:3 86:6 171:16 10:14 68:9 186:11,14 68:1,2,9,15 86:13 89:19 200:3 68:10 199:1 69:23 77:13 90:9 97:2,3 Federal 137:23 five 78:9 79:14 97:4,7 80:22 finest 42:9,9,11 90:24 93:3 101:15 feeble 27:5 73:8 82:8 93:9 95:1 119:21 185:16 feel fingers 175:23 92:14 141:4 95:18 96:22 135:15 ESQUIRE an Al natir Gill* CoisP4•I Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquireso utions. corn EFTA00181444
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Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 213 generally 13:12 generated 46:24,24,24 47:1 generates 79:18 generation 25:18 generically 81:3 153:5 179:6 181:3 gentleman 25:21 55:14 61:6 gentlemen 140:20 180:2 getting 72:6,24 78:19 80:15 88:23 99:23 104:1 146:13,15 Ghislaine 70:5,7 76:12 76:14 88:15 101:24 102:8,18 103:2,21 107:21 121:12 149:6 157:9 157:21 165:4 169:19,20 169:23 170:20 173:16 177:14,20 177:20,22 178:3,13 181:10 Ghislaine's 187:14 girl 101:21 136:24 141:17 156:4 166:20 175:3 176:4 girlfriend 18:22 49:6 158:5 girlfriends 48:24 178:1 girls 48:13,14 52:7 54:10 54:20 72:3 76:8 95:6 95:10,13 101:21,24 102:1 104:4 104:9 111:16 114:11 121:1,14,18 121:21 122:4,12,14 123:12 125:25 126:10 134:13,17 140:25 151:11,25 166:5,7,11 166:24 168:14 171:21 172:1 173:9 175:2,11 177:10 178:6 181:2 194:12,20 195:3,11 197:9,12 199:8,14,15 199:16,22 200:5,10 gist 69:7,8 give 5:5 14:13 39:8 68:14 71:17 79:22 81:7 93:14 189:15 190:11 198:25 given 37:3 133:3 136:7 175:16,17 193:25 194:3 Glenn 187:10,11 Glimcher 60:19 61:6,9 64:9,11,22 64:24 67:7 84:20,22 85:18,22 87:6 145:22 go 6:6 18:18 41:13 42:8 44:15 50:13 51:4,17 56:24 57:10 60:2 62:3 83:4,9,12 86:4,17 88:19 92:11 96:11,12,22 97:5 98:23 99:16 100:9 100:13 105:11 110:12 118:17,21 119:4 124:11 127:22 129:7 137:18,20 141:7 142:12 146:2 149:6 149:15,16 164:8 166:7 173:23 179:7 182:23 184:5,6 185:18 188:10 190:18 God 5:7,8 38:20 163:8 189:3 goddaughter 123:3,20 godson 123:3 goes 92:10,12 145:19 165:2 188:9 going 37:4 38:3,9 40:18 50:7 51:3,18 52:15 56:1 66:24 68:2 80:9 81:1 82:11 83:14 91:11 93:16 95:21 100:4 100:5,14 101:1,4 108:20 118:6 119:9 120:6 121:12 122:1 125:20 126:22,24 127:4,4,13 127:14,15 128:4 129:2 129:19 134:2 137:6 137:10,10 137:11,12 137:20,23 142:12 146:9 148:6 148:12 156:24 158:13,20 158:22 160:14 165:24 166:5,25 168:4 172:5 173:9 177:2 180:9,21 183:9 190:2 196:16 199:25 Goldberger 3:3,3 9:17 11:11 12:13 16:24 18:15 20:13 27:4 31:25 37:13 38:5,22 42:21,24 43:21 46:17 46:18,21 119:18 good 65:22 66:12 68:5 75:17 130:7 174:6 179:12 goods 98:11,12 Google 56:3 57:1,9 57:11 gotten 74:4 government 177:1,2 Governor 167:9 go-between 22:11 grabbed • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com EFTA00181446
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 ' ' 214 111:9 gratify 139:6 green 31:21 Gregory 62:20 ground 36:18,18,21 36:21 grounded 97:10,11 grounds 185:7 group 43:12 141:12 176:5 grow 41:5 growing 133:17 guess 21:5 52:16 55:3 81:6 81:22 100:3 112:14 138:10 149:3 152:23 178:21 187:1 198:7 guessing 152:21,22 guest 81:8,16 guests 122:24 194:15,18 guilty 174:20 175:1 199:9,14 200:7 guise 29:6 Gulf 91:3 Gulfstream hangar 37:1 59:19 hear 17:24 113:1 helicopter 151:21 11:9,13 61:17 64:9 114:10 166:13 22:13 24:24 64:10,19 126:18 193:11 31:20 74:1 65:8 67:12 151:20 helicopters 74:5,18 83:5 86:2 155:24 169:21 75:9 85:7 87:7 169:13 hello 91:10,17,18 happen 175:16 132:2 163:19 92:17 81:4 88:7 196:17 help Gulf streams 140:7,8 198:20 5:6,8 28:8 8:19 11:8 happened heard 30:21 60:11 22:23 88:11 117:24 18:7 38:19 67:1 68:1 guy 118:14 54:9,13 138:7 53:17 56:19 139:15,15 63:21 66:3 165:18 63:6 84:14 139:18 68:17,18 helped 108:8 140:2 167:5 70:4,7 55:1 149:20 175:11 100:7 helping 160:8 176:13 103:10 189:11 173:19 178:17 111:2,23 Henri guys 199:21 112:19 12:2 78:19 150:19 200:6 117:10,12 Hey G-L-I-M-C... happening 121:10 69:4 83:13 61:11 74:16 123:17 135:18 84:13 153:3 happens 143:11 163:3 H 38:25 84:24 144:20 hi Hammond 118:25 150:8 108:6 196:15 80:3,4,6 151:8 151:11,16 high 147:13 175:18 159:2 160:1 20:5,5,8 hand 176:8 160:5,18 25:14 148:6 happy 168:25 133:16 handed 83:21 84:2 170:11,23 138:10 137:15 144:5 156:6,7 171:1 high-end handle 102:15 200:22 handles 185:2 handling 112:13 hands 166:4 handwriting 147:1,3,20 147:22 148:3,4 152:20 hang 19:17 87:11 hard 65:17 175:22 Harry 17:18 haul 150:5 Hawker 64:22 74:18 74:24 85:4 85:9 Hawkers 8:20 11:8 head 136:13 heads 12:18 127:3 173:13 185:24 186:2 187:3 189:25 hearing 63:24 65:17 hearsay 63:8 160:3,4 160:24 heavy 25:8,11,14 92:11 hedge 187:21 held 9:25 185:3 high/low 93:25 Hinson 22:8,9 hint 18:24 hire 12:17 hired 9:8 19:10 60:23 66:14 70:2 84:25 85:2 86:1 88:14,16,17 88:20 90:5 S ESQUIRE sa Al sada Cooney Toll Free: Facsimile: • • • EFTA00181447
