1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 jury what those two ways are? A The more you did is the more you make. Basically, the more clothes that come off, the more you let him touch you, the more you just let him have his way with you is the more that you would make, otherwise, you would be demoted down to bringing girls over and just making money that way. Q And that's what you were doing? A That's correct. Q Was bringing girls? A That's correct. Q If you could explain to the grand jury how you would go about making an appointment for girl to come and give a massage? A His assistant there would call me either before they got into town or while he was in town and either she would ask me for a particular girl, preferably one that he favored, or if I couldn't get a hold of that girl just bring somebody over to work. I would call the girl. She would okay it. I would call back, confirm it, set an appointment, and then the next couple of days we'd go. OFFICIAL RPPCIRTTNa cFRVT E, LLC EFTA00085391
18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And was the person that you always made the appointment with? A Always. Q Do you remember ever talking to Jeffrey Epstein on the telephone? A Never. The only time I talked to him was physically in person at his house. Q Okay. was really the person that you had to -- A Deal with Q Okay. Now you mentioned that sometimes would request a specific girl? A That's correct. Q Did she give you any reason why he really liked this girl or just is this girl available? What would happen on those calls? A If it was a specific girl, she would call me and just ask: Can this girl work? She would never give me a reason. She would never go into detail. It was just: Can she work, yes or no? work? Q And was saying to you can she A I can't recall if those were her exact words. I can't remember if it was: Can she come OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085392
19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 over and massage or can she work? I don't recall the exact words. Q Okay. And once you made those appointments then who would normally take you and the girls to the house? A I would. Q Okay. And you would drive? A I would drive. Q And were all -- was this always taking place at Mr. Epstein's home? A Yes. On Brillo Way? A That's correct. Q When you spoke with on the telephone, did you -- were all of these conversations about setting up these appointments? A When I would talk to Q Yes. A Yes. It would be pure business whenever I talked to Q So you didn't have any sort of friendly relationship? A No friendly relationship, never socialized unless I was at the house. It wasn't like that at all. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085393
20 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Okay. Now when you would bring a new girl over to the house, what would you do? A Walk up the same way towards the back of the house. They would let us in. I could sit in the kitchen with the girl. I would either wait for to come in or Jeffrey. Most of the time it was would bring the girl upstairs while I waited downstairs. After the massage, the girl would come downstairs. I would get paid and then we would leave. Q Tell us how you would get paid when you were the person who brought the girls. A What do you mean how I would get paid? Q Who would pay you? A Jeffrey Epstein would pull me aside whether it be in his, I guess, living room slash office. He would just make sure that when he paid me, it was just me and him, nobody else was around. Q And how much would you get paid for each girl? A $200. Q And again with the two 100 dollar bills? A Always 100 dollar bills. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085394
21 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Did you ever see the girl who actually did the massages get paid? A No, I never saw them get paid. He never paid us in front of each other. Q Okay. Did the girls ever tell you that they did get paid or how much they got paid? A Most of the time. Q Okay. And how much money would each girl get paid? A It ranges. Q From? A It ranges from 200 to some got paid 300. Like I said, the more you do, the more you make. There were a couple of girls that got paid 300, 400, and then there were a couple of girls that got paid 200 maybe even 100. Q Now you mentioned that usually would take the girl upstairs? A That's correct. Q Were there ever instances where you took the girl upstairs? A Very rarely. I think it happened once or twice where was doing something or she would need me to go upstairs and set up. I would just go upstairs. I would show her where the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085395
22 '1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 massage table was. I would set it up for them. I would show them where the towels were, put the towels on the massage table and then I would tell them Jeffrey would be in, in a minute and then I would walk back downstairs and wait in the kitchen. Q Okay. And when you were in these other instances where you led the girl upstairs, besides the massage table, did you ever see any other implements that were used during the massage? A I think there were maybe a few occasions where I would walk upstairs to show the girl or maybe it was even when I first massaged him, there was like a white massager on the table or a white vibrator. Q And can you describe that to the grand jury? A What it looked like? Q What it looked like, yes. A It was like a cylinder. It was really big. The head was bigger. It was white. I think the top of it was maybe like pink. It was big, that's all I remember. Q Okay. And did any of the girls ever tell you that that was used on them? e., LLC OFFICIAL larnekomitan CODUTfln EFTA00085396
23 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Q names of confirm A Q Q Q A Q Yes. Okay. Now I'm going to run through the some girls that you brought just to with the grand jury that you brought them. Okay. That's correct. Correct. Correct. Yes. A Yes. Q And then there is another girl, never, ever, ever worked for A Jeffrey. She accompanied me to his house I think once or twice and waited in the kitchen with me, but she never worked for him. Q Okay. But she was somebody that you brought along with you? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085397
24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A That is correct. Q On visits? A Yes. Q Okay. In addition to those girls that who I just named, you mentioned a woman, who is 23? A Uh-huh. Q Were there any other girls that you recall bringing to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A I cannot recall bringing anybody else. Q Okay. Now one of those girls that we mentioned was correct? A Yes. Q And you told the police that Jeffrey liked the best? A Yes. Q How old was A She was around the same age as me, maybe a grade lower than me. Q Okay. So she was under age? A Yes, correct. Q And all of those girls who names I read were under age when you brought them there? A Except for Q Okay. What did look like? OFFICIAL REPORTINfl SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085398
25 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A was Hispanic. She kind of looks Korean, but she's Hispanic, Hawaiian, maybe. She had a dark complexion. She had hair down to the middle of her back, long, highlights. Q Was she thin or heavy? A No. She was maybe -- she had a boxy type figure, maybe a little lighter than me. Q And how tall do you think she was? A About 5'S, 5'6. Q Okay. And you knew that Jeffrey liked because he would specifically request her? A There was a few occasions that he would specifically ask for her, correct. Q Okay. And you mentioned that some of the girls told you about the massager being used, correct? A Yes. Q Did some of girls tell you what happened inside of that bedroom? A A few of them did. Q Let's talk first about A Okay. Q Did she tell you what happened? A All that she really told me was that they got into a money fight. He had tried OFFICIAL pppripprmr qx-DvrcE, LLC EFTA00085399
26 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 fondling her. She wasn't having it, and then she only got paid $100 and she ripped off. Q Okay. What about felt like she was being , did she tell you about what happened? A Yes. Q What did she explain to you? A on the way home, had told me she got paid $300, and basically let him insert in her and use the massager on her. Q Okay. And she told you those things? A She told me those things. Q That he had her and had used the massager? A That's correct. Q Okay. And that was -- when did she tell you that? A Right when we got outside into the truck. Q As you were driving away? A That's correct. Q Do you remember which other girls told you about the massager being used? A I can't recall. I know there was another one that said something about the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085400
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 27 massager, but I wasn't really paying attention. Q Now when you first went and gave Mr. Epstein the massage, did he ask for your telephone number after you were finished? A No, did. Q did. And she took down your telephone number? A She took down my name and my telephone number. Q After that, how was all contact made with you? A Q Directly to you? A Directly toward me. Q Okay. So were there any more instances where she went either through-or to reach you? A Absolutely not. Q Okay. Now when you brought girls over was it the same thing where they would ask for the girl's name and number? A Yes. Q And when that happened, would they continue to go through you to set up appointments? A Most of time they went through me. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085401
28 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Actually 99.9 percent of the time they went through me. On a few occasions, the girls that they liked the best, for instance, after a while me and stopped contact with each other and Jeffrey just went strictly through her. Q Okay. And when an appointment was made directly with the girl, you wouldn't necessarily know about it? A I would not necessarily know about it. Q And when the appointment was made directly with the girl then you wouldn't get paid, correct? A Correct. Q Did you hear or do you know whether some girls that you brought, brought more girls? A Yeah, I'm sure of it. Q Okay. When did you first meet Was it that day that you went to give the massage? A That's correct. Q And how did you first meet her? A Just walking in the kitchen and waiting for somebody whether it be Epstein or came and introduced herself as learned that she was Epstein's assistant. and I OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085402
29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22. 23 24 25 Q And you said that she was the one who took you upstairs on the first day? A That's correct. Q And we were talking earlier about how appointments would be made for you to bring additional girls, correct? A Yes. Q How far in advance would call you to make appointments? A It depends. Sometimes she would call me . a few days in advance. Jeffrey is going to be in town tomorrow or this weekend, have a couple of girls lined up or have a girl lined up. So it would be anywhere between a couple of days to a weekend. Q Okay. Did you ever talk with or did ever tell you anything about what Jeffrey liked to do with the girls? A Absolutely not. We never discussed that. Q Did you ever talk with her about a rumor that you had heard that a girl had intercourse with Jeffrey? A One day I was talking on the phone with Sarah and I addressed her with it, asking her OFFICIAL prDnI)PTWr evouTCE, LLC EFTA00085403
