the the Hello. Hi. Hi, how are you? Good. This is Detective Recarrier. Mommies, please. I'm calling you. Hi. Yeah, I have a victim. You sit up here. Okay. I'm definitely here if you would like to talk to her. Okay. What I wanted to do was talk with you a little bit about what you had told me before. And if you could, just have to step away, step out of the room for a moment, so we can talk about what you had told me before. Okay. I'm going to go over my house. Okay. I just heard your voice, man. It said that you were completely truthful with those of funny parents. I just want you to go over everything with me again as to what transpired exactly. I went there. I was in a place. Back up for a second. Back up for a second. You went there twice. Two times, right? Yeah. First time you went, what happened? The first time I went, and I found some both times. I found some both times, and I didn't accept the money. The first time I did that, the second time I did, I don't know why I guess it was just really scared. And I walked over the house, and I was just like, I want to leave. Okay. How did you get to Chess House? So. Yeah. Because I didn't know that. Okay. So she. What did you do? She just sat there on the kitchen. She sat in the kitchen. Really? Okay. Who brought you to Chess? Uh, let's go. Yeah, I wasn't yawning. She took you where? Upstairs. Took your upstairs to a bedroom? Yeah, to a bedroom. And I was like, I was freaked out. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to expect. I was just freaked out. I was just so scared. And I didn't like what. I told you guys, I was like, it's my parents' way there. I just, I was just, you know, I just felt so uncomfortable. Like, if you were to come back again to my house, I probably wouldn't have told you to chew it, so I wanted to call you. Okay. Well, I agree with you. Are you reaching out to me and then talking to me? Because during the investigation, obviously we do find out all the things. Yeah. And were there last night we know? Yeah. I know, I knew that happened. But I knew you know. I pushed the issue. Yeah. Okay. Let me go from there or exactly what happened there. You wanted to the bedroom? Yeah, I was actually trying to touch me and I stopped with him. Okay. And I was going way too fast. Oh, sorry? Was he in the room already when you went into the room? No. Okay. What did Sarah do when she left you to the room? She looked up to the bed in the first floor, be there. Okay. I don't know what they're called, but just like a little like thing and she like said it happened and she left. But she was really nice. Like I didn't know what to expect. Like you know, so that's all about happened and then he came up and I was like shaking. Like I was shaking and I was really bad. Okay. And I didn't expect you to do anything for a while. Like I didn't even think you could touch me. Like I was like okay, you found me and I was like playing around, you wouldn't touch me. Okay. And then like that the end, like. Were you closed or were you in? Yeah. I was like closed and then he tried to like touch me like try to like fill off my shirt. Yeah. And I was like flat with him. And I just walked down through and I was like okay, look down. I didn't like one once, forget about it. And I just never thought about it again and I was just like I'd like to go. Okay. But you went back. I went back like a little bit again and then he tried like. Like do you know a little bit more like I told him all the don't you know don't touch me. Just like don't touch me and I'm saying and like he tried to like I thought was him again. And then I just left again and I did it again and then I never went back. Okay. I don't know why I didn't know why I did that. But it doesn't happen. I can tell it happened. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. You took you the second time you won. And where was you doing the second time that this happened? Well, I was way down through. Okay. And who brought you up? Who brought you up again? Okay. And who brought you up again? Okay. Who set up the room again? Was he upstairs? Yeah. Unfortunately he worked. Okay. So that's like us what she does. Do you know who was the last name? No, I have no idea. Okay. So then after you were taking upstairs, did the room again? No, he wasn't in the room. He was in the room. He was in the room. He was in the room. He was in the room. He was never in the room at first. Okay. How does he come into the room? He just walks around and he opens the door and he says hi. Hi, how are you? And my key, I don't know. First I didn't know that he was touching because he takes a business call and stuff like that. He just plays there. And I was like, I don't know. I always feel comfortable. Like I didn't think everything was wrong. I thought I was here to massage him. And my gut is standing and it was happening to me. He didn't touch us along. I was like hoping you wouldn't do anything. But