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d some of that abuse did occur when she was 14 a minor. 15 THE COURT: Yes. Well, okay. But there are other 16 things that she sets forth in the Churcher articles, in the 17 motion to intervene, there are a whole series of other things 18 that are -- I mean, there are things that have been said, an
ment made? 19 MS. McCAWLEY: The statement was made in a March 5th 20 article. So not the two articles we showed you yesterday 21 THE COURT: The Churcher article. 22 MS. McCAWLEY: Yes. But it was another article that 23 came out in March of 2011. 24 And the statement was with respect to my client
by -- SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 EFTA00794599 45 H3VOGIU1 1 2 3 4 5 Ms. THE COURT: I've read it. MS. MENNINGER: -- Sharon Churcher. THE COURT: Yes, I've read it. MS. MENNINGER: Okay. It's the one in which on March 5th, 2011, gave a long and lengthy 6 interview to Sharon Chur
H3V0GIU1 1 these other things that are circulating about her that have 2 nothing to do with Ms. Maxwell. 3 Mr. Cassell referred to our expert Phillip Esplin, 4 Dr. Esplin, and saying that he agreed not to refer to 5 as a prostitute. Your Honor, that came up in the 6 context of a cross examination in
at abuse, and some of that abuse did occur when she was a minor. THE COURT: Yes. Well, okay. But there are other things that she sets forth in the Churcher articles, in the motion to intervene, there are a whole series of other things that are -- I mean, there are things that have been said, and my re
the statement made? MS. McCAWLEY: The statement was made in a March 5th article. So not the two articles we showed you yesterday -- THE COURT: The Churcher article. MS. McCAWLEY: Yes. But it was another article that came out in March of 2011. And the statement was with respect to my client saying she
VOGIU1 53 1 these other things that are circulating about her that have 2 nothing to do with Ms. Maxwell. 3 Mr. Cassell referred to our expert Phillip Esplin, 4 Dr. Esplin, and saying that he agreed not to refer to 5 s a prostitute. Your Honor, that came up in the 6 context of a cross examination in
statement made? MS. McCAWLEY: The statement was made in a March 5th article. So not the two articles we showed you yesterday -- THI Gl COURT: The Churcher article. MS. McCAWLEY: Yes. But it was another article that came out in March of 2011. And the statement was with respect to my client saying she
hat abuse, and some of that abuse did occur when she was a minor. THE COURT: Yes. Well, okay. But there are other things that she sets forth in the Churcher articles, in the motion to intervene, there are a whole series of other things that are -- I mean, there are things that have been said, and my re
24 25 53 H3VOGIU1 these other things that are circulating about her that have nothing to do with Ms. Maxwell. Mr. Cassell referred to our expert Phillip Esplin, Dr. Esplin, and saying that he agreed not to refer to Virginia Roberts as a prostitute. Your Honor, that came up in the context of a cross examina
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