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 30 about a rumor I heard of a girl sleeping with Jeffrey, having intercourse, and making $1 ,000, and she denied it and said that he doesn't do that kind of thing, he just plays with them. Q Okay. So she said that he didn't have intercourse, he just liked to play with the girls? A That's correct. Q And when you spoke with the police, you said that Jeffrey liked to masturbate in front of the girls but not have sex? A That's correct. Q What led you to believe that? A He just did it. I just learned that Epstein just started masturbating in front of everybody. It was like the new thing for him, and it just started happening and more and more girls were making comments. Q So did know that he was masturbating in front of the girls? A Not that I know of. I didn't say anything and I don't think she had an idea. think she knew there was playing going on. don't think she knew of what sort. Q Okay. So she knew that something sexual was going on, but not necessarily what that OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085404
31 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 entailed? A Correct. Q Okay. Did Jeffrey or or anyone else who worked for Mr. Epstein ever ask you for proof of someone's age? A Never. Q Did they ever specifically instruct you that you shouldn't bring girls who were under age to the house? A Never. Q And when you spoke with the police department you said that at some point Jeffrey said the A Q but make A comment younger the better? That's correct. And even after that he never said sure that they are over 18? We never discussed age. He never about age except for that one about her being too old. He find under aged girls, but at the to you made a time never told me to go same time never said make sure they are over 18. It was never discussed. Q Okay. All right. I'm going to ask you to step outside for a minute and I will find out OFFICIAL Dfl inPTTMO erOVTOE, LLC EFTA00085405
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 32 if the grand jury has questions. Thank you very much. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) I have to remind you that you are still under oath. There were just two follow-up questions. The first one is something that I think you spoke about earlier, but who first asked you to find other girls? A Who first asked me to first other girls? Q Yes. A That would be Epstein. Okay. So Jeffrey asked you himself, Jeffrey Epstein himself asked you? A Yes. okay. And then the other question was: Are you currently in contact with anyone who works for Mr. Epstein or himself? A I don't talk to any of the females that I once brought over there. I haven't been in contact with Epstein for years. He tried contacting me a few times. I haven't contacted him back. I refuse OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085406
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 33 to talk to him. I refuse to talk to any of the girls that were involved. However, I did live with one of the girls in Orlando for a couple months to a year. I haven't spoken to her in over a year either. Q Okay. So after -- and just so the grand jury has a sense here, we are talking about the 2004 to 2005 period is when you were bringing girls over? A That's correct. Q So since then -- A I don't -- to be honest with you, think it was more 2003, 2004. Q Okay. A My junior senior year. Q Okay. But anyhow it was a couple of years ago? A Several years ago. Q OkaY. Is there any follow up on either of those points? Yes, ma'am. A GRAND JUROR: Was it Jeffrey Epstein Qimself trying to contact you or THE WITNESS: I don't know if it was him directly. I know that his number showed up OFFICIAL ornnomtnr eroUTrE, LLC EFTA00085407
34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 on my house phone. I'm assuming because was there, I'm assuming that she is the one that has been trying to contact me in the past years. Epstein never talked directly me on the phone. to Any other follow up? Okay. Thank you, ma'am. Thank you for coming. (Witness was excused.) CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER Public, do Reporter and Notary , Certified Court certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. OFFICIAL trflfl,PTM1 °°°"Trr, LLC EFTA00085408
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WEST PALM BEACH DIVISION COPY IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR SPECIAL AGENT APPEARANCES: Grand Jury #07-103 (WPB) West Palm Beach, Florida Tuesday, April 29, 2008 TESTIMONY OF ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY FOREPERSON OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085409
2 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of SPECIAL AGENT was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, Federal Building, U.S. Courthouse, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on Tuesday, April 29, 2008. Reporter and Certified Court Notary Public, Official Reporting Service, Avenue, Suite 302N, Fort Lauderdale, State of Florida, LLC, 524 South Andrews Florida, 33301 , was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. OFFICIAT Tfl""^"""T"^ ^n^nrnE, LLC EFTA00085410
a 1 2 3 (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) THE FOREPERSON: You do solemnly swear that the testimony you give will be the 4 truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the 5 truth, so help you God? 6 THE WITNESS: I do. 7 THE FOREPERSON: Thank you. Please be 8 seated. 9 EXAMINATION 10 BY 1 1 Q Special Agent , do you have a 12 chart bearing the photographs of the victims with 13 their new and old Jane Doe Numbers? 14 A Yes, I do. 15 : Shall we pass it out to 16 the grand jury, please. 17 BY 18 Q We are going to start today with Jane 19 Doe Number 14. The Overt Acts related to Jane Doe 20 Number 14 begin on Page 22 of the proposed 21 indictment. 22 Special Agent , can you 23 remind the grand jury who is Jane Doe Number 14? 24 A Jane Doe Number 14 is a white female 25 named She was born in She OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085411
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 attende High School. Q And have you testified about her previously? A Yes, I have. Q Is there anything that you want to clarify or add regarding your earlier testimony? A No. Q Can you remind the grand jury of the period of time that Jane Doe Number 14 had contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A She went to Mr. Epstein's house during November 2004 through March 2005. Q And how old was she during that time frame? A Seventeen. Q Please summarize the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number 14 was involved with, with Jeffrey Epstein. A Jane Doe Number 14 was asked by Mr. Epstein to pinch and rub his nipples. Mr. Epstein masturbated in Jane Doe Number 14's presence. Jane Doe Number 14 had a massager slash vibrator used on by Mr. Epstein. Mr. Epstein Jane Doe Number 14's He performed oral sex on OFFICIAL RP:PORTING SRRV CE, LLC EFTA00085412
5 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Jane Doe Number 14. He also had sexual intercourse with Jane Doe Number 14. Q And can you just tell us briefly what Jeffrey Epstein's knowledge was of Jane Doe Number 14's age? A Jane Doe Number 14, during the times that she provided the massages, on one of those occasions she was asked her age and she told him that she was 18. On a later visit, they were talking about Jane Doe Number 14's upcoming birthday and Mr. Epstein inquired about her 18th birthday, and Jane Doe Number 14 acknowledged that that would be her upcoming birthday. Epstein actually called her on that and said: So you are not really 18 yet? And they both kind of laughed about it. And so he knew that Jane Doe Number 14 was having her upcoming birthday. Q Does your prior testimony and your testimony today cover the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 112 through 131? A Yes. A review of the phone calls indicate telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 14 as well as and OFFICIAL RFPORTTNR qFPVICE, LLC EFTA00085413
6 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Jane Doe Number 14. A review of the carbon copy message pads recovered during the execution of the state search warrant revealed messages between Jane Doe Number 14 and Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach residence. I have one of those here and I will read it for the record, which is specifically Overt Act 126. It's a message for on January 26, 2005, at 1 :30 p.m. It's from It says, you know the number, in parentheses. And then it says, she is confirming for 5:30 p.m. And it was taken by one of Mr. Epstein's house managers. We also have the statement of Jane Doe Number 14, which as I summarized before the discussion of the age, and we also have supporting documentation to corroborate the statement such as petty cash receipts from one of the house managers where he is documented paying Jane Doe Number 14, as well as a Western Union transaction that occurred at Christmas where Mr. Epstein provided Jane Doe Number 14 with $200 as a Christmas present. Q All right. Referring to Count Eight, which is -- is the testimony that you summarized OFFICIAL REPORTTNa SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085414
7 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and procured Jane Doe Number 14 to engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18? A Yes. Q And referring to Count 19 is the evidence you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and used a facility in interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number 14 to engage in prostitution and in a sexual activity for which a person can be charged with an offense? A Yes. Q How many telephone calls have you been able to document between John Doe Number 14 and A We have approximately 70 phone calls between and Jane Doe Number 14. Q And what about with A Approximately seven. Q And because this is a little bit different than some of the other charges in addition to alleging procurement to engage in prostitution as well as an allegation of procuring OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085415
8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 to engage in sexual activity for which a person can be charged with a criminal offense, what is that particular sexual activity that she and Jeffrey Epstein engaged in that also violates Florida state law? A Sexual intercourse. Q Now if you could turn to Jane Doe Number 15. Can you tell the grand jury who she is? A Jane Doe Number 15 is a white female named She was born She attended igh School. I have testified about her previously. Q Is there anything that you want to clarify or add regarding your previous testimony? A No. Q Please remind the grand jury during what period did Jane Doe Number 15 have contact with Jeffrey Epstein. A We have telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 15 starting on December of 2004 through October of 2005. We believe through statements that she went to Jeffrey Epstein's residence earlier than that. She stopped for a time period and then returned and that's when we have the phone calls OFFICIAL RFPnRTTNC: qFRVirF, LLC EFTA00085416