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 215 90:8 101:2 113:17 130:9 145:21 183:10 hold 13:21 34:1 34:15 46:3 50:1 56:22 57:19 65:9 99:9 129:3 190:11 holding 6:18,19 7:3 44:24,24 holdings 44:14 holidays 40:6 home 58:12,24 108:20 111:5 120:16 149:9,12 156:5 164:17 178:12 186:20,21 186:24 homes 13:15 46:16 86:18 188:9 homosexual 17:25 18:5 honestly 35:20 41:13 106:9 143:8 143:21 148:3 173:20 189:14 honesty 27:8 HOROWITZ 2:9 hotel 51:17 166:1 hour 28:9 126:23 182:15 house 17:4,6 54:1 54:6,11,20 81:16 121:14 137:6 139:5 149:20,25 150:1 162:19 164:23 165:12 167:13 168:5,15 170:20 173:2,4,8 175:11 178:25 182:9,10 184:17,23 185:6 188:14 189:8,16 193:21,25 housekeeper 184:19 houses 162:9 How's 150:23 huge 107:2 hull 31:21 hundreds 120:25 137:3 hydraulics 26:8 Hyperion 169:18 H.R 10:19 I idea 6:23 11:18 22:4 37:10 44:18 46:7 51:12 55:20 76:5 81:3 85:12 89:7 89:21,23,24 111:14 116:7 118:16 119:5 130:11 135:1,20 149:8,11 150:16 152:12,14 152:17,22 154:6 155:13 164:20 168:12 171:8 172:20 180:9,12 183:16 identical 29:11 35:1 identific... 138:2 identify 158:8 ignore 68:17 II 200:24 illegal 180:21 imagine 21:20 71:3 99:20,22 Imlay 80:1,3 immediately 15:5 93:4 Immigration 43:2,4 78:18 79:13,16 impact 120:8 implying 55:20 important 9:14 imports 151:11 impression 99:23 155:18 inappropr... 198:10 inappropr... 198:16 incarcerated 58:4 162:19 incident 111:2 incriminate 183:22 INDEX 4:1,16 India 196:7 indicate 107:25 148:1 148:2 indication 18:4 147:21 individuals 42:19 43:7 50:9 140:20 industry 186:9 Indy 62:24 Indyke 107:10,11 108:21 109:1 119:11 infatuated 182:18 information 17:24 18:7 21:19 39:24 47:19 56:18 79:13 80:16 196:25 informati... 30:23 initial 193:15,16 initially 96:24 initials 6:17 89:6 injured 156:7 197:23 Inn 10:3 innocent 130:25 Inns 62:18,19,21 62:22,24 inputs 102:16 ins 25:12 inserts 175:23 inside 33:8 93:15 inspections 97:18 install 33:11 installation 28:25 installat... 185:5 installed 33:18,19 35:2 instances 49:10 instruct 140:15 instructed 37:21 38:16 instruction 140:17,19 intent 122:23 intention... • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquiresolutions.com EFTA00181448
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 20O9 ' 216 116:3 58:14 120:6 jail 54:19,22 177:20 intents 114:7,9 interest 57:2 156:17 156:19,22 invited 118:17 167:13,15 involve 9:6 19:7,14 57:18 173:24 174:10 Jane 2:8,14 Jansen 55:1,19,23 56:4,6,15 56:18 59:6 60:14,23 61:2,5 179:24 181:10,19 181:22 182:9 183:9 183:15,16 interested involved 154:2,3,19 64:25 65:2 183:22 67:25 69:13 7:18 10:18 Jansen's 65:6 66:14 184:1,7 88:13 160:4 18:8 66:21 154:20 66:23 67:25 185:2 186:5 interior 79:5 84:15 January 74:10,20 186:8,25 27:9,12,14 84:21 87:2 12:25 24:12 75:7 76:24 187:14 28:24 31:22 87:18 26:25 70:3 77:9,11 188:3 191:2 33:10,12,17 117:13,16 85:15 88:22 84:14,21 192:24 93:10 128:19 88:23 85:1,2,9,19 193:20 100:25 135:8,11 138:18 86:2,8 87:2 194:1 102:16 168:14 144:6,8 88:13,20,24 196:14 115:7 involvement 148:6,7,11 89:2 90:1,7 Jeffrey's intern 7:25 10:1 151:1 90:8,10 110:25 189:12 21:6 119:12 190:23 94:24 99:2 JEGE internati... 140:12 197:1 100:17 4:19 5:18,19 22:24 43:1,1 186:12 102:18 6:16 7:14 43:3,10 involving 104:8 89:3,4,18 50:22,25 56:15 Jean 105:15 90:2 108:23 51:19 IRS 107:23 106:10,16 169:18 internati... 76:25 78:16 46:13,15 island 109:12 110:12,16 106:17,18 106:20,25 gie 181:25 182:1 80:13 151:14,17 110:20,22 108:4,17 182:2 191:4 interpreting 158:22 111:11 123:8 191:5,5,6 7:8 163:16,18 152:10 124:15 191:10 interrupt 163:21 155:6,8,10 135:7 Jennifer 196:21 interview 188:5 189:11 156:10 186:12 144:11 145:12,14 1:23 jeprojects 10:19 intimate 158:9 introduced 108:5 132:15 132:16 introduces 60:14 islanders 159:5 issue 78:24 issues 19:2,3,6,14 115:8 200:23 194:6 Jeff 54:13 87:18 109:9,10,11 111:4 171:4 185:10 Jeffrey 1:8 7:25 145:20 149:5,9,12 151:6 152:10 154:1 155:5 155:13,23 156:11 158:4,10 159:15,21 115:8,11 JESSICA 2:10 jet 25:7 33:6 98:10,10 JFK 150:14 introduction I-M-L-A-Y 15:4,12,14 159:21 60:16 80:3 15:25 16:7 162:11,25 3:6 intrude 82:19 J 45:3,8,22 50:19 51:20 169:3 170:7 170:23 Jim 23:2 80:1 investigated 52:1,5,10 172:13 job 156:15 2:3 3:9 52:17 53:5 173:16,23 5:21 9:10 investiga... JACK 53:8,11,12 176:10,18 14:22 26:6 3:3 53:23,25 177:4,9,14 58:8 60:8 Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE BO Melanin GSM 40),IP • • • EFTA00181449
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 23.7 60:12 62:6 65:1 67:6 74:4,7 83:15 84:13 jobs 10:8,10 Joe 42:13 Joe-Joe 149:21,22,24 149:25 189:5,6 Joe-Joe's 149:23 jog 72:9 JUDICIAL 1:1 187:3,4 June 98:21 105:3 191:15 K Kalib 189:24 Karin 109:22 KATHERINE 2:16 Kathy 153:13 190:9 190:9,15 191:13 192:6 199:4 keep 12:5 15:1 27:15 33:2 65:14,16 127:13 128:2 148:5 150:12 keeping 46:12 127:23 keeps 41:9 107:12 109:1 112:5 113:1 113:8 114:8 114:8,17 115:21 121:13 124:20 149:5 150:16 154:2 157:11 159:24 161:6,7,17 161:21 162:23 177:4 2 115:25 Kennedy 96:1,1,4 144:9 148:13,14 148:16 172:13 179:25 kept 44:6 Kevin 2:18 kids 17:22 kind 7:23 11:7 14:12 19:11 43:8 64:23 102:12 106:12 107:18 121:20 153:3 155:16 156:8 164:1 165:15 168:24 200:13 kitchen 94:4 knew 10:10 15:6 15:15 60:9 60:19 63:15 74:4 76:19 82:23 91:8 180:18 194:8 knock 140:16 know 6:20 7:1 8:10,17 9:2 9:4,11,22 10:20 11:21 11:23 12:9 12:10 13:7 15:3,10,19 16:14,14,25 17:1,6,8,9 17:10,21,22 18:12,13 19:13,15,16 20:3,15 21:25,25 23:3 24:5,8 24:15,19 26:23 27:1 27:17 30:18 30:18 32:7 38:13,21 39:7,14,25 39:25 40:7 41:13,18,24 43:25,25 44:3,10,16 45:1 46:1 46:23 47:2 47:2,4 48:7 49:16,21,22 49:23,24,24 50:12,18 51:9 53:21 53:21 54:22 55:15 57:3 57:7 59:18 60:22 61:16 63:3,4,7,10 63:13,19 64:2,10,12 64:18,25 65:1 66:17 66:17,25 67:1,10,24 68:1,2,12 69:10,11,16 69:18,21 70:21 71:1 71:1,5,5,6 71:8 72:22 73:24 74:19 