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rk, 21 to help look at some of that. He was having some 22 advertising issues with the New York Daily News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was friendly with him and 25 liked him very much. And I think, should be said 4 (Pages 10 to 13) 4 (Pages 10 to
. 3 So I don't -- I don't remember if I did 4 meet him or not in 1990 with my dad, but I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before you 7 met -- 8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: This was before I met 9 Mr. Epstein. 10 TOD
ly News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was frie
y beginning of the conversation, 11 you mentioned President Trump in the early '90s. 12 GHISLAINE MAXWEL
t I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before
ANCHE: Yeah. 9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Do you want the names? 10 TODD BLANCHE: Sure. Go ahead. 11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Elizabeth Johnson -- 12 Johnson & Johnson. 13 TODD BLANCHE: When did -- as far as you 14 know, when did the relationship between Ms. Johnson 15 and Mr. Eps
rk, 21 to help look at some of that. He was having some 22 advertising issues with the New York Daily News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was friendly with him and 25 liked him very much. And I think, should be said MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 10 1
. 3 So I don't -- I don't remember if I did 4 meet him or not in 1990 with my dad, but I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before you 7 met -- 8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: This was before I met 9 Mr. Epstein. 10 TOD
ly News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was frie
t I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before
ANCHE: Yeah. 9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Do you want the names? 10 TODD BLANCHE: Sure. Go ahead. 11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Elizabeth Johnson -- 12 Johnson & Johnson. 13 TODD BLANCHE: When did -- as far as you 14 know, when did the relationship between Ms. Johnson 15 and Mr. Eps
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his clients. Oh, okay, right. Put this client off the side. And then you mentioned some other people who mentioned President Clinton. Yes. President Trump early on, who were other famous slash politicians, who were other individuals in Mr. Epstein's life during that time period? So the early 90s. And I
ther people who mentioned President Clinton. Yes. President Trump early on, who were other famous slash politicians
r. Epstein have? Why don't I just give you the names that I remember? Why don't I just give you the names? Do you want the names? No, sure, go ahead. Elizabeth Johnson. As far as you know, the relationship between Mr. Johnson and Mr. Epstein's start? 90s. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So during the time
u have, all of you, that when 22 you're so high pressured and you're spending so much 23 time with extraordinary people like you do with 24 President Trump, it -- it can blur. It just does. 25 And those few things that stand out, Page 254 1 because at the end it's all just extraordinary as
ime with extraordinary people like you do with 24 President Trump, it -- it can blur. It just does. 25
st want to 17 give you some context for the names as well. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Sure. 19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So we talked about 20 Elizabeth Johnson yesterday. 21 TODD BLANCHE: Uh-huh. 22 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: She had a boyfriend 23 and he was Frederic Fekkai, the hairdresser.
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fire fighting brothers and sisters. In fact, he is a regular attendee of fire fighter events and fundraisers. A Unitrust with a DAF for Education: Elizabeth Johnson, age 70, was a distinguished professor of biochemistry who devoted countless hours to research, writing and lecturing. During her years of study,
u have, all of you, that when 22 you're so high pressured and you're spending so much 23 time with extraordinary people like you do with 24 President Trump, it -- it can blur. It just does. 25 And those few things that stand out, Page 254 1 because at the end it's all just extraordinary as 2
Page: Interview_Transcript_Maxwell_2025-07-25-cft_p11 →ime with extraordinary people like you do with 24 President Trump, it -- it can blur. It just does. 25
Page: Interview_Transcript_Maxwell_2025-07-25-cft_p11 →st want to 17 give you some context for the names as well. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Sure. 19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So we talked about 20 Elizabeth Johnson yesterday. 21 TODD BLANCHE: Uh-huh. 22 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: She had a boyfriend 23 and he was Frederic Fekkai, the hairdresser.
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Prince Andrew
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Bill Clinton
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Alan Dershowitz
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Joe Biden
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Stephen Hawking
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Hillary Clinton
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John F. Kennedy
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George Mitchell
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Harvey Weinstein
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Les Wexner
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Chris Tucker
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Bradley Cooper
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Robert Gates
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