9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 starting up. Q Now during this period of the phone calls, how old was Jane Doe Number 15? A She was 17. Q All right. Up until her birthday, correct? A Yes. Q Did the phone contact continue after she turned 18? A Yes. As I mentioned, the phone calls continued to October of 2005 and she turned 18 in June. Q Please summarize the sexual activity that she was involved with, with Jeffrey Epstein. A Epstein requested Jane Doe Number 15 to pinch his nipples. Mr. Epstein would fondle and pinch Jane Doe Number 15's nipples. Mr. Epstein also engaged in masturbation in front of Jane Doe Number 15. Mr. Epstein used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number 15's Epstein also 15's and Mr. Jane Doe Number Q Does your prior testimony and your testimony here today cover the evidence and the OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085417
10 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 allegations in Overt Acts 132 to 148 and Overt Act 175? A Yes. A review of the phone records indicate telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 15 as well as and Jane Doe Number 15. We also have the review of the carbon copy message pads that were recovered in the state search warrant, in the execution of the state search warrant, which revealed the message from to Epstein, and I have that. Specifically Overt Act 175, and it's for Jeffrey Epstein. The date is October 1 , 2005, at 9:50 a.m. The message is from and the message reads, 7onfirmed at 11 :00 a.m. and at 4 p.m. And is it signed by one of Mr. Epstein's house managers. We also have reviewed the evidence which was obtained in a trash pull that was conducted at Mr. Epstein's residence by the Palm Beach Police Department in April of 2005 where a piece of paper was recovered in the trash, which is Overt Act 147. It reads, 10:30, Friday around 2:00. And then there's a 3 on OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085418
1 1 1 2 3 4 S 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 underneath it on Mr. Epstein's stationery. We have the statements from Jane Doe Number 15 as well as other witnesses. Q Now with respect to Mr. Epstein's knowledge of Jane Doe Number 15's age, have you testified about that previously? A Yes, I have. Q And let me hand you two transcripts. One is of your testimony on March 20, 2007, and the second is May 15, 2007. If you would just read those for the grand jury. A The first one from Tuesday, March 20, 2007, on page 17, starting on line 4. (Thereupon, the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT taken on Tuesday, March 20, 2007, before Grand Jury 07-103 was read into the record as follows:) Question. Okay. And what did she say were some of the topics of discussion? Answer. Mr. Epstein asked her questions about herself, asked her if she was a soccer player or that -- Jeffrey knew that she was a soccer player and asked questions about her college, about where she was going to school. is currently going to Lynn OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085419
12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 University, and she had advised Mr. Epstein that she would be attending college at Lynn University. Question: So that was a -- but that was her future plan? Answer. Yes. Question. So in other words, did Mr. Epstein know the time? Answer. Beach Police asked her age and that she was in high school at Yes, he did. And the Palm if Jeffrey knew told the Palm Beach Police Department, he didn't care what my age was. (Thereupon, the reading of the transcript concluded.) THE WITNESS: Testimony from Tuesday, May 15, 2007, page 4, line 19. (Thereupon, the testimony of taken on Tuesday, May 15, 2007, before Grand Jury 07-103 was read into th' record as follows:) Question. And just briefly can you remind the grand jury, did Mr. Epstein her age? ever tell OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085420
13 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Answer. No, they did not ever discuss -- she did not tell him how old she was, but she did tell him where she planned on going to school and that she was in soccer. She stated that when it came to her age that Mr. Epstein didn't care As I mentioned earlier, and (Thereupon, the reading of the transcript was interrupted.) THE WITNESS: Which is old Jane Doe Number Four, and that is not in here. Starting at line 24 (Thereupon, the reading of the transcript continued.) Answer. She stated that when it came to her age that Mr. Epstein mentioned earlier, very good friends and ■ about and Mr. Epstein would ask when didn't care. As I were would talk about questions was providing massages, and as we will talk about when we talk about Jane Doe Number Four, which is she told Mr. Epstein that she was a junior in high school and that and OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085421
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 her were in the same classes together and that they were very good friends. And told us that at one point had come to her because she had slipped about prom, and she was worried because Epstein was supposed to think she was 18 and she had talked about the prom, an said she never heard anything else about it and they never brought it up. Question. Because according to Mr. Epstein didn't care really how old the girls were? Answer. Exactly. Question. And she never mentioned he asked her for her age or asked for any form of identification to show whether she was or was not over 18? Answer. No. (Thereupon, the reading of the transcript concluded.) Q Referring to Count Number Nine is the evidence you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and procured Jane Doe Number 15 to engage OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085422
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under Q And if I could refer you to Count 20. Is the evidence you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number 15 to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q How many telephone calls have you been able to document between Jane Doe Number 15 and A We have over 125 phone calls between and Jane Doe Number 15. Q And how many telephone calls between Jane Doe Number 15 and Ross? A Twenty-five approximately. Q Now if we could turn to Jane Doe Number 16 and could you remind the grand jury who Jane Doe Number 16 is? A Jane Doe Number 16 is a white female named She was born in and she attended High School. Q Have you testified about her before? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085423
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q Is there anything that you want to clarify or add regarding your earlier testimony? A No. Q Please remind the grand jury of the period of time during which Jane Doe Number 16 was involved with, with Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number 16, we have telephonic phone calls beginning February of 2005 through October of 2005. Q And how old was Jane Doe Number 16 during that period? A She was 17. Q Please summarize the sexual activity that Jane Doe Number 16 was involved with, with Jeffrey A Epstein. Jane Doe Number 16, Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number 16. Mr. Epstein used a massager slash vibrator on Jane Doe Number 16's Mr. Epstein had Jane Doe Number 16 watch as Epstein engaged in , which Mr. and and buttocks in front sexual activity with Epstein also had r ondle each other breasts from Mr. Epstein. OFFICIAL ornnomTmn erour E, LLC EFTA00085424
17 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein had sexual intercourse with Jane Doe Number 16 for which Mr. Epstein offered and paid Jane Doe Number 16 more money which was 300 to $350. Q Did Jane Doe Number 16 recruit anyone to go to Jeffrey Epstein's home? A She did. Jane Doe Number 16 took a white female by the name of who was over the age of 18. She also brought Jane Doe Number 17. Q And before we get to that, can you remind the grand jury who recruited Jane Doe Number 16 to go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A Jane Doe Number 16 -- if you can hold on one second -- was recruited by Jane Doe Number Nine. Q And the last time we were here, you testified about Jane Doe Number Nine? A Yes, I did. Q And you testified Overt Act Number 90, which was a payment that Jeffrey Epstein made to Jane Doe Number Nine for recruiting Jane Doe Number 16 to his home? A Yes. Q Now you mentioned that Jane Doe Number OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085425
18 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 16 also recruited someone who you referred to as Jane Doe Number 17. Can you tell the grand jury who that is? A Jane the name of she attended Q Have A No. Q Has she been interviewed? A Yes. Q During what period of time did Jane Doe Number 17 have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number 17 began her contact in February of 2005 and went to Mr. Epstein's house on two occasions. Q How old was she during that time frame? A Sixteen. Q And how did she meet Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number 16 brought Jane Doe Number 17 to Mr. Epstein's residence. They went, as I mentioned earlier, only twice did Jane Doe Number 17 go. Jane Doe Number 16 went much more than that. Doe Number 17 is a white female by She was born in and High School. you testified about her previously? But Jane Doe Number 17 was taken there twice by Jane Doe Number 16. Jane Doe Number 16 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085426
19 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 and Jane Doe Number 17 performed a massage together wearing only their underwear. After a while during the massage, Mr. Epstein requested that Jane Doe Number 16 wait downstairs. Jane Doe Number 16 got dressed and left. Jane Doe Number 17 continued the massage. Mr. Epstein began to masturbate. Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number 17, $200. Jane Doe Number 17 stated that Jane Doe Number 16 had also received money for that day. Jane Doe Number 17 went back to Mr. Epstein's house approximately a month later. This time Mr. Epstein requested that Jane Doe Number 17 perform the massage completely nude. He used a vibrator on Jane Doe Number 17's vagina and masturbated until he ejaculated and then the massage was over. Q How much was Jane Doe Number 17 paid? A She was paid $200. Q And you mentioned that she was 16 during the time of these massages? A Yes. Q Did Jane Doe Number 17 recruit anyone to go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A No. OFFICIAL PrDnoTTvr Q"/"ICE, LLC EFTA00085427
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q Does your prior testimony and the testimony here today cover the evidence supporting the allegations in Overt Acts 90 and 149 through 181? A Yes. A review of the phone records indicate telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 16, which also includes multiple text messages from to Jane Doe Number 16. and Jane Doe Number 16 and also telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 16. Regarding Jane Doe Number 17, we have telephonic contact between and Jane Doe Number 16 and Jeffrey Epstein's residence and Jane Doe Number 16. Followed by telephonic contact between Jane Doe Number 16 and Jane Doe Number 17. Q Let me interrupt you just a second, Special Agent So in other words, because Jane Doe Number 16 is the person who brought Jane Doe Number 17 those two times where the records show contact from someone from Epstein's group to Jane Doe Number 16 immediately followed by a phone call to Jane Doe Number 17? A Yes. OFFICIAL PrPORTINC SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085428
