Epstein Secrets

h 23 somebody from the government about, not only your 24 case, but about everything that's been in the media 25 and that's been publicized about Mr. Epstein in your Page 7 1 case. 2 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's -- 3 TODD BLANCHE: Did he -- 4 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's true

ith 6 him to 2009, are you still working for Mr. Epstein 7 during that time? 8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So his -- so it'd be 9 true to say that Jeffrey tried very hard, he tried 10 very hard to -- to keep me to working for him, 11 because this is a complex operator. 12 I'm not talking abou

TODD BLANCHE: Yes. 4 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Not that close, but 5 friendly enough. I mean, you know. 6 TODD BLANCHE: How was Jeffrey Epstein's 7 relationship with his brother Mark from what you 8 observed? 9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I mean, they were 10 brotherly, but I think that -- I

cial firm? Do you know 9 that to be true or no? J. Epstein & Company. You 10 ever heard of that? 11

DATE: July 24, 2025 APPEARANCES: For the United States: Todd Blanche, Deputy Attorney General Diego Pestana, Acting Associate Deputy Attorney General Spencer Horn, FBI Special Agent Mark Beard, Deputy U.S. Marshal For Ghislaine Maxwell: David Markus Leah Saffian Melissa Madrigal 2 (Pages 2 to 5) 2 (Pages 2 to

h 23 somebody from the government about, not only your 24 case, but about everything that's been in the media 25 and that's been publicized about Mr. Epstein in your MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 7 1 case. 2 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's -- 3 TODD BLANCHE: Did he -- 4 GHISLA

ith 6 him to 2009, are you still working for Mr. Epstein 7 during that time? 8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So his -- so it'd be 9 true to say that Jeffrey tried very hard, he tried 10 very hard to -- to keep me to working for him, 11 because this is a complex operator. 12 I'm not talking abou

in the media 25 and that's been publicized about Mr. Epstein in your MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 7 1 case.

DATE: July 24, 2025 APPEARANCES: For the United States: Todd Blanche, Deputy Attorney General Diego Pestana, Acting Associate Deputy Attorney General Spencer Horn, FBI Special Agent Mark Beard, Deputy U.S. Marshal For Ghislaine Maxwell: David Markus Leah Saffian Melissa Madrigal MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 2

riefly, can you talk about when you first met Mr. Epstein, I know that goes back a while and just very gene

ry briefly, can you talk about when you first met Mr. Epstein, I know that goes back a while and just very gene

ing. My name is Assistant Special Agent at Charge Spencer Horn of FBI New York. Today we're doing a proper of hi

noticed strange IP activity that took place yesterday from two IP addresses. The activity included combing through certain files pertaining to the Epstein investigation. I reached out to one of the case agents to see if they were in the office yesterday, thinking that maybe they inadvertently changed

me. During the PCOR conference, ApostleX was still soliciting the FBI about their product. Around that time, ASAC Penza retired and at some point, Spencer Horn became ASAC. The ApostleX program was not active; there was no contract, and my chain of command was aware of what I was doing. The guidance to ge

noticed strange IP activity that took place yesterday from two IP addresses. The activity included combing through certain files pertaining to the Epstein investigation. I reached out to one of the case agents to see if they were in the office yesterday, thinking that maybe they inadvertently changed

me. During the PCOR conference, Apostlex was still soliciting the FBI about their product. Around that time, ASAC Penza retired and at some point, Spencer Horn became ASAC. The ApostleX program was not active; there was no contract, and my chain of command was aware of what I was doing. The guidance to ge

noticed strange IP activity that took place yesterday from two IP addresses. The activity included combing through certain files pertaining to the Epstein investigation. I reached out to one of the case agents to see if they were in the office yesterday, thinking that maybe they inadvertently changed

me. During the PCOR conference, ApostleX was still soliciting the FBI about their product. Around that time, ASAC Penza retired and at some point, Spencer Horn became ASAC. The ApostleX program was not active; there was no contract, and my chain of command was aware of what I was doing. The guidance to ge

ATE: July 25, 2025 APPEARANCES: For the United States: Todd Blanche, Deputy Attorney General Diego Pestana, Acting Associate Deputy Attorney General Spencer Horn, FBI Special Agent Mark Beard, Deputy U.S. Marshal For Ghislaine Maxwell: David Markus Leah Saffian Melissa Madrigal 2 (Pages 217 to 220) 2 (Pages

hat she was working at Mar-a-Lago and that 23 you received a treatment of her -- from her at some 24 point, and that you recruited her to meet 25 Mr. Epstein. Page 220 1 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Right. 2 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know, affirmatively, 3 whether that's true or false, or do you j

e 24 point, and that you recruited her to meet 25 Mr. Epstein. Page 220 1 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Right.