5 Q. Certainly he knew that they were there? 6 MR. CRITTON: Form. 7 THE WITNESS: I don't know, sir. 8 BY MR. EDWARDS: 9 Q. Do you know how Snows Mr. 10 Epstein? 11 A. No, sir. 12 Q. Or how long she's known him? 13 MR. CRITTON: Form. 14 THE WITNESS: She was on board two years 15 or