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 21 Q Okay. Sorry. Please continue. A We also have carbon copy messages. message pad. It was recovered during the execution of a state search warrant which indicates contact between Jane Doe Number 16 and Epstein's employee. Specifically Overt Act 175 and Overt Act 178, and I will get those and read those. Overt Act 175 is what I read previously regarding Jane Doe Number 15, but I will read it again. It is for Jeffrey Epstein, dated October 1st, 2005, at 9:50 a.m. The message is from . The message says, confirmed at 1 1 a.m. and 4 p.m. It's signed by a house manager of Mr. Epstein's. Overt Act 178 is a message for Jeffrey Epstein, dated 10-2-2005. The time is 9:05 p.m. I'm sorry. Strike that. It's a message for Jeffrey Epstein, dated October 3rd, 2005, at 4:10 p.m. The message is for and the message is, will be a half hour late. It's signed by Mr. Epstein's house manager. Q Is it for or it's from OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085429
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 22 A It is taken by Mr. Epstein's house manager, . The "For" line is addressed to Jeffrey Epstein and then the "M" line says called and left that message for Jeffrey Epstein? A Calling Q Right. Referring to Count Ten, does the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and procured Jane Doe Number 16 to engage in commercial sex acts knowing that she was under 18? A Yes. The only other thing I'd like to say is that we did obtain through the trash pull that the Palm Beach Police Department conducted in April of 2005, there was a computer printout of messages for Mr. Epstein which showed us a message from which read, can work tomorrow at 4 p.m. This is listed as Overt Act 162, and then we also have the statements of both Jane Doe Numbers 16 and 17. Q Can you remind the grand jury about how Jeffrey Epstein knew Jane Doe Number 16's age and whether he did anything in recognition of her age? A Jane Doe Number 16 told Jeffrey Epstein OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085430
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 23 she was 17, and Mr. Epstein also provided Jane Doe Number 16 with Victoria Secret lingerie for her upcoming 18th birthday. Q All right. And if we could refer to Count 21 . Is the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein, , and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number 16 to engage in prostitution and in sexual activity for which a person can be charged with an offense? Q And can you remind the grand jury what the sexual activity is that Mr. Epstein could be charged with under the state law? A Sexual intercourse. Q All right. And how many telephone calls have you been able to document between Jane Doe Number 16 and A We have 50 -- over 50 calls with and Jane Doe Number 16. We have approximately 25 calls with and Jane Doe Number 16. We have one call between and Jane Doe Number 16. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085431
24 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And with respect to there is also the actual sexual activity that she engaged in with Jane Doe Number 16? A Yes. Q Okay. And referring to Count Number 22, is the evidence that you just summarized the basis for the allegation that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility of interstate commerce to persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number 17 to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q Now if we could turn to Jane Doe Number Seven. A GRAND JUROR: Jane Doe Number? MS. VILLAFANA: Seven. BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q Who is Jane Doe Number Seven? A Jane Doe Number Seven is a white female by the name of She was born in She attended High School. Q Have you testified about her before? A No. Q All right. So has she been interviewed? A Yes. OFFICIAL RFPORTINf qpRVICE, LLC EFTA00085432
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And during what period of time did Jane Doe Number Seven have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? During the months of June and July of Q How old was she at that time? A Sixteen. Q How did she meet Jeffrey Epstein? A Jane Doe Number Seven was taken to Mr. Epstein's residence by a white female named and we have talked about in my previous testimony. at that time was 15 years old. and Jane Doe Number Seven arrived at Mr. Epstein's residence for the first time by taxi. The first time Jane Doe Number Seven was taken there, Epstein, and Jane Doe Number Seven went upstairs. Mr. Epstein took them from the kitchen upstairs to his master bedroom to where the bathroom was where the massages were performed. Both and Jane Doe Number Seven began massaging Mr. Epstein. At Mr. Epstein's direction, left the room after some time. Jane Doe Number Seven continued the massage. Jane Doe Number Seven was OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC 25 EFTA00085433
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 wearing only her underwear at this time. The massage turned sexual where at this point Mr. Epstein was touching Jane Doe Number Seven's )ut on the outside of her underwear. Mr. Epstein masturbated and then the massage was over. Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number Seven, $200, and Mr. Epstein told Jane Doe Number Seven that if she told anybody what had occurred that bad things could happen to her. Jane Doe Number Seven went to Mr. Epstein's house approximately two or three more times after that. Q And how was contact made with Jane Doe Number Seven? A would telephone Jane Doe Number Seven. Q To set up appointments? A Yes. Q And can you summarize the sexual activity that she was involved in with Jeffrey Epstein? A Mr. Epstein instructed Jane Doe Number Seven to rub his chest and nipples. Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of Jane Doe Number Seven. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC 26 EFTA00085434
27 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Mr. Epstein told Jane Doe Number Seven to remove her bra and panties on one of the subsequent visits, and at that point, Mr. Epstein stroked Jane Doe Number Seven's vagina. Q Did Jane Doe Number Seven recruit anyone to go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A Yes, she did. The name of the girl is and we have not fully identified her nor have we interviewed her. Q All right. Did recruit anyone else to go to Jeffrey Epstein's house? A Yes. Q And how do we refer to that person or the person wh n ndictment that was recruited by A As Jane Doe Number Eight. Q And just for the grand jury's purpose, when the initials are used in that indictment, who does that refer to? A Q Okay. Now turn to Jane Doe Number Eight. Can you tell the grand jury who she is? A Jane Doe Number Eight is a white female by the name of . She was born in She attended Palm Beach Central High OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085435
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 28 School. I have not previously testified about Q During what period of time did she have contact with Jeffrey Epstein? A July 2004 through October of 2004. Q And how old was she during that time? A Seventeen. Q How did she meet Jeffrey Epstein? A Through . Jane Doe Number Eight was taken to Mr. Epstein's residence by who again was still 15 years old at the time. They traveled to Mr. Epstein's residence by taxi. During the massage, Jane Doe Number Eight was wearing a sports bra, a skirt, and thong underwear. The massage turned sexual. Mr. Epstein masturbated until he ejaculated. Prior to that, Mr. Epstein moved Jane Doe Number Eight's underwear to the side and rubbed her vagina. Approximately one week later, telephoned Jane Doe Number Eight and invited her to return. told Jane Doe Number Eight that Mr. Epstein would pay her if she brought a friend. Q How much was Jane Doe Number Eight paid? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085436
29 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 ) A Mr. Epstein paid Jane Doe Number Eight two or $300. She could not recall exactly. Tatum was also paid $200 for bringing Jane Doe Number Eight, and Tatum also told Jane Doe Number Eight that if she brought someone she would be paid $200. Q Now you mentioned that there was telephone contact directly with Jane Doe Number Eight after that first visit. Approximately how many times did Jane Doe Number Eight go to Mr. Epstein's house? A Q was there Just that time. And in addition to stroking her any other specific sexual activity that she was involved with, with Mr. Epstein? A As I think I mentioned, he masturbated in the presence of Jane Doe Number Eight. Mr. Epstein fondled Jane Doe Number Eight's bottom and pulled Jane Doe Number Eight's underwear to the side and stroked her at that time. Q Now you said that Jeffrey Epstein told Jane Doe Number Eight that she would get paid if she brought other people. Did she bring anyone else? A No. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085437
30 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And is your testimony today the basis for the allegations in Overt Acts 46 through 65? A Yes. The only other thing I'd like to mention is that there are approximately nine calls between and Jane Doe Number Eight, and Jane Doe Number Eight stated that would continue to call her to try to get her to come. Q How did that phone contact end? A I would like to refer to my notes. Q Sure. A Jane Doe Number Eight told that she had moved out of the state to get to stop calling and that's how the phone contact ended. Q And could you just review Overt Act Number 59, which refers to a written telephone message? A Overt Act 59 refers to the message pads that were recovered during the execution of the state search warrant. Overt Act 59 is a message that is written out for Mr. Epstein, dated July 17, 2004, at 6:55. It looks like there is a mark through a.m. So I'm not sure if it's 6:55 a.m. I believe OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085438
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 that would be 6:55 p.m, and they are marking a.m. out, but just for the record, it shows a mark through a.m. It says, There's a phone number there, The message is in a quote and it says, me and can come tomorrow any time or alone. And one of Mr. Epstein's employees had signed the bottom. Q And is a number that you have identified with A Yes, it is. Q If I can refer you to Counts 13 and 14. Is your testimony here today the basis for the allegation in Count 13 that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility or means of interstate commerce, that is, a telephone, to knowingly persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Seven to engage in prostitution? A Yes. Q And is it also the basis for the allegation in Count 14 that Jeffrey Epstein and used a facility or means of interstate commerce, that is, a telephone to knowingly persuade, induce, and entice Jane Doe Number Eight to engage in prostitution? OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085439
32 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A Yes. Q All right. A Would you like the approximate phone calls? Q Yes. A The approximate phone calls for Jane Doe Number Seven between Jane Doe Number Seven and are eight, and the approximate phone calls between and Jane Doe Number Eight is approximately nine. • All right. to cover for today. That is what we planned Hold on. Sorry. All right. I forgot one thing. Q With respect to the girls that you testified about today, 14 through 17, and seven and eight, is there any evidence related to any by any of those girls? Number 16. She has a with Jane Doe And also in regards to their I believe she was housed at the OFFICIAL EPOR-ING SFRV CE, LLC EFTA00085440
