urrender? Is that the contention? SOUTHERN DISTRICT REPORTERS, P.C. (212) 805-0300 EFTA00093176 Case 21-770, Document 17-2, 04/01/2021, 3068296, Page103 of 351 51 k7e2MaxC kjc 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 MR. COHEN: To be precise, we were urging