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stion that? A. Well, because -- I think I want to look at the information we were talking about. Is the question of time frame and so, you know, the Dershowitzes on these flights with Epstein in 1998, and I think 2004, 2005, which is, you know, there's like a -- obviously a Six or seven-year period, so I would
e phone, could you -- Can we mute them? Would you mute it, please? Before the phone is muted, Yeah. Who is on the phone? Ken Sweder. Anyone else? Alan Dershowitz. Darrin Indyke. Anyone else? Did you get I just need to make a note ROUGH DRAFT ONLY HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_021936 Oo O DN OO FF WwW NY =| NO RO PO P
MR. SCAROLA: Okay. It's 4:25. BY MR. SIMPSON: Q. In the Rodriguez deposition at one point, he was asked a question and he responds with the name, Larry Dershowitz. Do you recall that? A. Oh, you mean Larry -- you didn't mean to say Larry Dershowitz. Q. His answer was Larry Dershowitz in the deposition? A. I
ell, I say it's very important to Mr. Dershowitz, Professor Dershowitz also, he was trying to answer questions. I'm not
. Who is on the phone? Ken Sweder. Anyone else? Alan Dershowitz. Darrin Indyke. Anyone else? Did you
02 versus Epstein, you referred to that complaint? A. Yes. Q. And Jane Doe 102 is Virginia Roberts, correct? A. Yes. Q. And you talked about the Josefsburg firm, Bob Josefsburg, who we all -- there was testimony about him being a respected lawyer; you heard that. Right? A. — Right. Q. Did you ever ask
t for the record. I may want to mark two things. A. Okay. Q. Exhibit 1 is documented Plaintiff's Response to Motion for Limited Intervention by Alan M. Dershowitz, and I'm going to ask the reporter to mark another exhibit at the same time. This will be Exhibit 2, and this is a document entitled Jane Doe Numb
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NAME: BRADLEY J. EDWARDS and PAUL G. CASSELL vs. ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ WITNESS NAME: PAUL G. CASSELL DAT
icated that had been sexually abused in Florida, in New York, and in other places as I recall. The thing that I particularly recall was that Mr. Josefsburg had said was abused by -- he gave some categories of people. He mentioned, I think, business people, he mentioned royalty, and he mentioned acade
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NAME: BRADLEY J. EDWARDS and PAUL G. CASSELL vs. ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ WITNESS NAME: PAUL G. CASSELL DAT
Virginia Roberts had been sexually abused in Florida, in New York, and in other places as I recall. The thing that I particularly recall was that Mr. Josefsburg had said Virginia Roberts was abused by -- he gave some categories of people. He mentioned, I think, business people, he mentioned royalty, and he m
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