Epstein Secrets

Q. Mr. , I think you also flew Mr. Epstein a number of times to Columbus, Ohio; isn't that right? A. That's correct. Q. Columbus, Ohio is where Les Wexner lives? A. That's correct. Q. Les Wexner is the billionaire owner of the Limited? A. That's correct. Q. That's the clothing company? A. Yes. Q.

. That's correct. Q. Columbus, Ohio is where Les Wexner lives? A. That's correct. Q. Les Wexner is the

pstein a number of times to Columbus, Ohio; isn't that right? A. That's correct. Q. Columbus, Ohio is where Les Wexner lives? A. That's correct. Q. Les Wexner is the billionaire owner of the Limited? A. That's correct. Q. That's the clothing company? A. Yes. Q. It owns Victoria's Secret and Abercrombie

s 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. And Epstein had a home and an office in Columbus, Ohio where Les Wexner's home was; isn't that right? A. That is correct. Q. So he had a few reasons to go to Columbus, Ohio? A. That's correct. Q. Now, you were asked a f

as used from about '91 -- 1991 to 1994; is that right? A. That's correct. MR. EVERDELL: Okay. We can take that down. Q. So you no longer flew the Hawker after about '94? A. No, the aircraft was sold after '94. Q. And there was another aircraft you mentioned, the Gulfstream, the G2B, right? A. Corr

I think we saw in one of the photos, I won't call it up, but there was a small Cessna? A. Yes. Q. But from about 1994, after Mr. Epstein sold the Hawker, till about 2001 or 2000, I think is your recollection, when he bought the Boeing, you flew primarily the Gulfstream? A. That is correct. SOUTHER

ay. RODGERS thought they traveled to Ohio to see LES WEXNER. RODGERS thought WEXNER had a place in Aspen as w

was official residence • RODGERS did not know why they traveled to Midway. RODGERS thought they traveled to Ohio to see LES WEXNER. RODGERS thought WEXNER had a place in Aspen as well. RODGERS recalled that in Michigan, there was a music camp at INTERLOCHEN where musicians attended. RODGERS thought i

of flight logs he was not on. When RODGERS was operating the Boeing and the Gulfstream, he was going to two to three weeks worth of training. The Hawker and Gulfstream overlapped in 1994. In 1996, 1997, 1998, if EPSTEIN was not on the flight, the plane was not being flown with a few exceptions. RODG

commercial flight. Flying from Palm Beach to JFK, they could taxi right up to the Concorde. This was in approximately 1992-1994, when they flew the Hawker. MAXWELL had a quarter share for a year or maybe two to three that she was able to travel wherever she wanted, so RODGERS did not always fly her.

rst hired in approximately July 1991 by JE o DR was flying for a real estate developer in Columbus, Ohio, and aviation manager next door worked for Les Wexner and suggested DR might be interested in flying for Jeffrey because he was getting same airplane DR was flying. o DR said he was interested, the avi

o, and aviation manager next door worked for Les Wexner and suggested DR might be interested in flying f

uling fueling o Flight engineer only needed on Boeing 727, maintains all systems • During DR's employment with JE, JE owned following: o First a Hawker o Then a gulfstream G2B o Then a Cesta 421, used for short flights o Then a Boeing 727 o Gulfstream 4 o Gulfstream 550 o Helicopters • Betwee

s your understanding as to who Mr. 13 Epstein's real friends are? 14 A. I really don't know. I don't I don't 15 know. It's It's not like the Wexners where, you 16 know, they were high school associates, you know. 17 growing up. le O. Do you know what Mr. Epstein did prior to 19 managing t

nt in time do you become aware 16 that that'8 happening? 17 A. I can't remember exactly when they bought 18 the Gulfstream. They actually had a Hawker for a 19 shod period. I don't know when that was. 20 O. Was that also owned by Jeffrey Epstein? 21 A. Fora very short period, and he traded it.

ora very short period, and he traded it. 22 O. The first Epstein plane that you're aware of 23 is that Visoski and Rodgers are on -- 24 A. Was a Hawker. 25 O. -- was approximately what year? 76 1 MR. REINHART: Asked and answered. 2 A. I can't - The only time I would remember 3 - we've alread

nd do you know Les Wexler? A. No, I don't. Q. Have you ever met him before? 53 A. I have met him. Q. Do you know of any relationship between Les Wexler and Jeffrey Epstein? A. I don't know what -- to what extent they have a relationship, no. Q • Do you know if they know one another? A. I don't

ctober 15, 2009 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 Q. And which airplane was that? A. The Hawker. Q. Does he still have the Hawker? A. No. Q • How long did he have that plane? 39 A. Five years, guesstimate; four or five years. Q. So so

hear you. THE WITNESS: Oh. MR. REINHART: And so Mr. Willits can hear you. BY MR. EDWARDS: Q. Other than the Gulfstream and the Boeing and the Hawker, what other airplanes has Jeffrey Epstein owned over the years? A. That is it. Q. And currently still owns -- or the companies associated with

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ported By: RECAREY, JOSEPH 5/15/06 Entered By.: ALTOMARO, NICKIE A. 5/15/06 On May 10, 2006, information was received that Epstein's associate, Leslie Wexner, The Limited Inc, CEO's, plane had arrived in West Palm Beach, PBIA. The plane, a Gulfstream 4 bearing a N900LS registration, was on the tarmac at

on was received that Epstein's associate, Leslie Wexner, The Limited Inc, CEO's, plane had arrived in Wes