78 1 : I remember stepping to his 2 office, which was right next door to mine, and 3 notifying him that the cameras was down, that 4 I'm trying to go back and look at the footage, 5 and I can't. Actually, I had one of the 6 associate wardens with me, as well. Who 7 happens to be his supervisor, so. 8 MR. : Who was that? 9 MS. : Associate 10 MR. was there? 11 MS. : Yes. 12 MR. : Okay. 13 MS.-: It was me and her together, 14 looking at the cameras. 15 MR. 16 : Okay. So, and it wasn't it was actually 17 MS.-: No. It was me and AW 18 MR. : And that was with Captain 19 20 MS. Yes. 21 MR. : Okay. So then, the two 22 of them knew that the cameras were down? 23 MS. : Yes. 24 MR. : All right. And do you 25 know if they had any conversations with Daniel EFTA00127394

79 1 about a need to get them back up? 2 MS. : I don't know if they had a 3 separate conversation, but when I called Mr. 4 over to radio, Ms. was still 5 standing there with me in the office. And she 6 was there with me when he came up to check, 7 because we thought it was something that maybe 8 he can just go in, and it allow us to go to the 9 camera, 10 MR. 11 whole I'll stay overtime, and look for what we were looking for. : And when he mentioned the was she there when - 12 was there - when he mentioned that he 13 would stay to work overtime? 14 MS. I can't remember because I 15 know he had to get in touch with his boss 16 first. 17 MR. : Oh, okay. So -- 18 MS. Mm-hmm. 19 MR. : -- so, told us 20 that he was approved to work overtime on 21 Saturday, to come in on Saturday and work. Do 22 you know who he would have contacted, in order 23 to get that approval to work overtime? 24 MS. : I don't know. I would assume 25 his boss, which was Mr. (Phonetic Sp. EFTA00127395

80 1 *00:58:47). 2 MR. : Now, is out, and he 3 has acting in his life, (Phonetic 4 Sp. *00:58:53), and Ryan and 5 both say, he didn't talk to me about working 6 overtime. Is there anyone else that he would 7 have been -? Well, because you said that he 8 told you 9 MS. 10 MR. 11 official 12 MS. 13 MR. 14 approving 15 MS. he was going to work overtime. : Yes. : Would you be an approving for that? : No. : Wouldllill be an official, though? : I'm not sure if she was over 16 facilities, that department. So, I'm - no - 17 I'm not sure. 18 MR. : Okay. So, how did he 19 know he would be able to work overtime to fix 20 it? 21 MS. : I don't know. 22 MR. : You don't know? He just 23 said I'll work overtime. 24 MS. : Yes. 25 MR. : Okay. So, I'm assuming EFTA00127396

81 1 this was some time prior to 2:00 p.m. on the 2 8th, that you learned of this incident, since 3 his shift typically ends at 2:00 p.m.? 4 MS. : Yeah. It was a little after 5 1:00 p.m. 6 MR. : Okay. And that was the 7 8th. But again, on the 8th was the first that 8 you found out the cameras 9 MS. Yes. 10 MR. : -- were down? Do you 11 know if there is anyway anyone could have 12 tampered with that system, to intentionally 13 take the cameras offline? 14 MS. : I don't know. I don't know 15 because nobody normally goes into - with the 16 service bar - besides him. Or there's one more 17 communication tech, 18 MR. : Was he there, though, at 19 the time? 20 MS. : No. 21 MR. : So -- 22 MS. : No. 23 MR. : -- it was just - at the 24 time - it was only . Correct? 25 MS. : Yes. It was just EFTA00127397