a. S O. But any time you needed to talk to him. that's 6 where he would be? 7 A. Yeah, and I usually went to Charlie 8 Hinson. 9 O. Who's Charlie Hinson? 10 A. He was the president of the stores. He 11 basically was my gobehveen for these aircraft 12 completions for the design. 13 O. And you m