33 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 We are still checking on that. Jane Doe Number Seven during her interview she told us that when she went to Mr. Epstein's house, she would take that we are aware of with Jane Doe Number Seven. Q And with respect to Jane Doe Number 16 was she able to tell you when she was in comparison to the time that she was spending with Mr. Epstein? A I know that when we interviewed Jane Doe Number 16, she told us that he was not aware of her problem. So I would like to go back and re-read that interview before I make that comment. Q Okay. But with respect to all of the girls, including the two that you just spoke about have you been able to independently corroborate their statements? A Yes, I have, and specifically with those two girls, Jane Doe Number 16, we have the telephone records. We have the message pads. We have the trash pulls. We have the statements from the other Jane Does. It's much the same with Jane Doe Number Seven through the statements of and other Jane Does, message pads, the telephone phone OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085441
34 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 records. We have been able to corroborate their statements. Q Okay. BY If I could ask you to step outside for a moment and I will find out if the grand jury has any more questions. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) Q Special one of the questions asked by a grand juror was whether any of the girls, any of the Jane Does listed in the indictment have been charged or will be charged either by the Federal Government or the State Attorney's Office for solicitation of prostitution? A No. Q Okay. Then there was also a question about your testimony regarding the threat that was placed on the Jane Doe that if anything happened to her -- or if she said anything something bad would happed to her. Do you have any other evidence related to threats made to any of the Jane Does? OFFICIAL RVP(IRmTNa cwPvtcE, LLC EFTA00085442
35 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 A No. This specific Jane Doe, she was upset. She thought she was going there to model lingerie or perform a massage. When it turned into more than that, she was upset by that. I think she -- I believe she told us she wanted to report it and she was discouraged not only by nut by Mr. Epstein and he stated that to her on one occasion, and I believe I have more. I would have to go and read it if they would like to hear more about some of the other remarks that Mr. Epstein made to her. A GRAND JUROR: I would. THE WITNESS: Jane Doe Number Seven was told by Epstein that she was not to tell anyone what had happened during the massages. He told her that she could not tell anyone what happened at the house or bad things could happen. was very scared and felt nervous. She knew because of Epstein's money, he was powerful. Each time she went, she was reminded not to speak of what happened at the house and that she would be contacted again. OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085443
36 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Stated she wanted to notify the police at what happened at the house. Stated she was scared of what could happen to her and her family if she notified the authorities. This was taken from my 302 as well as the Palm Beach Police report. BY Q Okay. A statement provided by Jane Doe Number Seven. When you referred in your testimony to that is Jane Doe Number Seven? A I'm sorry. Q That's okay. It is just so they know. Special Agent , are you aware of any general Federal child predator law? A A general? General in? Q Well, one of the grand juror asked whether he could be charged with being a child predator. Are you aware of any Federal law that covers that? A No. Q All right. Those were all of the questions for you. If you could step outside. There is a question for her? A GRAND JUROR: Yeah. I don't know if OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085444
37 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 it's for you or for her. I am just curious if he has been incarcerated or if he is still loose? THE WITNESS: He has not been incarcerated. : All right. THE WITNESS: Not in the federal system. BY Q Well, he is not in custody? A No, and he is not in custody in the state system. Yes. A GRAND JUROR: Well, I was wondering if there is a lot of underlying shame involved with, you know, that they felt like if people found out, you know, if he was using that on them too, you know, being in shame? THE WITNESS: Do you want me to answer? Okay. THE WITNESS: I don't think that Mr. Epstein used that approach. I think there has been a lot of shame when we have interviewed the girls as to what occurred, but I don't think Mr. Epstein's approach was to shame the girls. OFFICIAL RPPORTTNr SWPVICE, LLC EFTA00085445
38 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 BY Okay. Thank you. (Witness exits the Grand Jury Room.) (Witness enters the Grand Jury Room.) Q Special Agent we have three more questions. The first is: Do you have any evidence that this conduct is continuing? A No, not at this time, I don't have any evidence. Q I'm sorry? A I don't have any evidence. Q Okay. Do you have -- do you know whether Mr. Epstein or anyone else has been charged by the State of Florida in connection with his activities? A Yes, Mr. Eps.tein has been. Q What has he been charged with? A Solicitation of prostitution with three counts of solicitation of prostitution. Q And in the charges that have been brought against him is there any reference to the fact that these, quote, unquote, prostitutes were under the age of 18? A None whatsoever. OFFICIAL nrIMATMTWffl flnn"-CE, LLC EFTA00085446
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 1 1 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q And the last question was: Why haven't the minors been charged with solicitation of prostitution? Let me break that into two questions. Does the Federal Government prosecute minors as a rule? A Not usually. Q Then with respect to the state, do you know whether or why the minors haven't been charged? A No, I don't know. Q Okay. All right. MS. That's all. Thank you. (Witness was excused.) CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER Certified Court Reporter and Notary Public, do certify that the transcript is a true and correct transcription of my stenotype notes of the testimony of SPECIAL AGENT 39 , taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida. Certified Court Reporter OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE, LLC EFTA00085447
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 2 The sworn testimony of was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. Court Reporter, was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. EFTA00085449
Page 3 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 (The witness entered the grand jury room.) having been duly sworn by the grand jury foreperson, was examined and testified on her oath as follows: EXAMINATION BY MS. VILLAFANA: Q Could you start by reminding us of your name and where you're employed. A I work for the FBI here in West Palm Beach on their Q And you are one of the case agents in Operation Leap Year? A Yes, I am. Q Did you recently participate in an interview of A Yes. Q Can you tell us date of birth? A was born o Q And you spoke with her recently? A Yes, we did. Q So she was 18 at the time of the interview? A Yes, I believe she was. Q Who is 1 ? A was identified by the Palm Beach db. EFTA00085450
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 4 Police Department as one of the girls who had frequented Mr. Epstein's house. Q How exactly did the Palm Beach Police Department determine that she was one of those girls? A When they did their search warrant at Mr. Epstein's residence, some message pads were obtained at his residence, and they had several calls from a girl named and phone numbers. So they were able to track back those messages back to Q Did the Palm Beach Police Department try to interview Miss A They did. Q Did she agree to speak with them? A No. She stated that she loved Jeffrey Epstein, and that she would not say anything positive or negative about what occurred. Q After the FBI became involved in this investigation, did you try to interview Miss A We did, as well, with no such luck, as well. Q How long ago was it that you first made contact with Miss A It was back in November of '06. Q Did you try to serve her with a subpoena issued on behalf of this grand jury? A Yes, we did. EFTA00085451
1 2 3 Page Q What happened? A She refused service of the grand jury subpoena. But she was notified of when her appearance was expected 4 here, and a subpoena was left with her. 5 6 Q A After that, did she obtain an attorney? Yes, she did. 7 Q Who was that? A He's a well-known defense 9 attorney here in West Palm Beach. 10 Q Who paid for that attorney? 11 A Mr. Epstein is paying for attorney. 12 Q Now once Miss "secured the attorney, did 13 she agree to be interviewed? 14 A Yes, she did, after she was granted 6001 15 immunity. She requested immunity. 16 Q Did the justice department authorize that grant 17 of immunity? 18 A Yes, they did. 19 After that, did she agree to be interviewed? 20 A Yeah. It was only after she was given that 21 immunity that she would talk with us. 22 When did the interview take place? 23 A It took place at the end of April of this year, 24 so just a few weeks ago. 25 Q Who was present at that interview? 5 EFTA00085452
Page 6 1 A Myself; my partner, agent ; the AUSA, 2 ; her attorney, Jim Eisenberg, and his 3 investigator; as well as M 4 Q What did Miss tell you about Jeffrey 5 Epstein? 6 A She stated that she had met an individual by the 7 name of at a party who had asked her if she 8 wanted to make a few bucks by giving a man a massage. She 9 was told that Mr. Epstein preferred them to be topless, 10 and she agreed to go to his house to give him a massage. 11 Q How old did Miss tell you she was at that 12 time? 13 A She stated she was 16 when she first started 14 giving Mr. Epstein massages. 15 Q Based upon your review of the evidence, is that 16 correct? 17 A No. We have phone records where 18 (phonetic), Mr. Epstein's assistant, is contacting 19 on her cell phone, or using her cell phone to call 20 cell phone starting in April of 2004, which makes 21 15. 22 Q So she said that she was 16, but your evidence 23 shows that she was 15, and she said that she was told she 24 could make a few bucks giving a topless massage? 25 A Yes. EFTA00085453
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q what else did Miss tell you? Page 7 A That she went to Mr. Epstein's residence, that took her there the first time, that when she went upstairs she was paid $200 when she first got there by Sara Kellin. Then she goes upstairs, and Mr. Epstein comes in, he disrobes, puts on a towel, lays down on the massage table and she begins to massage him. She tells Epstein that she heard he likes topless massages, and he told her that he did. And she said, •Who wouldn't?• And she ended up taking off her top during the first massage. But is clear that Mr. Epstein did not at any point touch her during the massage. Q But does she admit that he touched himself? A Yes. On the second massage, Mr. Epstein asked her to leave her phone number with Her phone number was left there. On the second massage, she returned the very next day and gave him another massage. This time, Mr. Epstein masturbated in front of her. Q Did Miss admit that he masturbated on more than one occasion in her presence? A Yes, masturbated. And I think her term was that he •released,' meaning that he ejaculated. Q How long of a period of time did Miss tell you that she performed massages? A She wasn't able to give us a number of massages, EFTA00085454
