Epstein Secrets

up until whenever the Epstein drama struck. And then I just shut it down. I shut it down because I didn't want what was happening to hurt any... The Smithsonian or that geo or the... I just couldn't let everything be hurt by what was happening to me. Do you know Jean-Luc Brinnell? Yes. How do you know me? I m

iends with the bearings, bearings bang. He had, like, sort of... There. That was... Before you met me. Before, so in the 80s. 80s. Yes. He was dating Eva Anderson. Miss Sweden, I think. I don't know when she became Miss. Okay, so earlier when you said that he met them later, you think he may have met some membe

e. Before, so in the 80s. 80s. Yes. He was dating Eva Anderson. Miss Sweden, I think. I don't know when

tein drama struck and then I just shut it down. 14 Not -- I shut it down because I didn't 15 want what was happening to hurt any -- the 16 Smithsonian or Nat Geo or the -- I just couldn't let 17 everything be hurt by what was happening to me. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know Jean-Luc 19 Brun

th him. 18 I believe certainly until '93 or '94, what 19 I didn't know was that I think he was still with his 20 actual girlfriend who was Eva Andersson, who became 21 Eva Dubin. They had been together, my understanding, 22 I think about 10 years. I'm not sure, but that's 23 what I think, 10 years.

CHE: Okay. 21 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Glenn Dubin was a 22 client. 23 TODD BLANCHE: Who's that? 24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Eva Dubin's husband. 25 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. What was their, I Page 71 1 mean, if you can -- do you know when -- about when 2 that relationship start

tein drama struck and then I just shut it down. 14 Not -- I shut it down because I didn't 15 want what was happening to hurt any -- the 16 Smithsonian or Nat Geo or the -- I just couldn't let 17 everything be hurt by what was happening to me. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know Jean-Luc 19 Brun

the -- 10 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: '80s. 11 TODD BLANCHE: -- '80s. Okay. 12 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. He was dating 13 Eva Andersson, Miss Sweden, I think. I don't know 14 when she became Miss Sweden. 15 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So earlier when you 16 said that he met them