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e you -- why are you investing in, 9 I don't know, Apple when nobody liked Apple. This 10 is, you know, before Apple or Microsoft. I didn't 11 know Bill Gates, so this is not related to him. 12 But my family -- 13 DAVID MARKUS: Don't charge her with 14 insider trading. 15 G
cientific discoveries -- 6 well, not all of them, but many of them are coming 7 from the Eastern block and that's how we have the 8 relationship with Santa Fe Institute. 9 And Murray Gell-Mann, specifically. And I 10 introduced Epstein to Murray Gell-Mann. Sorry, to go 11 off on a tangent. 12
e you -- why are you investing in, 9 I don't know, Apple when nobody liked Apple. This 10 is, you know, before Apple or Microsoft. I didn't 11 know Bill Gates, so this is not related to him. 12 But my family -- 13 DAVID MARKUS: Don't charge her with 14 insider trading. 15 G
Page: Interview_Transcript_Maxwell_2025-07-25-cft_p4 →cientific discoveries -- 6 well, not all of them, but many of them are coming 7 from the Eastern block and that's how we have the 8 relationship with Santa Fe Institute. 9 And Murray Gell-Mann, specifically. And I 10 introduced Epstein to Murray Gell-Mann. Sorry, to go 11 off on a tangent. 12
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