10 A. Jet Aviation. Jet aviation did the 11 avionics and soft goods. 12 O. And when you say the 'soft goods; what do you 13 mean by that? 14 A. Carpet, fabrics, leather, you know, 15 different things like that. 16 O. When's the first time it takes off then on a 17 real flight - some time in 20