From: online_sadhu_sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]> <online_sadhu_sanga@googlegrou ps.com<mailto:[email protected]» on behalf of Brad Bartholomew <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]» Sent: 21 July 2016 03:11:04 To: Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: SV: [Sadhu Sanga) Consciousness Dear Soren & Witt I think most scientists would agree with the propositions of Seth Lloyd in his book Programming the Universe that the universe is a gigantic quantum computer (although why in this age of miniaturization a quantum computer needs to be the size of the universe to generate the universe is another question). If Seth Lloyd is right then everything in this universe is ultimately computer generated. As for consciousness the fact is that we are relying on consciousness in order to ask the question What is consciousness? And the fact that after all the advancements in computer science we can fundamentally disagree on such a basic question as to whether consciousness is computer generated or not means that ultimately we will never be able to completely answer that question. It is the same for physicists seeking the theory of everything. They are entities within the universe seeking to know everything about the universe. They are ultimately bound by the program that set them up in the first place.This is the way Seth Lloyd explains it: "Godel showed that the capacity for self-reference leads automatically to paradoxes in logic; the British mathematician Alan Turing showed that self-reference leads to uncomputability in computers." When a computer processes data the data contains instructions to the computer as to its source. Virtual drives are set up on computers that give the computer false information as to the source of the data and the computer is none the wiser. This is what I meant when I said that computers are tricked every day as to the source of the data they are processing. Sensory data contains instructions that it is coming from a physical external world, but it ain't necessarily so. Kind regards Brad On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 5:37 AM, Soren Brier <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]» wrote: Dear Brad As a biologist I will deny that we are a computers in the Turing understanding of it. I know we try to imitate living neural networks in the dead computers we have now. It gives a few steps forward but does not really solve the deed problem. You need to define a much more general model for computation that can cover what our machine do as well as living organisms including those without a brain do and how socio-communicative function. As a scientist and philosopher I have to say that we have not agreed on what we are or what the world is constructed from. No doubt the concepts of matter, energy, force and information are depicting true aspects of reality, but when I in neurobiology and psychology was looking for experience and qualia in the nervous system, I — and nobody else - did not find any. There is some insufficiencies on our metaphysical framework. This is why i am interested in the debate with other cultural metaphysics of which Advaita Vedanta is one of the more interesting and I think can be brought into harmony with a new physical understanding build on quantum physics and non-equilibrium thermodynamics systems science and cybernetics and last but no least Peircean semiotics. 13 EFTA_R1_01309157 EFTA02342305

Best wishes Soren Brier Professor in the semiotics of information, cognition and communication science, department of International Business Communication, Copenhagen Business School, Home page: <http://www.cbs.dk/staff/sbibc> www.cbs.dk/staff/sbibc<http://www.cbs.dk/staff/sbibc>. Transdisciplinary framework: Cybersemiotics.com<http://cybersemiotics.com/> Editor in chief of Cybernetics & Human Knowing <http://ckkjournal.com/> chkjournal.com<http://chkjournal.com/> 2015 JPBMB Special Issue on Integral Biomathics: Life Sciences, Mathematics and Phenomenological Philosophy<http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/00796107/119/3> (note: free access to all articles until July 19th, 2016) Fra: online_sadhu_sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:online_sadhu_sanga@goo glegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>] PS vegne af Brad Bartholomew Sendt: 20. juli 2016 20:09 Til: Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]> Emne: Re: SV: [Sadhu Sanga] Consciousness Dear Soren Well you know it is undeniable in my opinion that consciousness is computer generated. It is also undeniable that we are a computer generated entity that is trying to figure out what it is. Ergo we come up against that fundamental principle in computer science that we can't think outside the program. Once you accept the fact that consciousness comes from sensory data then all bets are off as to the actual source of that data. Computers are tricked every day as to the source of the data they are processing. Kind regards Brad On 20 Jul 2016 07:29, "Soren Brier" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]» wrote: Dear Brad The knotty question is also: Why looks at the television screen. That question makes your model collapse. Soren Fra: online_sadhu_sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:online_sadhu_sanga@goo glegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>] PS vegne af Brad Bartholomew Sendt: 19. juli 2016 19:45 Til: Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]> Emne: Re: [Sadhu Sanga] Consciousness With respect I think consciousness is the easiest thing of all to explain. It is the representation of sensory data on the cortex of the brain that acts as a sophisticated television screen that we can smell taste and touch as well as see and 14 EFTA_R1_01309158 EFTA02342306

