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rk, 21 to help look at some of that. He was having some 22 advertising issues with the New York Daily News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was friendly with him and 25 liked him very much. And I think, should be said 4 (Pages 10 to 13) 4 (Pages 10 to
. 3 So I don't -- I don't remember if I did 4 meet him or not in 1990 with my dad, but I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before you 7 met -- 8 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: This was before I met 9 Mr. Epstein. 10 TOD
ly News. And 23 in fact, I met -- I may have met Donald Trump at that 24 time, because my father was frie
y beginning of the conversation, 11 you mentioned President Trump in the early '90s. 12 GHISLAINE MAXWEL
t I knew that 5 that's how I knew about, -- about Mr. Trump. 6 TODD BLANCHE: And this was before
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But the issue is, how do you satisfy a mob 12 who can't understand the lifestyle because it's like 13 P. Diddy in Redux on TV with Clintons and Trump. I 14 mean, it's -- it's bananas. And while some of it is 15 real, he did do those things. I'm definitely not 16 disputing that. 17 But
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