75:9,15 76:15 77:1 78:10,17 79:5 80:13 80:17,18,25 80:25 81:5 81:6,6,8,24 82:10,13,17 82:24 83:2 83:16,25 84:18,19,19 84:25 85:6 85:17,19 86:1,4,7,19 86:21 87:24 88:11,12,14 89:10,12,13 89:17 90:13 91:20 92:3 92:10,13,24 95:5,15,16 96:11 98:14 100:7 101:10 102:13 103:1,2,12 104:19,21 105:8,21 106:10 107:3,3,15 107:17 108:3,6,8 108:20,21 109:10,11 109:12,14 109:17,18 109:21,24 109:25 110:2,6,18 111:18 112:1,5,14 114:20 115:4,9,19 115:22,23 115:25 116:3,24 117:3 118:6 118:23,25 119:17 120:13 121:25 122:1,4,11 122:12,14 122:17,19 123:2,5,22 125:25 127:22,22 127:23 128:21,24 128:25 130:20 132:3 133:11,14 133:15,16 133:16,18 133:21,24 134:24,25 135:1,5,6,6 135:9,10,22 135:22 137:4 138:15,24 138:25 139:1,3,3 140:10,23 141:16,17 142:8 143:3 143:4,8,10 143:10,10 143:14,15 143:17,20 143:21,21 • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: I MMM www.esquiresolutions.com EFTA00181450
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 " 218 144:15,17 144:18,19 145:5,8,13 145:22,23 146:16,17 146:24,25 147:1,19 148:2,20,23 149:19,24 150:8,11,11 150:13,19 150:20,23 150:25 152:20 153:1 154:3 154:7,16,20 154:25 155:11,16 155:21,22 156:9,10,12 157:20,25 158:4,14,21 158:25 159:24 160:3,10,12 160:13,13 160:14,14 161:2,3 162:3,5,8,9 163:16 164:7 165:9 165:9,17 166:2,8,14 167:22 168:1,17,18 169:1,8 170:6,9,9 170:10,10 170:14 171:6 172:15,18 173:1,18,20 173:21 175:7,8 177:3,8,22 177:25 178:1,2,10 178:16,19 179:9,10,13 179:17,18 180:19 181:24 182:1 183:3 183:19,25 184:14,16 184:17,19 184:21 185:8 186:7 186:11,22 187:1,5,12 187:18,25 188:4,8,12 188:17,18 188:19,20 189:1,2,8 189:19,21 193:3,11,18 193:20,25 194:2,6,18 199:19 200:19 knowing 43:15 118:16 knowledge 15:24 16:16 17:3 21:21 24:1 40:8 46:9 79:23 133:24 161:17,18 168:13 192:18 196:25 known 10:7 20:23 54:9,19 106:13 111:14 121:22 128:10 168:20 169:4 182:22 186:16 knows 30:20 144:23 kosher 181:4 L ladies 48:17 141:10 141:13 Lady 143:19 lag 196:19 laid 162:7 163:6 164:6,7 Lake 2:22 97:8,8 181:14 lam 116:3 landed 166:12 Lane 13:20 61:12 67:13 Langley 62:14 large 11:20 24:20 28:10 113:15 115:3 Larry 1:13 4:4 5:1 5:10,16,17 23:5 60:15 60:18,19,21 61:4 64:2 64:16,21,25 66:10,16,18 66:24 67:3 69:1,17 73:25 74:9 83:6,17,19 83:22,25 84:10 85:8 85:24 86:5 86:13,21 90:5 91:21 91:22 99:7 99:14 106:12,14 106:17 127:10 144:22,23 147:23 151:21 160:12,19 160:21 161:16 162:14 184:15,23 185:4 193:24 196:5 Larry's 147:2 Las 2:4 late 38:17 45:17 45:18,19,20 45:24 46:4 48:1 70:19 70:21 75:10 76:4 78:7,8 78:9 88:6 178:22 Lately 56:8 Lauderdale 2:5 LAW 2:20 3:14 lawyerwil... 2:23 layoff 164:1 layoffs 162:5 layout 29:3,4 31:15 lays 175:19 lazy 146:14,15 lead 10:5 36:25 64:17 leads 27:24,25 learn 63:1 learned 134:4 learning 111:20 lease 188:12 leather 98:14 leave 36:18,20 84:22 136:8 163:23 175:25 leaves 36:18,21 leaving 43:5 107:20 175:3 176:9 led 76:13 175:18 186:22 left 27:24 84:20 85:22 97:13 97:14 163:18 197:7 left-hand 27:22 legal 160:17 Lerner's 12:2 8:8,10,16 9:2,7,14 10:2,5 12:22 13:11 14:21 17:4 23:5 45:2 48:24 49:10 49:19 50:8 50:20 53:4 43/ ESQUIRE nM eeeeeee GAIWConpmv Toll Free: Facsimile: • • • EFTA00181451
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 219 53:6,10,25 40:9,24 107:6,8,9,22 20:23 24:10 58:3 114:23 54:9,10,20 43:11 45:14 160:15 24:10 25:8 135:17 54:23 55:2 50:18 62:25 187:16 26:12 50:14 151:19 56:15 59:8 63:7,8,9 lived 63:19 75:3 154:5,13 59:15 60:11 64:14 70:11 9:12 67:6,9 83:18 84:17 157:23 61:24 62:7 77:21 97:13 67:10 85:17 98:6 159:8,20 63:1 64:3 130:22 107:13,15 116:14 162:4,5 68:5 70:24 Limited's 109:4 128:10 165:23 71:16 75:19 27:9 31:4 lives 160:11 166:3 185:2 75:21 79:24 limiting 17:10 61:24 163:5 174:4 199:21 109:3,4 126:5 150:10 186:8 189:3 lottery let's limits 173:21 longer 170:24 83:4 147:6 47:21 187:17 58:20 126:21 loud 148:5 line living 126:23 155:24 181:11 90:13,25 42:5 86:9,19 145:12 Louis 191:20 92:10 LLC longstanding 191:21 level lines 6:18 44:24 20:11 loved 19:18 136:19 199:8 load look 185:20 149:14 list 149:17 14:12 56:18 loves 150:4 6:16 152:9 loads 57:7 102:1 185:20 177:23 152:12 82:8 144:10 122:19 lower life 153:4 local 134:14 149:14 150:4 145:24 146:3 178:18 166:11 146:8 Luc 184:17 179:7 180:9 location 181:11 107:23 lift listed 22:2 111:5 182:3 190:1 109:12 150:21 81:2,3 186:23 190:3 110:13,16 159:10 152:16 log looked 110:20,22 light 153:18 142:12 172:7 49:12 57:6 111:11 156:8,20 179:5,6,22 173:15 79:12 153:3 152:10 liked 181:2,3 176:14 182:7 155:6,8,10 32:23 33:15 listening 177:19 looking 156:10 35:10 129:5 logistics 12:20 26:2,3 186:12 likelihood listing 200:22 90:14 93:15 194:6 82:11 146:8 152:13 logistic-... 103:18 lunch likes lists 113:18 129:18 126:25 127:2 112:16 185:3 81:2 logs 138:5 LUTTIER Lima literally 37:18 41:9 142:13 3:8 196:5 25:25 26:4 43:24 46:4 144:4 lying limited 164:23 46:23 47:5 looks 133:4 8:11,23,25 little 47:9 78:9 141:18 L.M 9:1,20 10:7 60:21 98:19 79:14 142:10 1:4 2:2 11:22,25 126:23 127:13,20 143:20 12:1 21:21 127:9 179:2 150:13 M 21:23 22:2 145:25 London 155:5 magazine 22:17,18 151:22 51:4 77:2,3 158:14 55:10 56:1 24:11 29:11 161:17,18 77:11 179:18 magazines 32:23 33:15 166:1,1 long lot 55:6,7 39:6,17,23 live 6:19 12:22 12:5 31:1,9 magician's • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: wal www.esquiresolutions.corn EFTA00181452
