Epstein Secrets

lack. Okay. Glenn Dubin. What's that? Who's that? Eva Dubin's husband. Okay. What was there... I mean, if you

e, I'm not sure I would have known then. I mean, I felt like I suppose the relationship moved into a long-term friend family. Like I felt he had with Eva. So he says he's going to redecorate the house on each other. He asked me specifically which decorator he thinks I should use because I had a lot of

r. Epstein have? Why don't I just give you the names that I remember? Why don't I just give you the names? Do you want the names? No, sure, go ahead. Elizabeth Johnson. As far as you know, the relationship between Mr. Johnson and Mr. Epstein's start? 90s. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So during the time

th him. 18 I believe certainly until '93 or '94, what 19 I didn't know was that I think he was still with his 20 actual girlfriend who was Eva Andersson, who became 21 Eva Dubin. They had been together, my understanding, 22 I think about 10 years. I'm not sure, but that's 23 what I think, 10 years.

CHE: Okay. 21 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Glenn Dubin was a 22 client. 23 TODD BLANCHE: Who's that? 24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Eva Dubin's husband. 25 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. What was their, I MAGNA9 LEGAL SERVICES Page 71 1 mean, if you can -- do you know when -- about when

ANCHE: Yeah. 9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Do you want the names? 10 TODD BLANCHE: Sure. Go ahead. 11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Elizabeth Johnson -- 12 Johnson & Johnson. 13 TODD BLANCHE: When did -- as far as you 14 know, when did the relationship between Ms. Johnson 15 and Mr. Eps

th him. 18 I believe certainly until '93 or '94, what 19 I didn't know was that I think he was still with his 20 actual girlfriend who was Eva Andersson, who became 21 Eva Dubin. They had been together, my understanding, 22 I think about 10 years. I'm not sure, but that's 23 what I think, 10 years.

CHE: Okay. 21 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Glenn Dubin was a 22 client. 23 TODD BLANCHE: Who's that? 24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Eva Dubin's husband. 25 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. What was their, I Page 71 1 mean, if you can -- do you know when -- about when 2 that relationship start

ANCHE: Yeah. 9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Do you want the names? 10 TODD BLANCHE: Sure. Go ahead. 11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Elizabeth Johnson -- 12 Johnson & Johnson. 13 TODD BLANCHE: When did -- as far as you 14 know, when did the relationship between Ms. Johnson 15 and Mr. Eps

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was -- he was well established. 2 TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. 3 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: He didn't need me. 4 And he was, you know, his -- Eva was, you know, major 5 model. So he had all these modeling connections and 6 friends in that business, long before I met him. 7 TODD BLAN

st want to 17 give you some context for the names as well. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Sure. 19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So we talked about 20 Elizabeth Johnson yesterday. 21 TODD BLANCHE: Uh-huh. 22 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: She had a boyfriend 23 and he was Frederic Fekkai, the hairdresser.