Subject: Re: story's up Changed to Seth Lloyd. Here's my short in=erview with him from Moscow a few years ago, btw: http://ww=.businessinsider.com/seth-lloyd-dark-matter-aliens-2013-7 On October 10, 2017 at 3:50:35 PM, jeffrey E. ([email protected]) wrote: not kip thorne , use seth lloyd or marvin minsky