and & Ellis, and Lilly Ann Sanchez, I believe who met 16 with you. 17 A Fair. I remember it was Starr and Lefkowitz. I 18 don't know if it was Lilly Ann. 19 Q All right, and our information is it was you, Drew 20 Oosterbaan, Sloman, , and John MacMillan. Do you -- 21 do you know John MacMillan?

and & Ellis, and Lilly Ann Sanchez, I believe who met 16 with you. 17 A Fair. I remember it was Starr and Lefkowitz. I 18 don't know if it was Lilly Ann. 19 Q All right, and our information is it was you, Drew 20 Oosterbaan, Sloman, , and John MacMillan. Do you -- 21 do you know John MacMillan?

and & Ellis, and Lilly Ann Sanchez, I believe who met 16 with you. 17 A Fair. I remember it was Starr and Lefkowitz. I 18 don't know if it was Lilly Ann. 19 Q All right, and our information is it was you, Drew 20 Oosterbaan, Sloman, , and John MacMillan. Do you -- 21 do you know John MacMillan?

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d,” said Jack Goldberger, ‘xgone of Epstein; attorneys. “We think this shows what this case is all about: money.” He and another Epstein attorney, Lilly Ann Sanchez, launched an immediate. counterof- fensive, even. showing up at Herman’s news conference outside the federal courthouse in West Palm Beach. Th