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6 of met her? 7 A. No, sir. 8 Q. Let's see if I can refresh your memory on 9 her. She's the other person represented by your lawyer 10 Mr. Herman, who is suing Epstein for fifty million 11 dollars. 12 A. I have no knowledge of her. 13 Q• Never met her? 14 A. Never met her. 15 Q. 1
a year ago. 4 Q. A year ago? 5 A. Yeah. Maybe a year and a half. 6 Q. Do you remember Detective Recarey? 7 A. No. 8 Q. Do you remember Michelle Pagan, Detective 9 Pagan? 10 A. Yes. 11 Q. How many times have you spoken to Detective 12 Pagan? 13 A. She was the only one I spoke to about t
for this deposition. 18 BY MR. TEIN: 19 Q. Go ahead. Please answer yes or no. 20 A. Yes. 21 Q. Thank you. 22 In fact, you know that Mr. Herman held a 23 press conference after he filed the fifty-million-dollar 24 lawsuit on your behalf, don't you? 25 A. After it happened. Ph. 561.682
A. No. I really don't remember. 11 Q. So you told Jeff that you were 18 years 12 old, correct? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Do you remember Detective Michelle Pagan of 15 the Police Department, Palm Beach Police Department? 16 A. Yes. 17 Q. Do you remember you spoke to her? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. Do you r
which I'm doing, and I'll make the same objection. And if it calls for attorney/client privilege, any conversations you In fact, you know that Mr. Herman held a Ph. 561.682.0905 - Fax. 561.682.1771 1655 Palm Beach Lakes Blvd., Suite 500 - West Palm Beach, FL 33401 76 o1316 EFTA00180376 Case 9:08-
A. No. I really don't remember. 11 Q. So you told Jeff that you were 18 years 12 old, correct? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Do you remember Detective Michelle Pagan of 15 the Police Department, Palm Beach Police Department? 16 A. Yes. 17 Q. Do you remember you spoke to her? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. Do you r
e 9:08-cv-80804-KAM ent 1 Entered on FLSD Docket 07/21/2008 Page 75 of 100 nsor & Associates \ Reporting and Transcriponn, Inc. Page 49 1 Mr. Herman in the presence of IMO" 2 A. None. 3 Q. What discussions did you have in the 4 presence of her aunt? 5 A. Of my aunt? 6 MR. GOLDBERGER:
A. No. I really don't remember. 11 Q. So you told Jeff that you were 18 years 12 old, correct? 13 A. Yes. 14 Q. Do you remember Detective Michelle Pagan of 15 the Police Department, Palm Beach Police Department? 16 A. Yes. 17 Q. Do you remember you spoke to her? 18 A. Yes. 19 Q. Do you r
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