wanted to go? 16 A. Well, they owned their own homes or 19 something. I don't know what their living 20 arrangements were. 21 O. Did you know Larry Rodgers or David Visoski 22 before this? 23 A. Before? 24 MR. PIKE: Form. 25 BY MR. EDWARDS: 88 1 BY MR. EDWARDS: 2 O. Okay. Alright. So in 2001