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 200'9 ' 220 185:21 main 164:23 165:12 manage 55:2 189:12 managed 15:25 175:20 182:23 183:2 massages 5:19 7:8,11 9:14,15 11:19,25 12:3,7 145:11,12 145:13,21 146:1,5 148:21 167:13 management 112:16,25 13:13 15:1 150:18,21 168:5 26:8 102:12 113:3 16:15 21:20 151:19 maintain manager 114:11 28:10 29:2 152:19 6:4 13:16 149:25 150:1 182:18 29:5 30:25 154:12,14 26:7 80:14 187:13 masturbates 36:10,12 156:22 81:19 managers 175:21 38:20 39:9 159:5,6 184:10 188:14 match 40:5 42:4 161:10,11 maintained managing 33:4 42:23 43:15 161:12,17 8:22 27:10 133:19 matter 44:13,22 162:21 maintains manifest 31:4 91:22 45:21 46:13 163:2 164:2 25:21 44:1 4:19 39:1,3 137:17 47:24 48:18 165:2,18,22 maintenance 80:14 93:9 Maxwell 49:3,15 166:16 6:3,9 7:22 138:8 144:6 70:5,7 76:12 51:5,8,9 169:18,25 8:14 11:4 153:13 76:15,25 56:20,25 170:4 173:1 13:6 14:24 191:14 77:3,10,15 63:2 64:18 174:11 14:24,25 manifests 88:15 64:19 67:10 175:6 19:14 22:21 137:15 101:24 69:7,23 178:19,21 25:9,11 191:12 102:8,18 70:10,13 178:22 26:20 41:8 manner 103:2,15,21 71:2,20,24 183:1,5,5 58:25 59:19 197:7 107:21 72:10,18,22 183:19 59:21 60:10 mansion 114:5,7,10 73:12,21 193:8 62:13,18 67:2 69:24 90:25,25 92:11,14 97:13,14 101:5 115:8 132:19 181:13,15 181:16 183:7 184:10 136:2 manufactu... 11:23 Marcinkova 107:14 135:2 135:4 149:4 157:11 Marissa 189:19,20 mark 114:17 115:17 121:2,13 125:11 141:8 149:6 157:9,19,21 158:7,8 169:23 170:13,14 170:21 173:16 81:6 83:11 83:21 86:10 87:9 89:17 90:5 91:21 92:24 96:17 98:13 100:25 101:2 104:15 105:21 106:12 200:16 meaning 186:25 means 25:12 28:8 81:12 185:1 meant 14:9 194:24 mechanic 10:11 11:6 43:18 64:21 major 106:6,8 177:14,20 112:4,22 mechanics 30:11 making 107:25 137:11,12 177:22 178:3 116:10,12 121:12,24 22:24 meet 7:5 113:13 114:3,10 156:8 male 72:16 137:18,23 181:23,24 marked 138:1 marketing 192:14,21 200:15 Maxwell's 178:13 192:19 122:11,23 123:3,5 124:10 127:1 134:23 8:3 9:7 21:22 64:7 65:7 108:16 119:16 150:3 mall 12:17 MC2 135:12 meeting 64:13 married 109:21,21,22 136:19 106:7 113:14 man 63:10 145:25 111:1 138:14 119:25 65:23 massage mean 141:15,17 143:9 143:20 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esqu l resol ut ons.com • • • EFTA00181453
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 221 167:21 170:20 meetings 9:6 112:13 114:3 Meister 144:15,17,19 Miami 2:11,17 Michael 2:4 3:9 65:13 154:25 196:13 190:11 minutes 129:20 172:11 miscommun... 31:23 missed monitor 47:10 Monterey 192:8,12 month 9:9 months 190:16 2:7 Myster 144:12 149:4 150:14 144:24 mid 24:22 95:3 98:8 N 146:18,22 28:19,20 mistake 116:23 N members 45:20 46:1 141:24 162:2 1:16 2:21 48:19 46:4 75:1 mistaken Morrison 3:9 memory middle 133:4 1:13 4:4 5:1 44:21 29:13 165:15 misunders... 5:10,16 107:14,15 men mid-twenties 32:16 131:9 116:9 135:2 63:22 141:15 model 190:21 135:4 mention 178:22 110:2 187:6 196:6,13,24 138:23 106:1 112:15 mid-year modeled motel 144:12 145:2,3 98:17,19,20 34:10 62:24 149:3 173:3 Mike modeling motor 150:16 mentioned 79:4 163:8,9 109:19,21,22 111:5 156:4 151:6 22:13 54:25 164:4 109:25 186:20,21 152:10 55:11 190:11 110:17 186:24 154:1 155:5 112:18 195:21 155:18,20 mouth 157:11 140:24 196:6,9 155:25 9:11 159:15,20 172:20 199:7 156:6,15 move 172:14 179:2 191:4 Milan 186:6,9,16 65:20 134:2 173:17 mentions 51:5 186:22,23 136:10 176:18 152:4 miles 189:22 137:8 177:5,8 MERMELSTEIN 138:21,21 models 153:19 naked 2:9 164:23 110:5,7 174:23 71:18 175:19 met million 111:7 175:5 176:1 name 8:4 9:4,5 27:2 89:8 156:11,11 177:12 5:15 8:21 18:22 24:8 mind modern 179:20 17:14 20:2 36:9 54:23 27:15 65:14 31:16 33:22 moved 41:10 42:19 61:4 64:8 65:16 68:22 12:5 70:3 44:9,11 106:3 111:10 modificat... 85:25 86:1 63:7,8 70:4 119:14 126:15 93:5,6 98:4 75:7,15 132:9 143:7 180:21 Mohammed 3:11 80:15,24 167:9 181:4 81:23 82:11 Mullen 81:2,10 169:12 mine molest 144:12 149:3 82:19 89:6 185:9 186:1 Mexico 89:19 163:14 164:11 166:11,21 167:1 170:24 172:1 6:25 24:23 minor 54:10,10 102:16 minors 139:5 minute 147:4 182:16 177:10 mom 123:21 money 7:5 55:2 133:19,25 175:24 187:13,22 150:7,14 152:11 154:1,5,7 173:16,18 181:19,23 multiple 13:15 92:1 mute 103:14 106:4 109:5 109:12,14 109:21 143:11 144:20 145:14 146:14,18 • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquireso utions.com EFTA00181454
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • 222 149:23 150:2 152:18 153:4 154:18 160:2,8,10 161:22,22 138:21 navigation 93:8 nearby 161:8 necessarily 122:6 161:10 118:14,17 118:21 132:23,24 133:6 134:1 136:17,18 136:18,22 136:25 166:11,21 166:25 170:24 185:19 187:6 188:5 189:7 Newark 20:17 190:1 190:3 Nothing's 33:9 notice 171:21 noticed 170:5 162:14 140:16,18 96:2,4 30:3 196:19 178:15,18 199:22 149:19 newspaper November 180:3,5,8 necessary 151:16 104:18 88:11,12 180:15,16 80:12,14 153:9,10 135:24 196:7 185:21 need 156:15 newspapers number 189:15 18:19 41:18 157:25 56:10 175:14 40:10,12,14 191:5,8,8 42:10 53:21 166:14,16 nice 40:16,18 191:14 128:2,19 168:20 185:15,16 121:5,10 196:2,3,6 137:21 171:1 173:3 night 138:9,11,13 196:13 150:21 182:7,19 50:14 108:19 numbered named 174:3 183:3,14 nipples 28:6 11:15 125:6 needed 186:1,10,16 175:22 Numerous 161:6 22:5 120:13 189:25 nobody's 36:11 167:16 140:22 new 142:15 169:23 159:10 12:20 20:7 181:12 O 190:24 needs 32:25 33:18 nods object 191:1 113:11,12 33:19 34:25 136:13 71:11 197:18 192:13 names 12:14 19:25 23:10,12 34:16 37:18 37:22 38:3 neglected 180:8 negotiations 97:4,6,9 neighbors 35:2,13,14 35:24 36:5 44:23 55:10 68:19 84:13 86:5,14 89:19,19 noise 48:5 non-Epstein 84:4 Non-Prose... 