he was a key and business call and stuff like that. I was like okay you know. Okay. When you tried I was just freaked out. Okay. When he came into the room, did he close or was he with the call? Yeah. Was he in the towel? He was close. He was dressed. So then how did you give him on massage if he was dressed? He went into the room and he put a towel around him. Okay. There was another room in there and he went through the room and put a towel around his body. And I turned around and he lay down and then he was covered. Like it was just his back, so he was completely with the towel on at all times. Yeah. You never took off the towel? No. Okay. What were your expectations when you went upstairs? What were you told that you would have to do? Just massage him and like just talk to him like just be fun with him. Okay. Did he ever bring out any kind of sex toys? Oh no. I would have been more down the door. Okay. Like I was anyways. I was just like you know I'm going to leave. So you know I was out with him. Okay. So we did never because I'm assuming that he's the one that set up just thing for you right? Yes. Okay. Did he ever tell you what you would have to do to get paid and how much? Um, she did not what I heard was always 200. 200 for the massage. No. Yeah. That's what I asked her. Do you have any massage training? What I was training? Honestly I want to be massage therapist when I get older. Did you ever ask you your age? I don't remember. You don't remember? Uh-uh. I was very cool. Over here ago. Yeah. Okay. Um, I didn't want to get big feet back because if you want to call me and just say I mean I just don't want to say that. So is this conversation between me and you? Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay. I just don't want to say now. Okay. Don't you worry. Okay. Okay. I have another victim and they go to the room. Okay. Alright. Well, it was you. Yes, correct. Okay. See you guys. You've already, I'm sure you guys have been here before. Did I talk to the other guy that came over my house? That was me. Oh, that was you. Okay. I gave my sergeant George Frick. Okay. Yeah. I assume you guys already came over here. Right. Okay. Okay. I'll see you here now with me. Okay. So if you would blow up the top to her. Okay. Well, let me just go over a few things with you here. Um, the second time that you went, were you closed? Yes. I was closed for a both time. You never took off your clothes? No. He tried but I bowed down. Okay. Were you in, were you ever in your underglommas? No. No. I had that pulled on. Yeah. Okay. Um, when he tried to touch you, where, where, what area did he try to touch? Like bottom and upper body. Okay. Your, your products? Yeah. Did he touch your products? He tried to. I pushed his hand the way. Okay. Um, I told him I would like to know. I don't feel comfortable to not touch me. Okay. Did you touch your breast area? He tried to. I did the same thing. Okay. And did he ever touch you? No. He never touched me anymore. No. No, I don't do. No. I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have walked out. Okay. So there was no contact with the vagina area at all? No. No. Okay. I don't know what other girls have done but I don't know what other girls have done. Well, you know what the difference on the girls too, you know? Yeah, yeah. And I'm not like that. You know what I am. So I can't believe I even did this because I'm not like that. I don't know why I did. I just totally didn't expect anything like this. And you know, I'm like, I can see all the others are very scared. Okay. Do you know if you made any money by bringing you over? I'm not sure if she did. I'm both tired. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if she made money. Okay. Did you ever touch yourself as you were massaging him? No. No. He never touched himself in his... No, there is. Not with me. He has, and I don't know if he's ever done that to other girls but not with me. Not with you. No, it doesn't touch himself. Okay. Didn't attempt to massage him. Did he do anything? No. Not for a name. Okay. Then he knows he had had a girlfriend. He had one from the other girls. Right. No, I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah. Okay, after he was done, what happened? I just... I went downstairs. I just wanted to leave. What was that... What was that... When you were leaving? Either by anyone. I don't know. Nothing. I was just like, by... I was... I just wanted to leave. I thought it was going to come to a letter. I just don't want to stay there. Okay. Okay. What did you tell you after the incident took place? If he asked me out, what happened after that was very nervous and scared. I just don't want to be with him again. I was just second time seeing him. I said it both times. After the second time, I was like, I'm not a dancer. I'm not a dancer. I'm not a dancer. I'm not a dancer. That's what you're stopping from... Yeah. It hasn't arrived