Epstein Secrets

rrect copy of the foregoing instrument has been served by email and first class mail, this 17th day of August, on: Brad S. Karp Allan Arffa Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP 1285 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10019 John S. Siffert Lankier Siffert & Wohl LLP 500 Fifth Avenue, 33r

on of Perry Gruss. 1205876v1/011585 13 EFTA00722321 Timestamp: 8/16/2010 5:38 PM CDT 38. All communications among Counterclaim Respondents and Gruss concerning Gruss's termination or the subsequent litigation filed by Gruss against Zwim, including any pleadings or discovery instruments or docume

l documents concerning any review or investigation of the Fund's operations, finances, or accounting prompted by or occurring after the departure of Perry Gruss from involvement with the Fund or any of the Zwim Entities. 36. All witness statements taken in connection with any internal review or investigat

XAMINATION BY 3 MR. ARFFA: 4 Q. Good afternoon, Mr. Epstein. 5 A. Good afternoon, Mr. Arffa. 03:46:46 6 Q. I'm Alan Arffa. I'm from Paul, Weiss 7 and represent the current manager, as you know, of 8 the fund. 9 A. Yes, sir. 10 Q. Mr. Epstein, you characterize yourself 03:46:54 11

hs. 25 Q. Who was present? 03:14:49 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext.com EFTA00299294 Page 211 1 Epstein 2 A. I believe just Mr. Gruss and me. 3 Q. Who set up the meeting? 4 A. I did. 5 Q. How? 03:15:05 6 A. I called him. 7 Q. And asked if he would meet with you? 8

ate a bunch of 18 conversations, it was all the fact that Dan Zwirn 19 was a crook. 20 Q. Did you ever have a conversation with 03:14:36 21 Perry Gruss? 22 A. Yes. 23 Q. When was that? 24 A. In the past two months. 25 Q. Who was present? 03:14:49 VERITEXT REPORTING COMPANY www.veritext

at a true and correct copy of the foregoing instrument has been served by email and first class mail, this day of Brad S. Karp Allan Arffa Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP 1285 Avenue of the Americas New York, NY 10019 John S. Siffert Lankier Siffert & Wohl LLP 500 Fifth Avenue, 33r

m contacted Epstein. The two had not spoken about anything of substance since 2002. Zwim informed Epstein that the Fund's Chief Financial Officer, Perry Gruss, had been terminated over an accounting transaction that was "nonmaterial." Zwim specifically mentioned that more than $3 million in investor money