, isn't he? S A Yes. Q Ho'n a dean of the trial bar, right? 10 A Yes. Il 0 You agree with that? 11 A Yeah. 13 0 And at the time, Mr. Edwards wan about a 14 six-year lawyer, right? 15 A I don't know. I don't know when Brad started 14 practicing. He wasn't as senior as Bob Josefsborg. 17