25 MR. GOLDBERGER: May we come sidebar PHYLLIS A. DAMES, OFFICIAL COURT REPORTER EFTA00232374 38 1 on that, Your Honor? 2 THE—COURT7--Tt is—Tui 12- tv 3 recorded. 4 MR. GOLDBERGER: That's fine. 5 THE COURT: Defendant needs to 6 approach as well. 7 (Whereupon, there was a conference at 8