Epstein Secrets

A. Oh. yes. Yeah. 23 0. When's the first time you flew on the airplane 24 with Jeffrey Epstein back in 2001, after he acquired the 25 727? 96 Kennedy, and the service was so terrible in Kennedy 2 and so expensive we went to Newark. 3 0. When you would fly into White Plains or to 4 Kennedy or

Beach? 11 A. I don't know. I don't know. 12 O. I'm trying to keep them in order. 13 So coming back - you know, it looks like they 14 take to JFK: David Mullen, Tod Myster (sic), some 15 passengers unnamed - they come back with only M. M. and - any idea why? 17 MR. PIKE: Form. 18 A. N

nt in time do you become aware 16 that that'8 happening? 17 A. I can't remember exactly when they bought 18 the Gulfstream. They actually had a Hawker for a 19 shod period. I don't know when that was. 20 O. Was that also owned by Jeffrey Epstein? 21 A. Fora very short period, and he traded it.

ora very short period, and he traded it. 22 O. The first Epstein plane that you're aware of 23 is that Visoski and Rodgers are on -- 24 A. Was a Hawker. 25 O. -- was approximately what year? 76 1 MR. REINHART: Asked and answered. 2 A. I can't - The only time I would remember 3 - we've alread

eduling the flight. When flying to Europe to Paris or London, EPSTEIN and MAXWELL took the Concorde, a commercial flight. Flying from Palm Beach to JFK, they could taxi right up to the Concorde. This was in approximately 1992-1994, when they flew the Hawker. MAXWELL had a quarter share for a year

of flight logs he was not on. When RODGERS was operating the Boeing and the Gulfstream, he was going to two to three weeks worth of training. The Hawker and Gulfstream overlapped in 1994. In 1996, 1997, 1998, if EPSTEIN was not on the flight, the plane was not being flown with a few exceptions. RODG

commercial flight. Flying from Palm Beach to JFK, they could taxi right up to the Concorde. This was in approximately 1992-1994, when they flew the Hawker. MAXWELL had a quarter share for a year or maybe two to three that she was able to travel wherever she wanted, so RODGERS did not always fly her.

three Secret Service agents, Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and . Do 3 you remember that flight? 4 A. Where did we go? 5 0. Starts in JFK. 6 A. Right. 7 Q. Where is that? 8 MR. CRITTON: Do you have a date? 9 MR. EDWARDS: March 19th, 2002. 10 THE WITNESS: EGGW I believe is

ctober 15, 2009 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. And which airplane was that? A. The Hawker. Q. Does he still have the Hawker? A. No. Q • How long did he have that plane? 39 A. Five years, guesstimate; four or five years. Q. So so

hear you. THE WITNESS: Oh. MR. REINHART: And so Mr. Willits can hear you. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Other than the Gulfstream and the Boeing and the Hawker, what other airplanes has Jeffrey Epstein owned over the years? A. That is it. Q. And currently still owns -- or the companies associated with