hear. The knotty question is whether that sensory data actually comes from a real physical external world as it appears to do, or whether the source of that data is within us as per the Hindu tradition. My vote is for the latter. Kind regards Brad www.spiritualgenome.com<http://www.spiritualgenome.comh On 18 Jul 2016 7:13 a.m., "Peter Moskovitz" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]» wrote: I've no idea how my email address got attached to this conversation and I'm rather certain that my comments will be unwelcome, but, arrogant pedant that I am, you shall have them. That Dawkins does not understand consciousness comes as no surprise. Any conversation with Hammeroff is, a priori, non-informative. Consciousness obeys the laws of chaos (randomness does no occur in nature), as do quantum fields, but consciousness has nothing to do with the perturbation of quantum fields in any part of the nervous system. It was a nice try, but a silly one. Consciousness has no contents. It is about something (intensionality) but it has no contents, nothing that can be observed, measured, recorded or analysed. Therefore, there is no "granularity" of consciousness: qualia do not exist. The hard problem is an illusion. Mysterianism is not so much a lack of knowledge as it is a lack of imagination and insight. As Adam Zeman put it: If your theory admits to the existence of zombies, your theory needs fixed. You have to say that with a Scottish accent. Consciousness (the feeling of what happens, the remembered present) is the experience of perceptual contents. Do not mistake this definition with "the contents of perceptual experience". They sound alike, but the word order changes the meaning completely. Perceptual contents are the neural representation of stimuli, internal or external. Neural representations can be observed (if one's instruments are good enough), measured, recorded and analysed. The experience of the representation cannot, it is subjective, entirely subjective. Experience has no contents. Spirituality is a state of experience but it is not the "contents" of experience. (Which is one reason why the DL has declared that if neuroscience disproves his beliefs, he will search for new beliefs, brave fellow.) Consciousness is the synchronous oscillation of massively interconnected, multidimensional, recursive circuits, networks and systems throughout the global workspace. What enters awareness probably oscillates at about 40 hz. Oscillation at partial and harmonic frequencies probably effect how the perceptual apparatus represents transduced stimuli, how other perceptual contents enter consciousness and awareness and how contents are retained to enter awareness later, when the stimulus is remote. The theory has no empirical support, though parts of it have been validated. It's not new, and certainly not with me. Theorists and investigators I like include Crick and Koch, Rudolfo Llinas, Wolf Singer, Henry Markram and many others. Certainly not Chalmers, Jackson, Nagel, McGinn, Hammeroff and Penrose, etc. Sorry, I warn most people that they shouldn't "get me started". I promise I'll send no more. PM Peter A. Moskovitz Clinical Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery and Neurological Surgery George Washington University Chairman, Board of Directors RSDSA (Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy Syndrome Association - www.rsds.org<http://www.rsds.org/>) 15 EFTA_R1_01309159 EFTA02342307

Member, Board of Directors FUDR (Friends of the Upper Delaware River) - www.fudr.org<http://www.fudr.org/> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 202.841-8122 Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles:http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> Life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/#instructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> 16 EFTA_R1_01309160 EFTA02342308

Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles:http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/tfinstructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> 17 EFTA_R1_01309161 EFTA02342309

life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.ore> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/ttinstructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles:http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> Life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizerchttp://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> 18 EFTA_R1_01309162 EFTA02342310

Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/#instructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Pun Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles:http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> Life and consciousness — The Veclantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/#instructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga 19 EFTA_R1_01309163 EFTA02342311

Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> Life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege:http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/#instructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. 20 EFTA_R1_01309164 EFTA02342312

Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to whom it is addressed, and may contain confidential, personal, and or privileged information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended recipient of this communication, and do not copy, distribute, or take action relying on it. Any communications received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donatechttp://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles:http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/#instructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. 21 EFTA_R1_01309165 EFTA02342313

Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donatechttp://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles:http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /aboutfifinstructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/aboutfifinstructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> 22 EFTA_R1_01309166 EFTA02342314

Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085B8> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /aboutfilinstructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles:http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> Life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> 23 EFTA_R1_01309167 EFTA02342315

Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizerchttp://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege:http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/#instructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.corn<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op tout<https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/ scienceandscientist/2016<http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016> Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org /donate<http://scienceandscientist.org/donate> Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2016.1160191<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191> Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.al s.20160601.03<http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03> Life and consciousness — The Veclantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/1942 0889.2015.1085138<http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138> Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org /harmonizer<http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer> Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org<http://bviscs.org/> Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org<http://scsiscs.org/> Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org /Darwin<http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin> 24 EFTA_R1_01309168 EFTA02342316

Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga /about/#instructions<http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions> Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga+unsubscribe @googlegroups.com<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to Online_Sadhu_Sanga@googlegroup s.com<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/grou p/Online_Sadhu_Sanga<https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga>. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/op toutchttps://groups.google.com/d/optout>. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016 Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org/donate Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191 Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03 Life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138 Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact 25 EFTA_R1_01309169 EFTA02342317

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Fourth International Conference 'Science and Scientist - 2016' August 26 — 27, 2016, Bangalore University http://scsiscs.org/conference/scienceandscientist/2016 Sponsorship and Donations for Vedanta and Science Dialogue: http://scienceandscientist.org/donate Reply to Gustavo Caetano-Anolles: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2016.1160191 Why Biology is Beyond Physical Sciences?: http://dx.doi.org/10.5923/j.als.20160601.03 Life and consciousness — The Vedantic view: http://dx.doi.org/10.1080/19420889.2015.1085138 Harmonizer: http://scienceandscientist.org/harmonizer Bhakti Vedanta Institute of Spiritual Culture & Science Princeton, NJ, USA: http://bviscs.org Sri Chaitanya Saraswat Institute: http://scsiscs.org Darwin Under Siege: http://scienceandscientist.org/Darwin Online Classes: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga/about/#instructions Sadhu-Sanga MP3s: http://mahaprabhu.net/satsanga Contact: http://scsiscs.org/contact You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Sadhu-Sanga Under the holy association of Spd. B.M. Puri Maharaja, Ph.D." group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/Online_Sadhu_Sanga. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. Alex Hankey M.A. (Cantab.) PhD (M.I.T.) Distinguished Professor of Yoga and Physical Science, 26 EFTA_R1_01309170 EFTA02342318

SVYASA, Eknath Bhavan, 19 Gavipuram Circle Bangalore 560019, Karnataka, India Mobile (Intn'I): +44 7710 534195<tel:%2B44%207710%20534195> Mobile (India) +91 900 800 8789 2015 JPBMB Special Issue on Integral Biomathics: Life Sciences, Mathematics and Phenomenological Philosophychttp://www.sciencedirect.comiscience/journal/00796107/119/3> please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved please note The information contained in this communication is confidential, may be attorney-client privileged, may constitute inside information, and is intended only for the use of the addressee. It is the property of JEE Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by e-mail to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>, and destroy this communication and all copies thereof, including all attachments. copyright -all rights reserved 27 EFTA_R1_01309171 EFTA02342319