after I was stopping in front of her. After that, I just didn't want to be in front of her. We just didn't hang out as much. Then I just totally stepped on her. And that's been... That's been about like... Seven-eight months. This is when this happened. Seven-eight months ago. Yeah, this happened a couple of years ago. But I stopped being in front of her like seven-eight months. Okay. So you were like still fun, maybe like two or three months after that? Okay. No, I'm not in front of her anymore. I don't know if there are any more, I don't count her. I just... I don't know. I don't know. Forgot about that. And for long. Yeah. See, the part I have with... That is because she is under age. I can't reach out and just talk to her without her parental consent, without parents knowing that I'm talking to her. The parents don't need to be there if I'm talking to her. It's her choice. I'm sorry, is she'd rather meet up with you? Okay. Would you like to come here now? Unfortunately, I'm not in that area right now. But I would like to talk to her. Okay. She said that's fine. She works at five o'clock today every night. So if you can come tomorrow, do you work at... Where did she work at? She said she's not coming right now. She said that's the USA. We both work at this place. The USA is kind of like... What's the word, really? But for her marketing, kind of like... I don't know, Tom, I need to collect your reasons. That's like that. Okay. It's a fun reason. Also, you're the guy that's called out at night. Say... No, no, no. It's a word, just say you want to support that. Yeah, but it's not a known. It's not a known. Okay. But it's a fun reason. Yeah, it's a fun reason. You know, we just get people out at night. It's a fun reason. And they work every day at five o'clock. Yeah, it's the Monday to Friday. If you can meet up with her during the weekday before five... What time does she get out of school? She said she can meet up with you tomorrow morning before school. She doesn't go until 11. She doesn't go to 11 a.m. Yeah. Yeah. Tomorrow, we'll all do this until now, can't wait. Right. Okay. What school does she go to? What time does she get out of school? You all the time, do you guys go home? I don't get out of the morning. So you walk around to one. To one? I get out to three, four. I'm going to get out of one to five. Oh, 155. Okay, so let's say two o'clock. She gets out of two. You have two? Okay. So perhaps maybe after school? Maybe after school? Yeah, I know. You guys do what you want to meet her? Okay. Right down this number, I'll give you my cell phone number. Yeah, where does that... Okay, what is that? Okay. Okay. And then right after school? I have to say, I don't need to speak to you anymore. If you talk to you, you won't need to speak to you. You just tell them the reason. That's it. Just be truthful with me. I don't know. I don't know. I won't have to go back to the house. That's the thing, you know? Yeah. Okay. That's very right. That's very right. Has everything you told me been true and correct to the best of your knowledge? Yes. And you put a guy's about that? Yes. Okay. And don't just get him up to hear anything. No, don't. I'm not. No. I've already been interviewed. What did she say? I can't really tell you. Okay. There are a lot of people up in interviewed in this case. Yeah. So, but, you have not received any phone calls from anyone? No. You have not received the phone call from... No, I haven't. I haven't talked to her. I've never seen her. She's never used to call me. She's called me. Okay. Yeah. I've seen her. I've never talked to her. I've never talked to her when I was there. So, just to get to straight in my mind, when I was working for Jeff, did you know that you were going to go over there for the purpose of giving a massage? Yeah, I knew that, but it was going to be bad because I didn't think anything was just really bad. You should have a picture that you might have to remove your clothing? No. You should have a tell you that he might be touching you? She said if he does try anything, just walk out. And so she said, oh you just, you don't feel comfortable out. She said, but she's like, if. So. Okay. And she's telling more of that time what you were going to make. She said, I'm just too, too, 100. But I guess it's that, yeah, very true. I guess I don't know. Okay. So it's been such a long time. I don't even know how to count to them. And she's so long. I don't even talk to Jeff about the phone. Okay. She's talking. All right. I really appreciate it. And just if you can have a look at me tomorrow, when she's out of school, and we'll meet up out in that area. Okay. And then when she does get out of school, I'll be in that area already. Okay. It's scary, right? Joe, we're carrying. Joe, we're carrying. I really think you so much. All right. Thank you. Okay. I was a phone call, too. At the time of my watch, now it's 405 PM on the 4th of October of 2005.