No problem at all. Justin Dillon KaiserDillon PLLC 1401 K St. NW Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 From: Lawrence Krauss a Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 3:59:31 PM To: Justin Dillon Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation. Thanks again. much appreciated.. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at MU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School or Earth & Space Exploration and Physks Department Arizona Slate University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: I Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office (Cynthia): tz- origins. aw.edu I twltteccom/Ikrauss1I luauss.faculry.asu.edu timage002.png, On Mar 22, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Justin Dillon <Ma wrote: Thanks, Lawrence. I appreciate that. And truly, whether you hire or me or someone else, you Just have to ignore the advice of people who tell you to "play ball" and not have a lawyer surface. Many things are debatable in the Title IX world; this is not one of them, I promise you— especially given the somewhat complex constitutional issues at play in your case. And I am a man of my word, so I will call Jeffrey as planned at 11 on Saturday unless you insist otherwise. I understand that this is an extremely stressful time, that you're getting a lot of advice from many different quarters, and that having someone you trust talk to the person you're thinking of hiring can be very important. Justin Justin Dillon KaiserDillon PLLC 1401 K Street NW Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 www.lcaiserdillon.com From: Lawrence Krauss Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 5:31 PM To: Justin Dillon Cc: Lawrence Krauss Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation. have thought about this.. I don't want you to have to take more of your time talking to him.. Sorry to have asked.. It wasn't really fair. You have spent enough time on this. I am going to assess this all and make a decision in the coming days. I do appreciate all your advice thus far, and I am prepared to move forward at this moment, but want to think about it carefully before committing. LMK EFTA00840626

Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: I Assistant (Jessica). Origins Office (Cynthia): kraussPazu edu origins.asu.edu I twitter.comylkraussl I krauss.facultyasu.edu eirnage001.pcgo On Mar 22, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Lawrence Krauss wrote: number to call at II am on sat is 2127509895 Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office Assistant (Jessica): - Origins office (Cynthia): ItaussatiiPla tujtins asu edy I twitter comAkrams1 I hymns facultyassuarb eirnageCO2.png> On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Justin Dillon <la wrote: You are getting terrible advice from smart people who have never done this work and have no idea what they're talking about. I understand where they're coming from, but it is just bad advice, full stop. I could give you dozens of examples where the only reason my clients got off--and we get a lot off--was because we fought hard to make the process fair. Moreover, no one will take seriously the constitutional law arguments of a physicist, no matter how famous he is. You need a lawyer to make those. I don't mean to be rude, but I have to be somewhat jealous with my time so I can focus on the cases in which people have decided to hire me. We spent a lot of time on the phone yesterday, which I was very happy to do, and I am willing to do a short call with Jeffrey, but I can't keep emailing about this. I have a limited amount of time, and I have to make sure that I am spending it as much as possible on my current clients. I assure you that if you hire me and someone else wants to keep talking about their case while they're deciding, I will tell them the same thing--that they have enough information to make a decision and just need to decide. Tell Jeffrey we may have to play phone tag, since my weekend schedule is a little up in the air. So he will need to leave me his number. I think 11 a.m. Eastern should work as a start if it works for him. Justin Dillon KaiserDillon PLLC 1401 K Street NW Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 www kaiserdillon com From: Lawrence Krauss < > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 3:15:12 PM To: Justin Dillon EFTA00840627

