ard. Q You pulled out some kind of a flight manifest; do you recall that? A Yeah. At some point in time I believe it was either Brad Edwards or Russ Adler pointed out to me that one of the pieces of evidence they were using in the actual case was the flight manifest. And I actually used that to make

you 13 present at the same time? 14 A. Yes. 15 Q. Okay. Was anyone else there with you? 16 A. Yes. 17 Q. Who else was present? 18 A. Russ Adler, someone was on the telephone. I'm 19 not remembering who that was. I can't remember. I will 20 tell you if I do remember. 21 Q. Was Bill Berg