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Hong Kong, Greenwald was awaiting a green light to go there from Janine Gibson, the editor of the Guardian website, who was based in New York. Under Gibson’s leadership, The Guardian's website had effectively “gone into the business of publishing gov- ernment secrets,” as the Guardian columnist Michael W
isted on meet- | | Epst_9780451494566_2p_all_r1.z.indd 53 @ 9/29/16 5:51 Pa | | HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_019541 54 | HOW AMERICA LOST ITS SECRETS ing with Packer naked in a sauna so he could be sure Packer did not have a recording device (other than his notebook). Appelbaum stated repeatedly in interviews that
ce His Epic NSA Leaks.” asked Appelbaum to help: Appelbaum, “Edward Snowden Interview.” Greenwald was awaiting: Greenwald, No Place to Hide, 16-18. Gibson authorized Greenwald's trip: The description of The Guardian’s reac- tion to Greenwald’s offer of a scoop was reported by Luke Harding, a Guard- ian
The film can be found at https://thoughtmaybe.com/citizenfour/. “The initial impression”: Greenwald, No Place to Hide, 30. “Minutes after meeting”: Packer, “Holder of Secrets.” One possible reason: Snowden, interview with Williams; Bamford, “Edward Snowden”; Jane Mayer, “Snowden Calls Russian-Spy Story
Guardian. He needed to get a green light to go to Hong Kong from Janine Gibson, the editor of the Guardian website, who was based in New York. Under Gibson’s leadership, the Guardian's website effectively “gone into the business of publishing government secrets,” as Guardian columnist Michael Wolff point
protect himself from American surveillance. For example, when George Packer interviewed him for the New Yorker, in 2014, he insisted on meeting with Packer naked in a sauna so he could be sure Packer did not have a recording device (other than his notebook.) Appelbaum stated repeatedly in other interview
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