198:5,25 objected 66:1,6 objection 79:7 81:14 38:9 43:6,8 47:17 64:19 108:16 neither 95:16,18,19 97:15 99:19 176:23,25 nope objections 78:20,23 127:14 66:3 99:20,22,24 192:3 79:2 142:16 never 100:4,13,14 normal oblivious 144:17 14:4 18:24 100:16 43:9 82:7 121:11,15 145:3 146:9 38:19 44:4 101:19 165:3,5 obvious 152:13 45:6 49:24 103:11 176:21,21 83:1 157:2 53:12 54:3 105:4,9 normally obviously 163:17 54:4,4,7 106:19 39:1 51:4 31:1 55:13 177:19 57:6 63:18 110:16 96:22 110:3 64:16 69:11 189:8,9,14 65:4 66:13 113:13 110:15 90:24 99:2 72:10 73:4 127:8 118:21 110:18 186:2,4 76:19 82:17 149:13 127:18 124:1 NASA 83:24 92:4 150:10,20 Northeast 138:18 62:14 100:21 155:12 44:24 146:17 nature 101:1 111:2 161:12 Noted 154:12,14 136:7 Nautical 111:23 112:18,24 117:12 163:14 164:11 71:13 notes 161:18,22 162:11 occasions Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE • • • EFTA00181455
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 223 134:20 193:2 occur 49:10 occurred 136:1,2 occurring 114:16 October 1:15 5:2 odd 153:9 odds 82:14,16 offenses 174:21 offered 13:2 24:18 office 2:20 3:14 21:12,13,14 21:16 29:22 29:23 49:13 94:9 112:1 112:2,3,4 114:18 115:1 150:4 officer 25:20 offices 22:3 oftentimes 101:18 Oh 6:25 10:17 18:9 20:24 36:12 40:4 45:13 49:17 54:12,16 56:10 59:17 59:23 62:2 62:8 63:2 68:7 84:5,7 87:12,22 94:22 96:15 96:21 106:17 108:2,6 117:2 128:23 131:25 140:13 163:8 166:14 167:2 168:3 168:16 178:19 185:14 Ohio 13:12,17 17:8 20:7,9 61:22,23 62:3,8,12 63:4 67:3,5 67:11,12 83:5 96:25 97:5 okay 6:4,14 13:24 14:20 17:24 23:23 25:3 25:23 34:17 34:19 35:4 41:15 47:8 50:14 52:15 56:3,24 71:7,13 78:5 82:14 82:25 86:13 88:2 94:5 100:24 118:19 123:1,4 127:6 128:23 130:21 131:15 132:6 136:21 139:9 140:5 142:21,23 143:18 146:8 153:21,23 157:1,10 176:3,16 177:6 178:23 179:21 181:18 190:8,18 192:12 195:8,9 200:13 Olas 2:4 old 32:24 33:4 33:15,15 117:8 120:19 136:8,24 138:6 141:24,25 142:10 151:25 152:23 153:17 175:18,22 176:10 older 25:18 178:21 once 15:14 26:22 31:12 56:25 70:8 92:9 106:3 110:1 112:15 157:19 160:13 165:13 173:18 one's 138:4 one-third 36:24 59:13 open 37:7 93:23 opening 156:4 operated 8:19 11:5 22:17 operating 15:2 Operations 10:20 39:21 40:9 41:3 41:20 80:20 opportunity 13:2,6 68:15 200:1 optical 20:4 opticians 20:4 option 96:12 options 187:20,21 193:4,5 order 150:12 176:15 organization 10:14 16:5 41:7 organizing 113:2 origin 142:18 original 4:24 ORSECK 2:15 Oscar 196:6,7 OSU's 62:16 outs 25:12 outside 17:2 52:1 87:13 112:22 Overage 182:5 overall 12:22 overhear 110:21,22 113:8 151:21 overnight 88:8 overnights 58:19 owned 20:4 22:15 22:16 26:22 30:1 31:3 31:12,12 64:11 71:16 73:12,23 74:10,20 75:13 76:15 84:4 86:18 91:7,12 108:17 169:2 owner 75:17 82:9,9 82:23 ownership 108:1 owns 7:13,15 9:19 44:9 89:9 89:12 92:25 105:21 106:10,20 106:25 107:3 187:25 188:8,15 o'clock 48:8 pace 58:23 pad 151:21 page 4:5,18 28:24 35:16 Paged 27:8 59:1 28:24 33:11 75:18 • 410 ESQUIRE •• AL nsatti 0111.0 Cont•••• Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquireso l utions.com EFTA00181456
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 200'9 224 104:2 pages 1:2 4:19 paid 80:19 97:11 102:12 145:2 169:1 172:6 173:8 passports 43:8 Patrick 188:21 145:9 146:9 156:25 158:14 159:8 162:3 100:17,22 101:1 102:22,22 102:23 89:1 105:15 187:23 pax 163:6,11 112:11,12 130:13 195:8 146:6 149:4 165:7,17 112:14 132:3 particular 149:4 172:23 133:24 153:10 27:2 38:25 152:16 176:19 134:12 183:4 47:2 153:8,8,8 179:5 136:19 paint parties pay 180:16 personally 143:18 23:21 150:25 101:4 146:4 185:9 199:7 8:18 9:2,24 Palm partition 146:4 176:5 people's 19:1 22:2 1:1,17 3:5 94:13 paycheck 53:21 71:6 87:24 96:17 3:10,17 partitioned 88:24 145:3 96:20 95:16 97:25 139:17 paying percent 130:13 136:2 partitions 128:13,16 11:22 134:10 142:18,18 144:9 37:3,5 party payroll 120:5 184:12 percentage 36:20 183:25 personnel 148:13,14 194:21 195:4 184:14 perfectly 79:18 148:17 195:7,8 PBI 26:18 philanthropy 150:10 passenger 97:23,24 perform 135:8 151:1 4:19 11:10 98:1 159:13 91:1 phone 158:24,25 37:17 39:1 172:13 performance 65:16,21 161:5 70:8 72:11 179:25 25:14 78:25 90:6 182:10 80:14 82:7 peculiar period 90:10 188:5 109:15 179:4 26:25 67:6 102:13,14 panel 127:13 people 73:22 74:19 102:14 26:5 137:15 10:9 12:10 74:21 85:5 104:2 paper 138:8 19:17 23:20 113:19 129:10 117:4,12 144:13,13 24:5 26:2 191:9 150:24 176:24 146:7,13,16 30:24,25 periodicals phonetic 177:11 152:8 38:3,9 16:21 55:5,7 160:9 paperwork 191:11,14 42:11 46:15 permission physically 7:19 147:12 194:9 198:3 55:16 72:13 118:24 7:18,20 153:11 passengers 79:5 81:2 person 25:25 paralegal 12:5,7 37:19 81:23 82:4 9:15 16:19 pick 162:25 72:23 82:10 82:8 88:4 50:15 55:21 95:13 110:13 Paris 96:6,18 91:25 96:13 67:3 68:10 113:17 51:5 110:4,7 142:17 96:18 75:15 80:24 149:16 110:12,16 145:4 110:14 101:14,20 picking 188:7,10,11 150:15 113:2 120:10,12 28:5 186:18 192:1 181:16 118:11 133:4 picture 194:10,13 196:25 121:5,24 146:13 28:9 107:19 part 197:5 124:2 125:6 161:21 113:22 37:23 41:20 passes 127:14 176:6 116:10,23 41:22,23,24 97:18 141:22 personal 135:3 42:15 58:16 passing 142:4,8 9:6 16:22 154:11,15 59:21 69:5 145:5 144:23 19:17 21:6 pictures Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE WWW.esquiresolutions.corn • • • EFTA00181457
• . Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 225 103:19 Pike 3:9 4:11 46:20 58:7 65:13,13,22 66:1,7 71:11,23 76:17 78:14 78:19,22 79:10 81:14 82:1 83:10 86:24 87:25 88:5 89:11 90:3 91:9 94:14 95:7 95:14 99:18 100:19 101:22 102:3,10,20 103:9,22 104:13 105:17 110:10 112:17 113:5 114:13,24 116:6 117:22 118:8,12 119:6 121:3 121:16,23 122:5,16,22 123:15,23 125:23 126:4,14,18 126:21,24 127:6,21 129:1,4,6,8 129:21,22 130:2,15,19 131:4 133:5 134:2,18 136:10 137:8 139:7 139:13,21 141:14 142:2 145:10 146:20 150:17 151:13,15 152:2,6,25 153:7,19 154:25 156:1,13 159:7 161:9 163:19 165:21 166:15,18 169:17 170:8,17 171:23 172:3,25 173:11 174:14,18 174:23 175:5,13 176:1,7,11 177:12 178:8 179:8 179:16 180:24 181:6 182:6 182:20 183:13,18 184:8 188:16 190:5 194:14,16 194:22,25 195:17 196:10,12 196:13,21 196:23 197:19 198:19 199:2,10,24 200:8 Pike's 199:7 pilot 10:20 23:5 26:14 38:16 40:23,24 41:6 60:23 60:25 85:2 91:20 147:7 193:8 197:21,24 piloting 67:19 pilots 23:1 24:4 25:19 26:3 26:10 27:16 68:23 69:2 85:8 99:5 147:25 193:19 pilot's 25:5 pilot/mec... 64:22 pinch 175:22 pinpoint 52:12 place 26:24 37:10 51:18 53:20 61:24 86:16 100:5 111:25 114:18 135:16,19 154:10 168:19 188:4 places 13:13 51:25 188:15 Plains 95:22,25 96:3 plaintiff 1:6,14 2:2 2:19 190:8 Plaintiffs 2:8,14 Plaintiff's 4:17,24 plan 31:5 32:14 32:14,24 33:2,3,4,15 33:18,19 34:10,21 35:1,7,11 42:1,2,12 93:13 plane 26:3 28:22 29:1,13,14 31:16 32:15 33:20,21 34:7,9,23 35:6,8,10 35:14,25 36:17,21 37:15 47:10 47:14,21 48:7,10,12 48:13,23 50:8,20,23 51:14 52:1 65:8 68:19 73:13,16 74:10,22 75:3 77:7 77:15 82:12 84:15 91:20 91:23 93:6 93:15,16 96:18,24 122:12 132:20,24 140:24,25 141:1 157:15 169:7,9 192:21 193:1,8 197:1,7,12 197:21,24 198:2,4,22 planes 6:4,10 11:18 37:18,19 51:20 91:2 92:2,19 plans 42:19,25 47:12,17 plan's 34:23 play 82:14 playing 49:12,14,16 49:17,18 82:15 plead 174:20 pleading 175:1 please 32:6 40:12 129:10,14 129:24 177:16 196:17 200:24 pleasure 195:11 pled 199:9,14,19 200:7 plus 11:23 pocket 29:15,19,20 29:21,23 PODHURST 2:15 point 20:15 46:12 47:23 52:16 52:22 55:21 56:3 67:21 70:12 73:18 73:19 74:13 74:15 96:22 96:23 103:6 138:12 140:9 143:22 180:20 183:10 192:20 pointed • 0 Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE www.esqui reso ut ons.corn EFTA00181458
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I 226 October 6, 20O9 " 10:13 police 135:25 policies 38:14,15 152:16 pre-printed 180:7 primarily 79:25 99:25 108:4 124:21,21 134:21 141:4 142:19 180:10 proximity 67:18 public 15:24 21:20 66:13 query 81:7 question 13:22 14:11 41:17 124:19 161:23 64:12 14:16,16,19 politics primary 164:23 publicly 17:2 18:20 168:25 5:21 59:18 185:7 9:25 19:16 32:19 portion 100:4 problem published 50:6 65:14 139:15 120:15 36:2 66:1 175:15 65:15 66:7 position Prince 79:10 pull 71:12 72:18 10:5,12 143:1,9,17 problems 95:20 87:9,16 24:18 26:19 170:6,11,15 102:14 purpose 129:11,16 69:20,22,24 prior 130:12 19:11 49:23 129:23,25 140:3 10:1 63:14 process 51:11,13 130:4,6 possible 70:4 85:3 35:22 128:22 92:1,2 132:7 134:6 121:21 90:7 100:16 processes 100:14 196:1,18 possibly 114:4,20 11:23 105:7,8 198:7 51:24 83:7 131:23 procuring 123:5 199:13 poundage 133:18 156:10,11 124:13,14 200:2 138:22 private 175:1 127:23 questions present 13:8 21:10 professional 174:2 14:6,17 66:6 132:18 37:17 71:2 25:5 177:24 183:21 76:14 president 95:19,23 182:22 purposes 104:24 22:10 124:4 121:9 program 114:8,9 130:18 124:22 140:21 13:10 97:13 117:20 190:3,6,17 140:24 145:23 97:14,15 126:11 195:19 141:1 146:2 promoted 175:2 196:16 171:10,13 184:17 41:1 put 197:3 199:2 pressuriz... privately proper 31:16,17 quick 26:8 30:1 31:3 20:2 113:14 37:16 79:8 85:18 presumably privileged 130:20 80:23 150:5 quickly 74:10 131:5,6,7 140:19,23 152:24 74:6 presumption 132:5 properties putting quit 161:7 privy 188:3 194:3 151:22 116:14 pretty 38:7 171:3 property P-A-X 171:16 30:6,7,9 47:16 68:5 probably 15:8 19:15 166:13 167:25 146:6 P.A 190:9 quite 69:22 92:9 27:5 36:24 169:1 2:9,15,20 66:2 112:8 104:20 39:4 45:20 187:25 p.m 155:10,11 previous 8:5 10:10 48:11 50:13 60:15,18 193:21 prosecute 1:15 48:8 R 18:22 24:20 70:20 71:21 177:2,4 racing 60:9 76:5 73:9 75:5 prospect quarter 62:23,24 84:5 158:19 75:10 81:24 68:25 187:23 radar previously 95:2,18 protocol queen 93:8 40:23,24 98:19 130:20 94:19 raised 76:14 105:12 140:19 queried 67:5 ESQUIRE .0A eeeee WleCOOPsfl Toll Free: Facsimile: www. esq u i resol utions.corn • • • EFTA00181459
