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isted on meet- | | Epst_9780451494566_2p_all_r1.z.indd 53 @ 9/29/16 5:51 Pa | | HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_019541 54 | HOW AMERICA LOST ITS SECRETS ing with Packer naked in a sauna so he could be sure Packer did not have a recording device (other than his notebook). Appelbaum stated repeatedly in interviews that
illance state Snowden described closely dovetailed with the sur- veillance state that Greenwald had described himself in his speech at the Council on American-Islamic Relations dinner in 2012. Of | | Epst_9780451494566_2p_all_r1.z.indd 71 @ 9/29/16 5:51 Pa | | HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_019559 72 | HOW AMERICA LOST ITS SECRETS cour
The film can be found at https://thoughtmaybe.com/citizenfour/. “The initial impression”: Greenwald, No Place to Hide, 30. “Minutes after meeting”: Packer, “Holder of Secrets.” One possible reason: Snowden, interview with Williams; Bamford, “Edward Snowden”; Jane Mayer, “Snowden Calls Russian-Spy Story
states-of-secrets/the-frontline-interview-barton-gellman/. 69 Poitras had requested help: Karen Greenberg, interview with the author. 7o Council on American-Islamic Relations: CAIR-NY Blog, “Glenn Greenwald Speaks at CAIR-NY Annual Banquet,” May 16, 2013. | | Epst_9780451494566_2p_all_r1.indd 312 @ 9/30/16 8:13AM | | HOU
protect himself from American surveillance. For example, when George Packer interviewed him for the New Yorker, in 2014, he insisted on meeting with Packer naked in a sauna so he could be sure Packer did not have a recording device (other than his notebook.) Appelbaum stated repeatedly in other interview
opportunity arose in mid-April 2013. Greenwald had flown to New York to give the lead speech at an event in Yonkers, N.Y. sponsored by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, or CAIR, a pro-Moslem civil rights and anti-Zionist organization. He had delivered the keynote speech at its previous meeting in San Jose, Californi
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