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TODD BLANCHE: Aside from that flight, do 16 you know him from any other thing? 17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Naomi Campbell? 19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes, I do know Naomi, 20 and I knew her before I met Mr. Epstein and Mr. -- 21 former President Clinton. 22
any other thing? 17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Naomi Campbell? 19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes, I do know Naomi, 20 and I knew her before I met Mr. Epstein and Mr. -- 21 former President Clinton. 22 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether 23 Mr. Epstein s
before I met Mr. Epstein and Mr. -- 21 former President Clinton. 22 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether 23 Mr. Epstein separately knew Ms. Campbell? 24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think she -- he 25 probably met her through me, that I imagine. Page 270 1 TODD BLANCHE: And so fo
he was very, very friendly Page 277 1 with, all centered around Harvard. So I remember 2 him. 3 Martin Nowak, who's a mathematician. 4 Stephen Jay Gould. I don't know if Stephen Jay Gould 5 was -- came through the Harvard angle, but I know 6 that there was a -- he would -- excuse me, Epstein 7 would
social commentators Betty Friedan, Paul =rassner, Naomi Wolf, and the late Abbie Hoffman; writers Annie
arts and sciences: actor Ellen =urstyn; philosopher Daniel C. 0ennett; scientists Richard Dawkins, =reeman Dyson, Niles Eldredge, Murray Gell-Mann, Stephen Jay Gould, =tewart Kauffman, Benoit Mandelbrot, Lynn Margulis, and George Williams; =sychologists Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, Howard Gardner, Steven Pinker, =nd
TODD BLANCHE: Aside from that flight, do 16 you know him from any other thing? 17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Naomi Campbell? 19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes, I do know Naomi, 20 and I knew her before I met Mr. Epstein and Mr. -- 21 former President Clinton. 22
Page: Interview_Transcript_Maxwell_2025-07-25-cft_p15 →any other thing? 17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. 18 TODD BLANCHE: Naomi Campbell? 19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes, I do know Naomi, 20 and I knew her before I met Mr. Epstein and Mr. -- 21 former President Clinton. 22 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether 23 Mr. Epstein s
Page: Interview_Transcript_Maxwell_2025-07-25-cft_p15 →before I met Mr. Epstein and Mr. -- 21 former President Clinton. 22 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know whether 23 Mr. Epstein separately knew Ms. Campbell? 24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think she -- he 25 probably met her through me, that I imagine. Page 270 1 TODD BLANCHE: And so for
Page: Interview_Transcript_Maxwell_2025-07-25-cft_p15 →to 280) 17 (Pages 277 to 280) Page 277 1 with, all centered around Harvard. So I remember 2 him. 3 Martin Nowak, who's a mathematician. 4 Stephen Jay Gould. I don't know if Stephen Jay Gould 5 was -- came through the Harvard angle, but I know 6 that there was a -- he would -- excuse me, Epstein 7 would
Page: Interview_Transcript_Maxwell_2025-07-25-cft_p17 →Entities connected to both Naomi Campbell and Stephen Jay Gould

Jeffrey Epstein
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George W. Bush
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Ghislaine Maxwell
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Prince Andrew
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Bill Clinton
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Donald Trump
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Marc Rich
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Julie K. Brown
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Alan Dershowitz
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Virginia Giuffre
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Bradley Edwards
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John F. Kennedy
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Stephen Hawking
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Eric Trump
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New York
LOCATIONEmmy Taylor
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Department of Justice
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Michael Jackson
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New York City
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Lawrence Krauss
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