Epstein Secrets

s two other long-term girlfriends, Paula Heil Fisher, a for- mer associate of his at the brokerage firm Bear Stearns and now an opera pro- ducer, and Eva Andersson Dubin, a doctor and onetime model. He tells people that when a relationship is over the girlfriend "moves up, not down," to friendship status.) Some of

irm Bear Stearns and now an opera pro- ducer, and Eva Andersson Dubin, a doctor and onetime model. He tells peopl

represents an achievement to Jeffrey." Some girls who "worked" for Epstein—the term favored by the unfriendly assistant, , who allegedly kept the Rolodex—seem to have embraced that fantasy, too. One girl said she was "so in love with Jeff Epstein and would do anything for him." Two college girls/aspir

th him. 18 I believe certainly until '93 or '94, what 19 I didn't know was that I think he was still with his 20 actual girlfriend who was Eva Andersson, who became 21 Eva Dubin. They had been together, my understanding, 22 I think about 10 years. I'm not sure, but that's 23 what I think, 10 years.

CHE: Okay. 21 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Glenn Dubin was a 22 client. 23 TODD BLANCHE: Who's that? 24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Eva Dubin's husband. 25 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. What was their, I Page 71 1 mean, if you can -- do you know when -- about when 2 that relationship start

GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So there would've -- 2 so there's two things -- well, three ways. So I know 3 that the house itself, John Alessi had a Rolodex that 4 he kept the names and numbers of all the people that 5 came to the house so that he could call. 6 So --because I only was with Epst

two other long- term girlfriends, Paula Heil Fisher. a for- mer associate of his at the brokerage firm Bear Stearns and now an opera producer, and Eva Andersson Dubin. a doctor and onetime model. He tells people that when a relationship is over the girlfriend "moves up, not down," to friendship status.) Some of

irm Bear Stearns and now an opera producer, and Eva Andersson Dubin. a doctor and onetime model. He tells peop

an achievement to Jeffrey." Some girls who "worked" for Epstein—the term favored by the unfriendly assistant, Sarah Kellen, who allegedly kept the Rolodex—seem to have embraced that fantasy, too. One girl said she was "so in love with Jeff Epstein and would do anything for him." Two college girls/aspir

the -- 10 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: '80s. 11 TODD BLANCHE: -- '80s. Okay. 12 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes. He was dating 13 Eva Andersson, Miss Sweden, I think. I don't know 14 when she became Miss Sweden. 15 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So earlier when you 16 said that he met them

GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So there would've -- 2 so there's two things -- well, three ways. So I know 3 that the house itself, John Alessi had a Rolodex that 4 he kept the names and numbers of all the people that 5 came to the house so that he could call. 6 So --because I only was with Epst