4 OP WHE OUMWU DAIHDUEUFWNPFP DMO DAHA SFWNE ps epusrene seme vere acenertmmrne cetera eta en zt TGS TU TENTS EEC EASE SEES PME PER SPER I MM NM NM NM NH Q. Okay. So as far as learning that Mr. Epstein was a billionaire, you learned via two ways, one was from Russ Adler, correct? Is that correct? A.