• d Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 227 raising 156:21,25 136:22 32:19 102:18 129:12 174:22 137:1,2 registered 103:1 ramp 175:10,16 146:14 145:14 104:22 132:13 176:22,24 reasoning regular 145:8 154:6 ran 177:11 47:3 152:15 82:10 158:1,10,12 149:20 184:5 164:7 Regulations 159:22 ranch reading recall 80:22 171:17 163:6,12 16:10 133:22 191:3 197:2 REINHART 172:15,21 164:9,18,21 134:4,8 197:6 3:14,15 5:23 186:5 165:13,14 ready recognize 13:21 18:19 relations... 165:18,25 130:2 154:15,19 32:3 34:1,4 19:7 166:4,21,23 real 191:7 34:15 36:6 relative 167:1,12,15 7:6 12:19,19 recognizes 39:8 50:1 134:3 135:4 167:19,25 12:20 23:15 25:8,10 54:14 56:22 release 168:3 74:6 98:17 recollection 57:19,23 135:16 169:12 103:20 77:14 191:9 65:9 66:9 relief 171:11,20 133:13 195:14 73:11,15 180:3 171:21,25 190:2 record 75:23 76:1 relocation 172:1 188:4 realize 14:12 37:22 76:9 96:16 181:16 189:11,11 35:24 174:20 38:8,18 99:9 106:21 remain 193:21 190:16 70:13,14 122:8,10 85:23 random really 78:23 79:8 126:3,5 remarks 104:24 13:9 46:2,2 137:14,22 129:3 130:5 181:13 raped 65:24 66:13 144:5 157:4 131:2,5,9 remember 198:22 71:25 83:9 159:17 132:5 9:9 12:14 rapport 90:6 92:5 records 137:14,20 19:21,22 64:23 93:12 44:2 46:6 139:19,22 28:23 38:14 rare 102:21 122:3,11 141:2 144:5 50:22,24 96:21 118:16,23 recruiting 148:7,9,25 51:3,22,25 rarely 118:25 121:13 157:3 52:3,4,5,6 112:3 133:14 Red 158:16 52:8,9,11 rating 147:16 10:3 62:18 159:16 52:17,25 25:7 193:15 148:3 62:19,21,22 177:16 53:2,7 66:8 193:16 153:10 62:24 191:13,18 67:23 71:21 reach 154:7 REDIRECT 192:6,10 72:1,3,6,15 40:16 158:11 4:12 199:5 198:25 72:23 73:1 read 165:13 Reed related 74:17 75:25 16:14,18 171:6 5:21,25 60:5 19:3 23:17 76:2,21 55:5,7,12 56:1,6 79:6 180:13 195:21 60:7 referring 79:13 relationship 77:2,5,13 78:6 83:17 80:19 89:17 200:10 140:11 15:3,7,22 83:20 89:17 103:13 reason regard 16:11,23 93:2 95:1 112:23 42:13 58:16 197:5 20:11,22 95:17 98:7 117:4,11 58:18 68:12 regarding 21:1 23:20 98:24,24 133:10 135:24 137:5,6 154:22 80:23 82:3 82:16,18 92:7 120:15 131:20 196:25 regardless 14:10 regards 24:2,6 55:19 64:23 81:21 87:10 87:10,20 99:4,6,14 99:17,19,21 103:14,25 105:7,22 • ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: wwvv.esquireso utions.com EFTA00181460
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Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 229 83:6 85:8 85:24 86:14 86:21 127:10,18 147:22 185:6 Rodriguez 188:23 Romeo 196:5,5,7,7 Roof 10:3 62:18 62:19,21,22 62:24 room 28:14,21 29:24 81:17 93:21 94:16 94:17,18,21 118:4,11 176:10 MOMS 166:1 ROSENFELDT 2:3 ROTHSTEIN 2:3 round 94:7 172:10 route 114:20 routing 47:20 rows 28:5 rumors 63:21 run 126:16 163:11,13 171:12 running 171:9 173:4 173:8 runs 173:1 runway 72:25 R-E-E-D 5:25 S S 3:16 sad 156:6 safe 175:9 sail 185:20 20 sailor 185:20 Salaried 184:13 salary 69:11,19,21 90:12,15 101:4,5 183:5 salon 28:1,2,19,20 29:19,22 93:23,24 94:6 118:21 sample 101:17 samples 12:16 San 107:12,13 109:1 112:5 113:1,8,21 113:21 114:1,4,8,8 114:17 115:21,25 116:8 121:13 124:20 125:11 141:8 144:11 149:5,9 150:15 152:10 154:2 155:5 157:11 159:15,20 159:24 160:24 161:6,7,16 161:21 162:23 163:4 164:25 165:4 176:18,18 177:4,8 181:19,22 sat 97:4 115:1 satisfied 26:18 save 137:13 saw 18:21 45:8 45:11,13 49:24 52:22 52:23 53:1 53:8,16,23 73:9 90:8 108:2 116:20 139:1 149:19,20 154:10,15 157:19 166:16 167:10 182:7,7 183:3 189:8 191:12 197:22,25 saying 7:7 25:10 31:14 33:1 72:17,23 75:4 81:18 81:22 82:15 100:4 104:15 116:22 118:14 123:7,17,18 140:7 175:24 says 138:13 146:4 155:1 157:9 157:13 161:16 scared 197:7 scene 42:8 schedule 165:7 scheduled 90:25 scheduling 113:2 139:5 Schmo 42:14 school 10:12 20:5,6 20:8 91:25 133:16 schooled 99:13 science 135:13,15 scratch 180:8 se 158:5 seating 28:3,11 seats 27:17 93:25 94:20 second 5:24 13:21 Secret 9:20 12:1 43:11 secretary 109:6 sections 29:16 secure 82:3 see 17:21 18:13 27:16 29:13 33:1 37:4 45:25 50:10 50:16,19 67:14 81:18 87:7 89:18 89:22 93:17 93:23 101:20 114:23 117:13,16 117:19 122:1 125:17 139:16 140:3,8,13 147:6 153:11 157:14 165:8,22 166:5 167:11 180:3 181:11 191:20 200:18 seeing 52:9,17,25 53:2 116:13 116:25 166:22,24 167:7,8 seemingly 68:5 seen 30:5 42:23 49:9 53:25 118:1 154:9 161:19 179:1 send 115:7 separately • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esquireso S utions.corn EFTA00181462
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009" 230 192:24 serve 22:14 45:3 served 121:6 service 7:16 47:18 92:13 95:24 96:1 115:13 set 24:19 28:4 44:14 57:10 121:20 seven 123:11,25 sex 49:9 111:15 117:9 121:1 121:14 125:20 126:11 175:2 177:3 178:5 sexual 102:24 117:19 140:12 159:22 sexually 18:8 117:13 117:16 139:6 151:25 197:13 198:21 sex-related 49:9 shake 188:18 shaking 127:3 Shalom 189:24 shape 7:25 share 104:8 187:23 shared 104:6 Sharon 18:21 63:16 63:18,18 She'd 102:11 shock 197:15 shocker 104:16 shoot 111:4,6 186:24 190:12 196:9 shoots 110:2,23 111:1 shops 12:18 short 46:19 62:13 67:6 74:19 74:21 85:4 101:10 108:3,5 146:6 shortly 26:24 show 81:1 101:16 122:3 134:23 137:11 158:13 172:5 176:14 181:12 showed 136:16,17,18 136:22,25 175:8 showing 138:8 153:14 Shuttle 181:25 sic 28:16 30:6 47:4 144:12 149:4 150:14 155:9 157:12 192:14 side 27:22 29:20 29:21 111:8 sideways 25:16,21,23 25:25 26:4 26:5 Sierra 196:7 sign 85:13 signed 85:15 91:16 silly 156:8 200:13 similar 30:3 31:5 35:12 147:3 156:25 single 93:25 94:20 sir 196:1,4,8 sit 26:5 77:15 119:8 128:13 130:14,17 183:10,17 sits 25:21,23 27:18 sitting 26:4 81:17 103:12 125:15 128:7 129:18,20 183:20 situation 