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LL: I think the 2000s, 6 actually, for that. You can date that because it was 7 from when he -- I think he probably knew Frederic 8 before he dated Elizabeth. But -- 9 TODD BLANCHE: And when you say they were 10 very friendly, did they go -- did they travel 11 together? 12 GHISLAINE

cientific discoveries -- 6 well, not all of them, but many of them are coming 7 from the Eastern block and that's how we have the 8 relationship with Santa Fe Institute. 9 And Murray Gell-Mann, specifically. And I 10 introduced Epstein to Murray Gell-Mann. Sorry, to go 11 off on a tangent. 12