Epstein Secrets

nt in time do you become aware 16 that that'8 happening? 17 A. I can't remember exactly when they bought 18 the Gulfstream. They actually had a Hawker for a 19 shod period. I don't know when that was. 20 O. Was that also owned by Jeffrey Epstein? 21 A. Fora very short period, and he traded it.

ora very short period, and he traded it. 22 O. The first Epstein plane that you're aware of 23 is that Visoski and Rodgers are on -- 24 A. Was a Hawker. 25 O. -- was approximately what year? 76 1 MR. REINHART: Asked and answered. 2 A. I can't - The only time I would remember 3 - we've alread

e. O. Do you know anybody that owns any properly sounds familiar, but I don't No. I can't say that I have. Elena Weber? Can't say that I have. Glenn Dubin? Glenn Dubin, yes. How do you know him? I think he's a money or finance manager of 186 1 remember it. I have never met David Copperfield, but

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of flight logs he was not on. When RODGERS was operating the Boeing and the Gulfstream, he was going to two to three weeks worth of training. The Hawker and Gulfstream overlapped in 1994. In 1996, 1997, 1998, if EPSTEIN was not on the flight, the plane was not being flown with a few exceptions. RODG

commercial flight. Flying from Palm Beach to JFK, they could taxi right up to the Concorde. This was in approximately 1992-1994, when they flew the Hawker. MAXWELL had a quarter share for a year or maybe two to three that she was able to travel wherever she wanted, so RODGERS did not always fly her.

"AS" who was ANDY STUART, • RODGERS thought he probably took a commercial airline home to West Palm Beach. May 2, 1996 - Flight 831 • Flight to Dublin. • Passengers included EPSTEIN, ELIZABETH JOHNSON of JOHNSON AND JOHNSON, and the rest of the passengers included JOHNSON's people. May 3, 1996 -

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