9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 253 policy that sa s -- MR. : Yeah. MR. : -- that they need to do that? MR. Mileah. MR. : So, and if they're telling us that, are they lying to us, or are they just -? MR. : I think just think they're unaware or confused. MR