Cc: Lawrence Krauss Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation. what number should he call you on? And a good time? BTW when he cals. it says no caller ID on the phone.. (or I could give you his office number) I received similar advice this morning from a former trial lawyer who was also on the board of the Buletin of the Atomic Scientists with me.. He was the one who yesterday urged me to seek legal advice. but today he called to say I should get advice and assistance. but from his experience bringing a lawyer to represent me to these offices is a killer.. that indicatMg that I am not guilty and am wiling to work with the offices (with advice and assistance from a good lawyer in the background) is better. So. I wanted to know your thoughts about this. I assume we could still do a retainer etc and have you assist in every way, including investigation etc.. Thoughts? Sorry to take so much of your time, but this is obviously important to me and I want to handle it very carefuly. And once again. I am happy to pay for your time responding to this email if you want, and talking to Jeffrey. if you want. Lawrence Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at MU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office (CyMhia): krar adu origins.asu.edu I twIner.conOkrauss1 I krauss.faculty.asu.edu eimage002.png> On Mar 22. 2018, at 10:38AM. Justin Dillon sc t• wrote: Hi Lawrence. I know who he is, and I am willing to have a short conversation with him. Please tell him he can give me a call this weekend. Thanks, Justin Justin Dillon KaiserDillon PLLC 1401 K Street NW Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 insidaiarslilkansan From: Lawrence Krauss < Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 12:55 PM To: Justin Dillon <E > Cc: Lawrence Krauss < Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation. Hi Justin. I have a slightly unusual request. I have been advised through much of the BuzzFeed experience, both before and after, by a friend, who is also somewhat infamous. His name isJeffrey Epstein, and you may know who he is already. Bottom line Is that Jeffrey is not only friends with most of the famous people from finance, to business, to Hollywood, who have either been brought down during ',meta° and he also speaks regularly with people ranging from the awful white house people, who he is friends with, to ken start etc. He is concerned about exactly how we play this, as he thinks because of the variety and number of different things being discussed in the media and online, that this will be considered beyond title IX. I should say that all indications I have thus far do not suggest this. But anyway, Jeffrey would like to speak with you, as he has concerns about my having counsel who directly represent me in interactions with the University at this time vs having someone to act as an advisor and draft letters that I can send... I will pay for your time to do that if necessary. Would you be willing to do this in the next day or so? Please let me know, and I can get you contact Info. Thanks. Lawrence Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at MU EFTA00840628

Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor school of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office I Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office 'Cynthia): grapiciszam edg pacific mu edg I twitter comilkrausit I hymn, facultya cimage001.pngs On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:39 PM, Justin Dillon wrote: Ha!! Justin Dillon KaiserDillon PLLC 1401 K St. NW Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 From: Lawrence Krauss < > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:37:37 PM To: Justin Dillon Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation. probably for the best.. you might have become a physicist then, and your net income would be much lower. :) Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office: Assistant (Jessica): Origins Office (Cynthia): krsisqOasu edu origins.asu.edu I twitter.com/Ikraussl I krauss.faculty.asu.edu eirnage002.pngs On Mar 21, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Justin Dillon < > wrote: Ditto! It would've been nice if I could've met you at a book signing 23 years ago, rather than under these circumstances, but so be it. We will get engagement agreement out to you first thing tomorrow morning. Justin Dillon KaiserDillon PLLC 1401 K St. NW Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 From: Lawrence Krauss < => Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:34 PM Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX Investigation. To: Justin Dillon <a Cc: Lawrence Krauss <a EFTA00840629

HI. great talking today. Whatever happens, l really like you. :) anyway, address Is 17575 Blue Heron CT, Lake Oswego, OR 97034 I should add that I have a condo In Phoenix and for the moment that Is my tax residence since that is where my MU Income Is. I am also incorporated with a company which uses that address as well. Primordial Productions INC. 1701 E. Cotter St., Phoenix AZ 85016. It doesn't really matter of course as some company mall comes here as well.. I may pay you out of that company if it goes ahead, but you can advise on that as well.. Thanks again for the great conversation, and the generous time you devoted to it. Made me feel much better. Lawrence Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at ASU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor School of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department Arizona State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research Office I Assistant (Jessica) Origins Office ICynthia): baussPasu edir gujfi asu edu I twitter comilluaubj, I grants 1 ari lLVALI1LSZLIZ cimage002.pngs On Mar 21, 2018, at 12:26 PM, Justin Dillon •;: > wrote: Great, I will call you then. Justin Dillon KaiserDillon PLLC 1401 K Street NW Suite 600 Washington, DC 20005 www.kaiserdillon.com From: Lawrence Krauss cti MI> Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 1:25 PM To: Justin Dillon Cc: Susan Geiger Nancy Portland Subject: Re: Advice re Title IX investigation. perfect! thanks. Lawrence M. Krauss Director, The Origins Project at MU Co-Director, Cosmology Initiative Foundation Professor Schad of Earth & Space Exploration and Physics Department A/DOrla State University, P.O. Box 871404, Tempe, AZ 85287-1404 Research office Assistant DeSSIC2): Origins Office 'Cynthia): kraussfeasu edu EFTA00840630