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INE MAXWELL: I'm not sure I -- I 18 don't -- he would've -- Epstein had his own fashion 19 situation, so he would've -- I don't -- he didn't 20 meet Jean-Luc through me. 21 TODD BLANCHE: Did you ever observe them 22 together over the years? 23 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Absolutely. Yeah, I

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nian or Nat Geo or the -- I just couldn't let 17 everything be hurt by what was happening to me. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know Jean-Luc 19 Brunel? 20 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. 21 TODD BLANCHE: How do you know him? 22 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I met him -- so 23 when -

e 16 Smithsonian or Nat Geo or the -- I just couldn't let 17 everything be hurt by what was happening to me. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know Jean-Luc 19 Brunel? 20 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. 21 TODD BLANCHE: How do you know him? 22 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I met him -- so

an example of an -- of a 8 exploration that we did. 9 And he had a foundation for the ocean and 10 we worked with Nat Geo, we worked with Woods Hole. 11 We did amazing things. 12 We bought-- he bought the Remus 6000, so 13 when the plane went missing, the plane that went -- 14 was it Ai

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at was happening to hurt any... The Smithsonian or that geo or the... I just couldn't let everything be hurt by what was happening to me. Do you know Jean-Luc Brinnell? Yes. How do you know me? I met him so when I told you I was working for the European for my dad and I was in charge... To back in like 90, early 90s

ng for fashion sponsorship. And in fact when I came to America, one of the first sponsors that I got for it was Ron Pellman, who was great. And I met Jean-Luc through just in Paris like that. But socially, not... Mr. Epstein, know him as well. Did you later learn what they knew each other? I'm not sure. He

k for a media air heart as an example of an exploration that we did. And he had a foundation for the ocean and we worked with Nat Geo, we worked with Woods Hole. We did amazing things. We bought the remus 6000 so when the plane went missing the plane that went... Because at their France, from Brazil to Paris,