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f this list. 20 So the original statement that Brad Edwards makes, 21 that's in the documents contemporaneously, is that 22 it's pieces of paper that Alfredo has. 23 It then morphs into something that Alfredo 24 took a book, that Alfredo took from Epstein's 25 computer, but there's no computer I
rry. Confidential informant for them. 11 And in a sting operation obtains the list 12 from a former butler of Epstein's called Alfredo 13 Rodriguez. And it becomes evidence in the civil 14 suit. 15 In the -- Alfredo Rodriguez is 16 subsequently prosecuted for having an AK-47 or 17 som
ANCHE: So that's what I was a 10 little confused about. 11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry. He created a 12 list. He -- so in that book that Alfredo Rodriguez 13 produced, that became evidence, Exhibit 52 in my 14 trial, has markings all over it. Circles and dots 15 and whatnot. 16 TODD BLANCHE: U
civil suits that had come up since 16 I've seen it. And this is me now knowing what's in 17 the list today. 18 And I believe that -- oh, Alfredo 19 Rodriguez, so there's a metamorphosis of this list. 20 So the original statement that Brad Edwards makes, 21 that's in the documents contemporaneously, is that
re that one of those girls 23 is -- was one of the witnesses in my trial, 24 specifically . 25 To use her own testimony so that you don't DOJ REDACTION MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 122 1 have to -- 2 TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. 3 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- hear my point of 4 view. It's
rry. Confidential informant for them. 11 And in a sting operation obtains the list 12 from a former butler of Epstein's called Alfredo 13 Rodriguez. And it becomes evidence in the civil 14 suit. 15 In the -- Alfredo Rodriguez is 16 subsequently prosecuted for having an AK-47 or 17 som
ANCHE: So that's what I was a 10 little confused about. 11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Sorry. He created a 12 list. He -- so in that book that Alfredo Rodriguez 13 produced, that became evidence, Exhibit 52 in my 14 trial, has markings all over it. Circles and dots 15 and whatnot. 16 TODD BLANCHE: U
civil suits that had come up since 16 I've seen it. And this is me now knowing what's in 17 the list today. 18 And I believe that -- oh, Alfredo 19 Rodriguez, so there's a metamorphosis of this list. 20 So the original statement that Brad Edwards makes, 21 that's in the documents contemporaneously, is that
f this list. 20 So the original statement that Brad Edwards makes, 21 that's in the documents contemporaneously, is that 22 it's pieces of paper that Alfredo has. 23 It then morphs into something that Alfredo 24 took a book, that Alfredo took from Epstein's 25 computer, but there's no computer I
ame memory or lack 23 thereof, apply to on planes, at -- in New Mexico, in 24 New York, in -- 25 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, with some other DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION DOJ REDACTION 33 (Pages 126 to 129) 33 (Pages 126 to 129) Page
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