was never 14 in Jeffrey Epstein's home during that period of 15 time, period. 16 Q. I want to go back to the Ashes, if I 12:21:36 17 could. Joanne Ashe is not a lawyer, is she? 18 A. Joanne Ashe is not a lawyer, no. 12:21:42 19 Q. And is Alexi Ashe a lawyer? 12:21:44 20 A. Yes. 12:21:46