1 2 giving him massages for a year. 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 8 but just said that it was a lot, and that she had been Q You mentioned to the grand jury that Miss said that Mr. Epstein never touched her, correct? A Yes. Q And she was very adamant about that? A Yes, she was. Q Were there other things that she was adamant about in her interview with you? A Well, she talked about what she would tell the girls that -- and that she told Mr. Epstein that she was 18. I'm sorry, I take that back. She was told to say that she was 18, and she told us that she had a fake I.D. showing that she was 18. So she passed that information along to the other girls when she brought -- eventually she brought other girls to perform massages, and that was one of the things that she told -- she told us first that she brought 18- to 20-year old girls. And then she stated that if the girls lied, and they were underage, she told them that they needed to tell Epstein that they were 18. Q Have you been able to identify some of the girls that Miss brought to Mr. Epstein's home? A Yes. Q Were any of those girls over 18? EFTA00085455
1 2 3 Page 9 A No, not that we found so far. Q Have any of the girls told investigators about what Mr. Epstein knew about their ages? 4 A I'm sorry, say that again. 5 Q Have any of the girls who came through 6 about what Mr. Epstein knew about been interviewed 7 their ages? 8 A We did interview them regarding that, and I'm 9 not sure if he asked them. They were all told to say they 10 were 18, but not on every occasion would Mr. Epstein 11 inquire about their age. 12 Q Do you want to check your records on that? 13 A Yes, could I do that? 14 Q YeS, please do. 15 A I can tell you that one of the girls that she 16 brought -- this girl told Mr. Epstein that she was in high 17 school, and actually told him her true age, which was 18 under 18. 19 Q So what told you about, that wasn't 20 really the case? 21 A No, that wasn't. Sorry. 22 Q That's all right, I just wanted to make sure 23 it's clear. 24 So Miss told you that she had been told 25 to say she was 18, and she also told you that she had a EFTA00085456
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 10 fake I.D.? A Yes. Q Did she ever say that Mr. Epstein either asked for her age or asked to see her I.D.? A No, the topic never came up. Q Did you also ask her about how appointments were made? A that Yes. She was very clear in the fact that would call her to arrange the appointments, but would call her once Jeffrey was in town. Q So she was adamant that the calls only happened when she was already here? A Yes. • Were you made aware that Epstein's counsel was informed that he was being investigated for traveling to engage in prostitution, which means that the appointments would have been made before the traveling? A Yes. Q Was there anything else, besides the issue of age and the issue of when the appointments were made, that sounded A about which girls he would like Once coached or that she was especially adamant about? No, I wouldn't say coached. I mean, we talked the preferences that Jeffrey discussed, as far as o bring. tarted giving massages to Epstein, EFTA00085457
1 2 3 4 5 Page 11 told us that he liked different faces, so he would to bring other girls. We asked her if he ever preferences of what he preferred, and her was that Epstein liked girls like her, which is blond and attractive. ask her gave any response thin and 6 Q And how old was she at the time? 7 A She was 15. 8 Q So thin, blonde, attractive and -- 9 A Young, girls like her. I guess we asked if she 10 ever made a mistake, or ever brought somebody that Mr. 11 Epstein didn't take to. She said that she had screwed up 12 and that she had brought a black girl to Mr. Epstein, and 13 that Epstein was not interested in black girls. But he 14 did pay her, and said that he wasn't a racist. He paid 15 her the $200 for her time, but did not want her to perform 16 a massage for him. 17 Q And he didn't allow that girl to perform a 18 massage? 19 A No. 20 Q Was there anything else that Miss talked 21 about in the interview that you want to share with the 22 grand jury? 23 A I did ask her at the end of the interview if she 24 was in love with Mr. Epstein. She looked into the camera 25 and said that she loved him like a friend. But then she EFTA00085458
1 1 2 3 4 Page 12 kind of looked into the camera and gave a wink and a smile and said, "But with your money, I'd marry you any time, Jeffrey." Q Did she also say that she considered him to be 5 an "awesome guy"? 6 A Several times she referred to him as an "awesome 7 guy". She said that the girls begged her to come and that 8 the girls didn't have a complaint, and the girls would 9 share with her everything that happened after the massage, 10 and that Jeffrey never touched any of the girls. But as I 11 informed you, we did interview some of the girls that she 12 took, and he has touched them. 13 Q In preparation for your testimony today, did you 14 also speak with someone who is considered to be an expert 15 in these cases? 16 A Yes. 17 Q And what is that person's name? 18 A 19 Q Has Mr. been qualified to testify as an 20 expert in federal and state courts in cases that involve 21 what he calls "compliant victims"? 22 A Yes. 23 Q What does he mean by the term "compliant 24 victims"? 25 A A compliant victim is when a victim is not —...nonesmomma. EFTA00085459
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 13 necessarily forced into the conduct that the offender wants them to engage into, that they actually consent to that kind of activity. Q So that would include minors who are subjected to sexual activity but weren't necessarily kidnapped or forced at gunpoint, or something like that? A Exactly. • Did he discuss with you the difficulties that exist when you interview those types of victims? A Yes. He stated that a compliant victim is often times embarrassed that they went along with the behavior. They are also likely to deny the behavior, especially when being interviewed by investigators, that they'll deny it or they'll minimize it. Sometimes it takes two, three or multiple interviews to get compliant victims to either trust their interviewer or realize that their interviewer is not going to be judgemental. Q In this case, have you found that to be the case with some of the interviews? A Yes, I have. Q In addition to being embarrassed, sometimes these victims feel guilty about the fact that they were involved in this type of activity? A Oh, yes. Q Does Mr. also have expertise in sexual EFTA00085460
Page 14 1 preference of offenders? 2 A Yes, he does. 3 Q Did he explain why an offender would select the 4 types of victims that are involved in this case, girls 5 between 14 and 17-years-old? 6 A This type of offender, the sexual preference he 7 has is for post-pubescent females that are physically 8 developed but not necessarily mentally matured. The girls 9 ranging in this age are sometimes inexperienced, they are 10 possibly naive, not as worldly. 11 An offender of this type could also maybe not 12 feel sexually adequate or feel competent dealing with his 13 own age group. So knowing that these girls are less 14 experienced, may focus on them as well. 15 Q In addition to their emotional immaturity, did 16 Mr. Lanning talk about whether or not younger girls are 17 easier to manipulate than grown women? 18 A Yes. 19 Q Did he talk to you about 'grooming•? 20 A Yeah. That's what an offender will use with a 21 compliant victim. He told us that grooming is a technique 22 where you gain the cooperation of those victims by 23 focusing on their interests and playing up to those 24 interests. It's a type of seduction, he called it. That 25 was his words for it. And we actually see this in this EFTA00085461
1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 15 case. Q Can you give us an example of some of the types of grooming that Mr. Epstein used? A With one of the girls we're going to talk about today, it's very apparent interviewing her how Epstein groomed her. She only went to three or four massages at this time, that she's admitted to. We feel that due to her phone conversations, the multiple calls, that there may be more there. At this point she has stated to us that she has performed three or four massages for Mr. Epstein. What he did is when she first went there he played upon -- she was very shy, and he would play upon that shyness. He told her that she was pretty. He asked her to remove her clothing, and she would not. So he kind of kidded around with her shyness and complimented her, showed interest in her, talked about her boyfriend and different interests she had. At the end of that interview, because she did not take off her clothes, he tells her that if she's willing to do more, she will make more. He also tells her that he would pay her if she would bring other girls. As the massages increased, you can see that the next time she comes he plays again to that shyness, but he gets a little bit more -- I guess he sees that it's not working. This EFTA00085462
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Page 16 time she does comply and takes off her he asked her to disrobe on the second massage. She takes off her blouse, but she refuses to take off the bra after Mr. Epstein asked her to. So you can see that he tries through showing interest. And then he actually -- when he sees that this isn't working, he takes a more authoritative role with her in the last massage. She said that throughout all of these massages he was very nice, and then at the end he 10 was much more frustrated and irritated. She does get down 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 where every time they went back, he tried to push it one 20 step further and one step further? 21 A Yes. Several of the girls have said that he 22 would always push for more and more. 23 24 compliant child victim cannot legally consent to the 25 to her bra and panties on that one, he's just much more authoritative. So he started with the grooming process, tried to get her interest, tried to use that to get her to comply with removing her clothes. But as often happens, at the end of this, he took over and was much more forceful with his requests. Q Have other girls described that same situation Q Did Mr. Lanning explain why it is that a sexual conduct? EFTA00085463
1 Page 17 1 A Yeah. He stated that -- you know, we talked 2 about how the law protects children, and stated that we 3 hold adults accountable. When it comes to adolescents, 4 they go through normal tendencies that mature offenders 5 may try to take advantage of. But the law is in place for 6 that reason, to protect -- in the federal law, to protect 7 those individuals under the age of 18. 8 Q And that's because of the different maturity 9 levels of the -- 10 A The offender versus the victims, exactly. 11 Q Did you put together the photographs of the 12 defendants in this case? 13 A Yes, I did. 14 Q Are these photographs of the four human 1 5 defendants who are named in the proposed indictment? 16 A Yes. 17 Q With their names underneath them? 18 A Yes. 19 Q Agent, who is in the top left-hand corner? 20 A That's Jeffrey Epstein. 21 Q When was this photograph taken? 22 A Recently. There was an article that just came 23 out regarding Mr. Epstein and his connection, or his 24 personal relationship with Prince Andrew, and that was a 25 picture that was in that article. EFTA00085464
