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stion that? A. Well, because -- I think I want to look at the information we were talking about. Is the question of time frame and so, you know, the Dershowitzes on these flights with Epstein in 1998, and I think 2004, 2005, which is, you know, there's like a -- obviously a Six or seven-year period, so I would

e phone, could you -- Can we mute them? Would you mute it, please? Before the phone is muted, Yeah. Who is on the phone? Ken Sweder. Anyone else? Alan Dershowitz. Darrin Indyke. Anyone else? Did you get I just need to make a note ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021936 Oo O DN OO FF WwW NY =| NO RO PO P

MR. SCAROLA: Okay. It's 4:25. BY MR. SIMPSON: Q. In the Rodriguez deposition at one point, he was asked a question and he responds with the name, Larry Dershowitz. Do you recall that? A. Oh, you mean Larry -- you didn't mean to say Larry Dershowitz. Q. His answer was Larry Dershowitz in the deposition? A. I

ell, I say it's very important to Mr. Dershowitz, Professor Dershowitz also, he was trying to answer questions. I'm not

. Who is on the phone? Ken Sweder. Anyone else? Alan Dershowitz. Darrin Indyke. Anyone else? Did you

OO FF WwW NY =| NO RO PO PNP NM NO | S| S| HS SF S| S| S| S| S| non BP WO NO -|- ODO OO WDN OO OT BP WO NYO — 128 Mr. Dershowitz on a flight with Tatiana; is that right? A. Correct. Q. Did you find out before December 30th of 2014 how old Tatiana was at the time? A. Yes. Q. How -- how old was she? A.

t for the record. I may want to mark two things. A. Okay. Q. Exhibit 1 is documented Plaintiff's Response to Motion for Limited Intervention by Alan M. Dershowitz, and I'm going to ask the reporter to mark another exhibit at the same time. This will be Exhibit 2, and this is a document entitled Jane Doe Numb

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NAME: BRADLEY J. EDWARDS and PAUL G. CASSELL vs. ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ WITNESS NAME: PAUL G. CASSELL DAT

og and you wanted to talk about Mr. Dershowitz. On December 30th, 2009, I was aware that there was a flight log showing Mr. Dershowitz flying with Tatiana (indicating), who as far as I can tell was not a business person, was not providing financial advice or something else. I understood that Mr. Epst

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ODO OO WDN OO OT BP WO NYO — Sweeder & Ross for Professor Dershowitz. Thereupon, PAUL G. CASSELL, having been first

NAME: BRADLEY J. EDWARDS and PAUL G. CASSELL vs. ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ WITNESS NAME: PAUL G. CASSELL DAT

t log and you wanted to talk about Mr. Dershowitz. On December 30th, 2009, I was aware that there was a flight log showing Mr. Dershowitz flying with Tatiana (indicating), who as far as I can tell was not a business person, was not providing financial advice or something else. I understood that Mr. Epstei

, 4:01 p.m. (Thereupon, a recess was taken.) THE VIDEOGRAPHER: We are back on the video record, 4:04 p.m. (Thereupon, Kenneth A. Sweder, Esquire, Alan M. Dershowitz and Carolyn Cohen left the proceedings.) ESQUIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 420 MR, SCAROLA: The record should reflect that Mr. and Mrs.

fy sealing these presumptively-public documents. L DERSHOWITZ HAS NOT JUSTIFIED SEALING ALLEGED DEFAMATORY RECO

e to speak up. MR. SCOTT: You're going to have to speak up a little bit more, Counsel. MR. INDYKE: Objection. This is Darren Indyke. Anything that Alan might have to say to that, to the extent they are covered under conversations with Jeffrey Epstein, privileged under attorney-client privileges as

UIRE DEPOSITION SOLUTIONS (954) 331-4400 mention Professor Dershowitz's name once. A. I said flight logs. And let's ta

N FO A. I don’t remember that I flew with her or not. I may have. But I don't recall necessarily. But I did meet -- I remember meeting a woman named Tatiana. This does not look like Tatiana, like the woman I met. Q. Okay. So that's a -- that's a different Tatiana? A. No, I don't know. MR. SCOTT: Object

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