82:22 six 116:23 123:25 size 94:19 skip 156:24 157:6 skipped 7:23 slave 117:9 sleeping 50:13 slide 143:16 small 29:10 41:4 63:6 93:11 102:11 166:1 small-knit 30:19 smart 144:1 sneak 82:11 social 19:18 71:9 87:10 177:22 soft 98:11,12 sold 32:25 35:11 35:12 64:24 84:5 85:5 169:3 solely 87:21 somebody 9:19 14:5 16:4 41:9 73:2 75:13 81:7 91:24 111:15,23 126:12 127:15 128:10 133:3,21 146:8 150:10,19 150:19 153:21 154:20 160:5,8,18 161:6 165:7 174:16 186:25 somebody's 127:13 165:19 something's 58:20 181:4 son 17:18,20 120:20 sons 143:19 sorry 13:24 14:1 23:22 28:2 31:23 35:4 35:19 54:17 58:1 65:11 65:24 72:20 78:2 87:9 96:16 106:21 117:5 122:8 126:3 129:12 139:19 143:11,12 143:22 153:21 177:18 189:18 190:15,25 191:7 194:24 195:22 sort 45:3 sorts 157:20 souls 41:25 42:3,4 Toll Free: Facsimile: ESQUIRE *I, A/ ander Calla Cara, • • • EFTA00181463
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I October 6, 2009 • • 231 47:19 sound 191:8 sounds 111:25 150:8 182:2 187:4 189:20 South 67:5 86:6,13 Southwest 44:24 Spacey 125:4 Spain 192:2 speak 20:23 21:9 Speaking 135:15 specific 16:19 51:25 67:23 97:12 specifically 10:3 62:23 spring 12:15 St 100:7,9 151:3,4,8 151:14,17 185:19 191:20 stack 137:15 staff 124:19 125:13 141:11 162:4 Staley 23:2 39:19 39:20 40:1 41:10,12 43:24 44:1 47:4 79:25 stand 120:7 138:17 starting 14:22 68:16 120:4 state 28:21 29:24 32:22 33:14 62:4,8,12 94:16,17,17 94:21 stated 68:13 193:7 statehoods 46:16 statements 129:9 States 52:2 stateside 159:10 stating 32:18 82:16 STC 27:9 Stein 109:7,8 111:23 step 82:5 stepped 7:18 steps 185:17 stereo 185:3 sticks 111:10 stint 62:13 stop 24:13 96:8 116:16 129:4 stopped 116:8 123:10 71:3 83:3 Street 2:16 105:24 106:11 108:14,25 133:20 strictly 49:20,21 58:24 183:23 strike 106:8 134:2 136:10 137:8 153:19 174:23 175:5 176:1 177:12 student 135:9 stuff 13:10 30:23 43:9 51:10 28:17 37:21 80:21 193:10 114:20 197:2 69:22 67:22 76:21 standard station 199:19 103:19 89:2 160:21 44:25 47:18 125:16 200:19 113:15,18 speculate standing statute store 138:6 16:10 29:13 138:21 12:18 151:20,22 speculation stands stay stores 162:6 166:4 16:13 66:15 89:7 24:11 83:14 8:11,23 173:2 spell Stanleys 96:5,12 11:24 12:6 184:10 5:23 61:10 158:21 159:1 105:14 22:10,17,18 185:5 146:25 spelled start 10:22 41:5 108:13 148:19,22 62:25 200:23 stupid 146:22 59:14 75:19 148:24 100:10 160:8 143:18 spelling 88:23 105:3 149:9,10 160:9,15,18 Subconsci... 196:2 129:11 156:18 160:22 120:11 spend 138:16 164:17,17 161:4,22 subpoena 58:23 started 164:24 46:6 56:17 spent 20:16 21:2 168:2 121:6 135:16 24:10 43:18 stayed 163:3 suburb spoken 43:19 45:11 17:4 103:11 straight 67:10 19:1,6 52:13 62:8 149:8 177:25 sudden 199:11 63:8,20 165:25 strange 146:12 sporadically 65:1 88:11 166:2 35:4 153:4 sued 87:8 95:21,25 182:12 161:22 131:18,20 Sports 111:6 stays strangers Suite 116:13 27:21 2:5,11,22 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: www.esouiresolutions.corn EFTA00181464
Larry Eugene Morrison - Volume I 232 October 6, 200.9 ' a 3:4,10,16 support 124:19 93:9 T 131:25 144:25 155:23 196:18,19 tell 5:15 21:15 test 142:19 172:9 172:10 125:13 table 188:4,5 23:16 35:6 181:14 141:10 29:10 65:20 talking 45:2 53:10 testified 174:8,16 81:17 93:11 7:8 22:1 60:21 90:17 5:11 supported 93:24,25 24:14,24 100:13 testify 174:10 183:2 27:12,13 124:2 119:8 suppose tables 34:17 36:7 125:20 testimony 41:1 28:10 39:11 45:17 126:1 138:4 5:4 32:12 sure take 45:24 48:21 142:13 133:3 26:15 31:24 7:21 12:15 67:12 70:16 145:19 175:16,17 38:18 45:10 12:19 26:16 75:2 77:18 147:22 176:6 178:4 46:14 51:12 32:3 46:18 77:19 84:1 148:4,5 Teterboro 52:4 53:24 47:22 48:2 85:11 88:11 151:8,17,24 159:13 66:2 72:8 48:7 54:19 92:21 96:20 155:3 Thank 73:7 77:13 79:17 82:4 98:21 102:5 158:14 54:18 78:22 98:25 99:10 95:3 96:14 113:2,9,19 163:2 195:19,20 106:9 97:9,21 139:22,24 171:17 196:8,10,10 109:18 98:1,6 141:12 175:17 Thanks 113:13,16 101:10 153:5 171:7 180:15,16 153:16,23 116:24 110:3 196:22,24 186:8 189:2 thing 141:3 142:4 126:15,24 199:17 198:1,9,12 8:13 14:11 143:6,12 127:2,4 talks 198:15,20 42:1 111:3 147:16,17 150:14,19 41:18 156:24 199:8,14,22 111:10 148:4 165:1 164:16 task 200:5 144:9 156:8 170:22,22 175:24 37:24 telling 164:2 178:19 180:15 taxicab 63:25 180:17 183:1,3 taken 166:20,22 tells things 185:25 1:14 14:2,4 taxicabs 162:22 32:21 47:20 189:23 45:21 56:12 166:17 175:21 98:15 surprise 91:23 Taylor ten 102:15 18:10 111:21 takes 23:2 80:1 20:19 48:8 113:17 139:4,8 15:1 73:20 team 66:5 68:6 135:13,14 surprising 98:16 62:24 160:17 82:8 107:5 137:5 144:1 137:5 talk technician 124:25 156:20,23 surrounded 22:5 40:3 11:2 21:4 158:19 172:24 101:21 87:8 88:15 22:14 23:24 tenants 199:21 swear 102:11 25:1 36:25 108:24 200:6 5:4 110:19,20 41:8 62:18 tend think switching 131:23 67:15 55:16 6:21 7:4 83:7 132:14,17 technicians terms 15:18,25 sworn 151:20,21 24:5 53:10 79:18 17:19 19:15 5:11 178:3 182:16 telephone 90:15 35:20 42:9 system 200:11 2:14,19 3:7 terrible 45:11,15 41:14 talked 21:10 46:20 96:1 189:9 46:13 55:1 systems 40:1,5 83:6 79:3 88:3 Terry 55:4,8 25:22 26:7 127:9 101:13,18 47:4 61:11 64:18 ESQUIRE Toll Free: Facsimile: 'ma www.esquiresolutions.com • • • EFTA00181465
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