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 a 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 18 Who is in the top right-hand corner? A That's Q Again, this is a relatively recent photograph? A Yes, that's his personal assistant. • And the bottom left-hand corner? A Again, that is one of Mr. Epstein's personal assistants, that's Q Has Miss since gotten married? A Yes, her name now is Q And the bottom right-hand corner? A That is She is, again, a personal assistant to Mr. Epstein. There has been some talk that she is also romantically -- or I should say sexually involved with Mr. Epstein. Q How old are the defendants? A Jeffrey is in his mid-fifties, and the three girls are in their early twenties. Do you have a copy of the draft indictment in front of you? A Yes, I do. You mentioned when we were looking at the photographs that the three females work as personal assistants for Mr. Epstein, is that correct? A Yes. Q So he is their employer? EFTA00085465
Page 19 1 A Yes. 2 Q Are you familiar with the property located at 3 358 El Brillo Way in Palm Beach? 4 A That's Mr. Epstein residence. s Q And he owns that residence? 6 A Yes, he does. 7 Q Are you familiar with Defendant J.E.G.E., Inc.? 8 A Yes. J.E.G.E., Inc. is owned by Jeffrey 9 Epstein. He is the president, the owner, the sole 10 director. It's a business that is solely used for the 11 activities of one of Mr. Epstein's airplanes, which is his 12 Boeing 727. Its tail number is N908JE. 13 Q And you mentioned that he is the president and 14 the sole director. Is he also the sole shareholder? 15 A Yes, he is. 16 Q Are you familiar with Hyperion Air, Inc.? 17 A Yes. Hyperion Air, Inc. is also a business 18 owned by Mr. Epstein. He is also the president, the 19 director and the sole shareholder of that company as well. 20 That company solely does business with his other aircraft, 21 which is a Gulf Stream G-1159B. It bears a tail number 22 N909JE. 23 Q Is that a smaller aircraft than the Boeing? 24 A Yes. 25 Q Just to briefly remind the grand jury about EFTA00085466
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Page 20 where the evidence has been collected in this case, was the start of your investigation information that you received from the Palm Beach Police Department? A Yes, it was. Q And that included evidence seized during a search of Mr. Epstein's home at El Brillo Way? A Yes. Q Also controlled calls that the Palm Beach Police Department placed? A Yes. Q And interviews of girls and other people by the Palm Beach Police Department? A Yes, as well as trash pulls that the Palm Beach Police Department conducted on Mr. Epstein's residence. Q Then when the FBI became involved, the FBI did additional interviews of girls and of recruiters? A Yes. Q They obtained phone records? A Yes, we have. Q And records of payments? A Yes. Q Did this grand jury also subpoena travel records? A Yes. Q Including the flight manifests of the planes EFTA00085467
Page 21 1 owned by Hyperion and J.E.G.E.? 2 A Yes. 3 Q Did you also get corporate documents related to 4 those two planes? A Yes, we have. 6 Q Once you had obtained all of this information, 7 did the FBI analyze the data, specifically the call 8 information and the flight information to put together a 9 pattern of activity by the defendants? 10 A Yes, we did. 11 Q So you have a series of phone calls coming from 12 these three assistants who were on the board, the two 13 girls who have been identified through this investigation? 14 A Yes. is Q when you spoke with those girls, did any of them 16 tell you that they had developed some sort of a personal 17 relationship with the assistants so that they were just 18 chatting over the telephone? 19 A No, not at all. 20 Q All of them said what about the phone calls? 21 A Said that the phone calls were made to set up 22 appointments for Mr. Epstein. 23 Q And the girls referred to it as appointments to 24 work, is that right? 25 A Yes, they were appointments to work. There is EFTA00085468
1 2 3 one exception, probably next that week. Page 22 We're going to talk about her say on one or two occasions called her when she had gone out She did had 4 to California on a trip, I believe. But that is the only 5 time that that was ever mentioned. In fact, we asked, and 6 those phone calls were made for the purpose of setting up 7 appointments for Mr. Epstein. 8 Q Is the investigation continuing? 9 A Yes, it is. 10 11 Q Are you still trying to locate and interview more girls? 12 A Yes. 13 Q Let's turn to the specific evidence reporting 14 the overt acts and offenses relating to Jane Doe's 1 15 through 5. I know that every member of the grand jury has 16 17 a copy of the draft indictment before them, and also a chart. 18 Do you have a copy of that chart as well? 19 A I do. 20 Q Do you have photographs of the five girls that 21 we are going to talk about today? 22 A Yes. 23 Q And these are photographs of the people that we 24 are calling Jane Doe's 1 through 5? 25 A Yes. EFTA00085469
Page 23 1 Q And Jane Doe Number 1, you have previously 2 testified about her? 3 A Yes, I have, that's 4 Q Jane Doe Number 2? 5 A That is 6 Q Jane Doe Number 3? 7 A That is Q Jane Doe Number 4? 9 A Faith P. 10 Q And Jane Doe Number 5? 11 A That is 12 JUROR: The purpose of Epstein's business with 13 his planes, did he transport? 14 THE WITNESS: To travel around. 15 JUROR: So it wasn't like a business of 16 transporting other people? 17 THE WITNESS: He flew other guests, sometimes 18 unaccompanied, sometimes accompanied. 19 JUROR: and do you have 20 any evidence started young, like the rest that they 21 of the recruits? 22 THE WITNESS: We have evidence that they are his 23 personal assistants employed by him, not that it was 24 anything like what we were discussing. 25 JUROR: There was an allegation that was made EFTA00085470
Page 24 1 earlier, back in February, during one of these 2 discussions, about a specific act that was performed. 3 Can I ask about that? We were told back in February 4 that one of the girls when interviewed had alleged 5 rape, and I hadn't heard about that allegation 6 recently. 7 THE WITNESS: That's probably Jane Doe Number 6. 8 We're going to talk about her, that he forcibly put 9 her on the table and her. Yeah, she will 10 be coming up. We're going to do her probably next 11 week. She'll be the first one we'll talk about. 12 13 Q So turning to Jane Doe Number 1, You 14 testified about her earlier before this grand jury, 15 correct? 16 A Yes, I did. 17 Q And she also testified before this grand jury, 18 correct? 19 A Yes. 20 Q Can you remind us of her date of birth? 21 A She was born on 22 Q Could you briefly refresh the grand jury's 23 recollection of how she was recruited? 24 A She was approached on a beach by and 25 They approached her on a beach EFTA00085471
1 2 3 4 Page 25 and asked her if she wanted to perform massages for Mr. Epstein and make some money. Q From the review of the phone records that you have received, were you able to identify a telephone 5 number associated with 6 A Yes. 7 Q In fact, has been interviewed? 8 A Yes, he has. 9 Q And has he admitted to being a recruiter for Mr. 10 Epstein? 11 A Yes, recruiter and driver. 12 Q If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 2, 13 which appears on page five. That states, "On or about 14 March 12, 2004, defendants Jeffrey Epstein and 15 caused Jane Doe Number 1 to travel to 358 Brillo Way of 16 Palm Beach, Florida.• 17 Can you tell us what evidence you have regarding 18 that? 19 A We have reviewed phone records for and 20 Sara that indicate the calls took place, as well as phone 21 records for and and calls that took 22 place on or about those dates. We've also looked at a 23 flight manifest, and were able to show that Mr. Epstein 24 arrived the day before, on the 11th. We also have 25 statement where she describes the sexual activity that EFTA00085472
1 2 3 4 took place. Q On that date, March 12 of 2004, going to Mr. Epstein's house and performing massage? Page 26 described a sexual 5 A Yes, on or about that day. 6 0 On or about that date, what did state 7 about being paid? 8 A She was paid S200. 9 And that relates to Overt Act Number 3? 10 A Yes. 11 12 Q And she stated that Mr. Epstein is the person who gave her that? 13 A She told us that in her statement. 14 Q If you could take a look at Overt Act Number 95, 15 which is on page 17. On or about February 6, 2005, 16 Epstein had Jane Doe Number 1 to make one or more 17 telephone calls to Jane Doe Number 2. 18 First of all, who is Jane Doe Number 2? 19 A That would be ., our youngest victim. 20 21 0 Can you tell us what evidence you have related to that overt act? 22 A We have the girl's statements that calls were 23 made. we also reviewed the phone records that indicated 24 25 that there was belonging to telephonic contact between the numbers EFTA00085473
Page 27 Q And in the statement of both girls, did they describe that is the person who called looking for someone to come and work at Mr. Epstein's house? 6 0 Looking at Overt Act Number 96. On or about February 6, 2005, Epstein caused Jane Doe Number 1 to 8 transport Jane Doe Number 2 to 358 El Brillo way. 9 What is the evidence related to that? 10 A Again, the statements of support 11 that as further evidence, and also reviewing the phone 12 records they indicate that there was telephonic contact 13 between and 14 Q Overt Act Number 97, on or about February 6, 15 2005, Epstein made a payment of $300 to Jane Doe Number 2 16 and a payment of $200 to Jane Doe Number 1. 17 What was the evidence of that? 18 A Both stated in their statements 19 that =was paid $300, and was paid $200 for 20 bringin 21 Q Did explain why she was paid $300? 22 A Yes, she was paid $300 because she performed her 23 massage. Mr. Epstein digitally penetrated and used a 24 massager on 25 Q After this date, after February 6, 2005, was EFTA00085474
Page 28 1 $300 found in-'s purse when it was searched at her 2 school? 3 A Yes, it was, by a school administrator. 4 Q If you could look at Overt Act Number 117, which 5 is on page 19, and that states that on or about March 30, 6 2005, caused one or more calls to be made to a 7 telephone used by Jane Doe Number 1. 8 What evidence do you have related to that? A We reviewed the phone records of and 10 that indicate this. 11 Q And Overt Act 120, on or about March 31, 12 caused one or more calls to be made to a telephone used by 13 Jane Doe Number 1. 14 A Again, we reviewed the phone records that 15 indicated there was telephonic contact between the numbers 16 belonging to 17 Q Then we have Overt Act Number 122, which is also 18 March 31, that Epstein and caused Jane Doe Number 1 19 to make a call to a telephone used by Jane Doe Number 2. 20 What evidence do you have related to that? 21 A We have phone records that we have reviewed 22 belonging to . In this case, we also have a 23 voice mail that was provided to us by the Palm Beach 24 Police Department, a voice mail o' leaving a voice 25 mail message on phone. EFTA00085475
Page 29 1 Q And Overt Act Number 123 refers to April 1st. 2 What evidence do you have related to that? 3 A We have reviewed the phone records of and 4 that indicate telephonic contact was made on this 5 day. We also again have another recorded voice mail by 6 left on phone. 7 Q These later calls, the March-April calls, are 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 those the controlled calls that the Palm Beach Police Department was involved in? A There was controlled calls placed to cell phone and to place of work bye under the supervision of the Palm Beach Police Department. Q And the voice mail message that you referred to calling what information was in that voice mail message? A that she house on 10:30 or as asking for leaving to get back in touch, had set up an appointment for at Epstein's the following day, on that Saturday at around 11:00. Q In addition to the phone records, was there anything that the Palm Beach Police Department found that also confirmed that this appointment actually was made. A As i mentioned earlier, the Palm Beach Police Department was doing trash pulls on Mr. Epstein's residence. In there, there were two messages or notes in EFTA00085476
