ge inside. 24 A Yeah. Be Q Atwhat point did that change? PP? A When he started feeling dewn there and then 24 when -- pretty soon. an Q When you say Higers, did he use more than one TL fuper? Z A Cthink he used two but { don't know, I Q Okay. & A And then afler T told him, | backed away and |] was S k