Page 30 1 there on Epstein's personalized stationary. On it it 2 said, "IIIIIIkith on Saturday at 10:30, and on 3 Saturday wit t 10:30." That's the exact message on 4 the two notes that were found in his trash when they 5 retrieved it on April 8. 6 If I could direct your attention to Count Number 7 Five, which appears on page 26. That is the charge of 8 enticement of a minor, referring to Jane Doe Number 1, and 9 Mr. Epstein and Missi are charged. 10 I know that you talked about the telephone 11 traffic. The calls between and did 12 13 they fall within period? that march 7 through March 11 time 14 A A review of their telephone records do indicate 15 that there were phone calls made during that time. 16 Q And Jane Doe Number 1 actually went to Mr. 17 Epstein's home? 18 19 A Yes, and performed a massage for him in the nude. 20 And she was paid for that? 21 A Yes, she was paid 5200. 22 Q And he masturbated in front of her, correct? 23 A Yes, he did. I would like to include that Sara 24 Kellin took upstairs for that massage, and she also 25 set up the massage table and arranged the oil and lotions EFTA00085477
1 2 3 4 for at that massage. just so it's clear, how old 17. Page 31 to do Q And also, that time? A She was was 5 Are there any questions about 6 either how that evidence was presented or about the 7 charges related to Jane Doe Number 1? Seeing no questions, we'll turn to Jane Doe Number 2. 9 sYl 10 0 You previously mentioned that that was 11 A Yes. 12 Q Let's turn to Count Number Six, which is on page 13 26, which is the enticement of If you could tell 14 the grand jury about the evidence related to that. 15 A date of birth is 16 Q So during this period of February 5, 2005 to the 17 6th, how old was she? 18 A She was 14. 19 Q Can you remind the grand jury about the evidence 20 related to the enticement of 21 A As we stated earlier, we talked about the 22 telephone calls. We have shown that the facility of 23 interstate commerce was used by the telephone calls made 24 by their cell phones. We examined specifically 25 Those calls were made to EFTA00085478
Page 32 1 set up and arrange appointments for Mr. Epstein to have 2 his massages. 3 Pertaining to , during the massage that 4 occurred on those dates, February 6, in particular, I 5 think I have discussed with you before what occurred on 6 that, that he fingered -- and that was his term for 7 it -- and that he used a massager on her. 8 He did masturbate during that massage, and she 9 believed he ejaculated because he wiped off his penis with 10 a towel. She was paid $300, and we know that she was 14 11 at the time. 12 Q If we could turn to Count Number 43, which 13 appears on page 31. Count 43 is one of the travel counts. 14 If you could tell the grand jury, did a trip occur on 15 March 31, 2005? 16 A Yes, we have flight records that indicate a 17 flight occurred on that date. 18 Q What type of plane was used? 19 A I'm going to refer to the J.E.G.E., Incorporated 20 aircraft as just the Boeing 727. If we talk about the 21 Hyperion Air, Incorporated aircraft, which is the Gulf 22 Stream, I will just say the Gulf Stream. So on that date 23 he did travel on his Boeing 727, on 3-31. 24 Q And Mr. Epstein was aboard the plane on that 25 day? EFTA00085479
Page 33 1 A Yes, he was. 2 Q with respect to the March 31st trip, was there 3 evidence of him setting up the appointment with prior 4 to that trip? 5 A We do have telephonic contact between and 6 as well as on the day before 7 and the day of travel. 8 Q And even though that appointment was never kept, 9 that never went to that appointment, you have the 10 notes that were retrieved from the garbage that showed 11 that Mr. Epstein was expecting IIIIII[o show up for that 12 appointment? 13 A Yes. 14 Q Anything else with respect to that particular 15 count? 16 A We also have the controlled calls and the voice 17 mails. 18 Q Turning to Count Number 60, which appears on 19 page 34, that is the attempted enticement of 20 during the period of March 30 to April 1. 21 Again, at that point, was how old? 22 A She was 14. 23 Q And we had talked about the telephone calls that 24 were used. One of the things that is relevant to this 25 particular count was that in addition to the fact that EFTA00085480
Page 34 1 was 14, did you interview a girl who went with 2 when she went to Mr. Epstein's house back in 3 February? 4 A Yes, we did, that would be 5 Q And ! was interviewed? 6 A Yes, she was interviewed by the Palm Beach 7 Police Department. 8 Q What did say about appearance? 9 10 A came. That she was the youngest looking girl that 11 Q When you talked with did talk about 12 girls that Mr. Epstein liked in particular? 13 A Yes. 14 Q And was 3. one of those girls? 15 A Yes, she was one of his preferences. lso 16 17 told us younger, that Mr. Epstein said to her on one occasion, •The the better.• 18 Q And there was never any attempt to get 19 I.D. or to confirm her actual age? 20 A No. 21 Q As we discussed before, ever actually went 22 to that point, right, so that is just an attempt? 23 A Yes. 24 Are there any questions from the 25 grand jury? Seeing no questions, we'll see you next EFTA00085481
Page 35 1 week. Thank you. 2 (Witness excused.) 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER 10 I CERTIFY pages 1 to 35 is a true transcript of 11 my shorthand notes of the testimony of 12 before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm 13 Beach, Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. 14 Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 23rd day 15 of May, 2007. 16 17 18 19 20 Court Reporter 21 22 23 24 25 ONaleffICRIERININ EFTA00085482
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 The sworn testimony of Page 2 was taken before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach Division, West Palm Beach, Palm Beach County, State of Florida, on the 8th day of may, 2007. Court Reporter, was authorized to and did report the sworn testimony. EFTA00085484
1 2 3 4 (The witness having been duly was examined entered the grand jury Page 3 room.) foreperson, as follows: sworn by the grand jury and testified on his oath 5 EXAMINATION 6 BY 7 Q Special state and Agent could you 8 spell your name for the record. 9 A 10 Q By whom are you employed? 11 A I'm employed by the FBI. 12 Q What is your position with the FBI? 13 A I'm a special agent, and have been so for four 14 years. 15 Q Are you one of the agents assigned to the 16 investigation known as Operation Leap Year? 17 A Yes, I am. 18 Q Were subpoenas caused to be issued on behalf of 19 this grand jury in connection with that investigation? 20 A Yes. 21 Q And have documents been received in response to 22 those? 23 A Yes. 24 Q What additional subpoenas have been issued, and 25 what have you received in response? EFTA00085485
Page 4 1 A Additional subpoenas that have been issued 2 include OLY-28 to Colonial Bank, along with OLY-29, which 3 was issued to Palm Beach National Bank & Trust Company. 4 That was served on March 5, 2007. It should be known that 5 Palm Beach National Bank & Trust Company is now operated 6 by Colonial Bank, which we learned in the issuance 7 process. We did receive documents back from Colonial 8 Bank, which covered both subpoenas, on April 25, 2007. 9 Q And those sought information relating to bank 10 accounts belonging to Mr. Epstein? 11 A That is correct. 12 Q What else? 13 A Also served OLY-30 to Western Union Financial 14 Services seeking documents and records related to Jeffrey 15 Epstein. It was served on February 26, 2007, and we 16 received items back from Western Union on two separate 17 dates, and two packages, the first on April 9, 2007, and 18 the second on April 11, 2007. 19 Q And those sought records of wire transfers from 20 Mr. Epstein to girls whom have been identified for this 21 investigation? 22 A Yes. 23 Q What else? 24 A We also served OLY-31 to Western Union Financial 25 Services. It was served on February 26, 2007, and they EFTA00085486
Page 5 1 returned information which we received on May 3, 2007. 2 Q The same type of information? 3 A Yes, the same type of information, seeking wire 4 transfer information from Jeffrey Epstein to victims. 5 We also served OLY-32 to J.P. Morgan Chase Bank. 6 After serving that one on February 26, 2007, they informed 7 us by letter that they are known as Chase, not J.P. Morgan 8 Chase. So we had to reissue another subpoena, which was 9 taken care of on March 22, '07. 10 we also issued OLY-40 on Chase Bank as well on 11 12 April 4, 2007. We received records on April 13, 2007 and April 19, 2007 to cover all three subpoenas that were 13 served. 14 Q And those sought information related to bank 15 accounts and credit cards related to the defendants? 16 A Yes. Additionally, we served OLY-33 on Dr. 17 Thomas Rofranno (phonetic), who's a chiropractic doctor. 18 We were seeking records related to Jeffrey Epstein as a 19 patient. The subpoena was served on March 6, 2007, and 20 Thomas Rofranno provided materials on March 16, 2007. 21 Also we have OLY-36, which was served on the 22 Palm Beach County Health Department. It was served on 23 March 5, 2007, seeking birth certificates of our victims 24 that we were researching. We received the records from 25 the Palm Beach County Health Department on April 16, 2007. EFTA00085487
1 2 3 Page 6 We also served two subpoenas on the Adult Video Warehouse. The first one was OLY-41, which was served -- both of these were served on April 24, 2007, and they were 4 seeking any transactions that had occurred on behalf of 5 Mr. Epstein or those individuals that were working for him 6 or with him. We received items back on the OLY-41 7 subpoena on April 30, 2007. 8 The second subpoena served on Adult Video 9 Warehouse was OLY-34. Again, it was served on April 24, 10 2007, and the Adult Video Warehouse complied and provided 11 us materials on April 30, 2007. 12 That concludes all of the items that we have 13 14 received to date for the outstanding subpoenas that were issued. 15 Q Are the documents that you refer to in that box 16 that's on the desk? 17 A Yes, they are. 18 : Does anyone want to review those 19 documents? At this time, no one is requesting that 20 they want to review the documents today. 21 Would you please swear in the witness to 22 maintain those documents. 23 (Witness sworn in as custodian of the 24 records.) 25 (Witness excused.) EFTA00085488
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 1 Page 7 CERTIFICATE OF REPORTER I CERTIFY pages 1 to 6 is a true transcript of my shorthand notes of the testimony of before the Federal Grand Jury, West Palm Beach, Florida, on the 8th day of May, 2007. Dated at West Palm Beach, Florida this 28th day of May, 2007. Court Reporter EFTA00085489
1 1 UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT 2 SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA WEST PALM BEACH 3 4 5 6 7 8 IN RE: OPERATION LEAP YEAR 9 10 11 12 / Grand Jury #07-103 (TUES-WPB) West Palm Beach, Florida 13 Tuesday, May 15, 2007 14 15 TESTIMONY 16 OF 17 18 19 20 21 APPEARANCE: 22 ASSISTANT U. S. ATTORNEY 23 FOREPERSON P 24 25 OFFICIAL REPORTING SERVICE EFTA00085490















