I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. All right. I appreciate you coming down again. All right. The reason why I asked you to come down was that I'm investing in a case in which my investigation I believe that you have information on Jeff Epstein. Okay. Okay. First of all, before we even begin, let me just where you went. Okay. You raised right hand for me. You saw him as well to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So I hope you got. Yes, for help. Okay. Do you understand what I'm saying? I'm just trying to manage. Yeah. Okay. All right. First of all, do you remember Jeff? Yeah. Okay. It was an all-brillow. Okay. Why don't you tell me for the beginning and how you met him? Okay. It was something in high school. Everybody was like trying to make money and at the time I had two jobs, I guess. Not like two years ago or so. You got two years ago? Yeah. When you first met him. Okay. Yeah. Under the elephant team. What it is? You were 17 then? What is it that you were told you would have to do? Giving him a massage? Okay. No, it's it. Okay. Who took you there? Um, her name is... Okay. Um... All right. And... Do you have any formal massage training? No. No. Did... Did you take me there? Hey, we didn't take me there. Hey, we took one of our friends and then it was the one who took me because... Hmm, take me. Okay. Faith. Faith. Faith. Faith. Okay. Okay. When you got there, what happened? It seems really weird. The whole situation there were more girls in the house and then... Did you saw me just go upstairs? You know, the chairman of the room. It was the massage room. Like, you know, normal. And then you came, like, you know, and I gave him a massage. It was like... Okay. I've talked to a lot of girls and a lot of girls have told me different things. Okay. So I'm very aware of what happens when you provide a massage. When you got to the house, you went there... Yes. Okay. How did you come into the house? Do you remember? What do you mean? Did you go into the front door and come through the garage? Well, like, when you go inside, there's, like, the door. Our knife is the front door. I don't know. Is it a wood door? Because it goes through the kitchen. Okay. So you go through the kitchen? Yeah. Okay. And you were brought into the kitchen, right? Yes. Who was in the kitchen there? Oh, that's so old. So long ago? Yeah. I didn't remember, like, any of his assistants. She doesn't know the one that is. She doesn't know the one that is. She doesn't know the one that you met with. And then it was the neat, like, one that called me and liked all her that I wasn't going to do it anymore. I don't think her name is one. Okay. So when you come into the house and you go into the kitchen and meet with some people there, who takes you out? So I tell them to sit down and everything. I go and call Jeremy. That's what I was confused when you say, like, I don't know any of that. And then she takes me upstairs. I'm taking the stairs there. I'm taking the stairs there. I like all the time when I'm upstairs. Okay. Okay. So it takes you upstairs. Did you use the stairs? Yes. All anything weird when you were going up to stairs. The pictures. Okay. Pictures of what? Make it people. Make it people. Okay. Okay. She brings you into this. You said it was a massage room. Yeah. Okay. Is Jeffrey already there? No. No. Okay. Okay. Oh, I sit down there. She tells me just wait a second. Then she comes back and we put like the little bed for the massage. And then she's like, okay, there's some lotion. And he'll be right up. Okay. Then he comes in and he says, okay. Then he knows my name already. He's... I think he's like, okay, just a massage. Okay. When he came in, was he in a towel? Was he in a roll? No. He had like clothes. He was running or something. He had regular clothes on. Okay. And he got on the table with the clothes on. No. He took his clothes off. And he was like, uh, towel. He put a little towel over. Okay. So at any point did you see him naked? No. In the first time. No. So he lays on the massage bed with his towel. And you start massaging. You know, remember where you provided the massage. In the back. And he said. On his back, on his legs. Okay. How were you dressed when you were giving the massage? I was in the jeans and a t-shirt. Okay. Okay. At any point did he ask you to remove your clothes? Yeah. Okay. You just was doing the first massage? Yeah. And I said no. And you said no. Okay. Okay. Do you continue with the massage? Yeah. It's kind of weird out here. Okay. Um, so take me through then. From there you do the massage. I do massage after I finish. I was like, okay, here's some. Actually, he painted me before I started doing the massage. He painted. How much did he paint? 200. 200. At any time during your, when you're giving in the massage did he ever turn over? Yeah. On to his back. Okay. Tell me what happened after that. Oh, my son, like, um, what am I going to say? And his chest area? His chest, yeah. Okay. During the time that you were massaging him on his chest is he touching himself? Yeah. Okay. Explain that to me. Can you? Well, did you know he started getting really excited a lot? And he started touching himself. And that's, and that would say it all right? Okay. When you mean by touching himself, you mean he was masturbating? Yeah. Okay. And you told him to stop? No, I didn't stop. Oh, okay. Okay, so that while you're rubbing chest did he ever take off his towel? No. So how would he be able to masturbate if he... Well, he had his hand on the towel. So you never saw him? Did you ever see him? No. No, the first time I saw him, like, the second time. Okay. Okay. Okay. So then you did your massage? Yeah. Okay. What else happened to that? No, the other day I was after I was fading a chapter. Actually, he was, he's like, he was supposed to be an hour. For the first time, he was just 30 minutes. Okay. The time you were rubbing his chest and he was masturbating. Did he ever climax? No. Do you know what I mean by that? Yeah. How did you end the massage? Did he just say that's enough? Yeah. Okay. Okay, so then you went back downstairs? Yeah. And I say, to fade the cam down. And we left. Okay. Did he ever ask you to leave your telephone number to call you back? If you wanted to work? Yes. Yeah, the faith for your phone number. Okay. And the faith given me your phone number? Okay. Did faith get paid for taking you? No. How much did she get paid? Okay. So tell me about the second time. The second time, I remember who took me. I never dropped. I never went by myself. I was scared to die. But it was kind of like the same situation on the first one. But he offered me more money just to take my share off. Oh, not even. And he was the same. He did the same things. And then he took his towel off. Okay. And after he was gone. He never got to the climate. I never saw him. You were going to live? That's hard. That's how everything started? How's it going to school now? Half of the school, no bother. Okay. Let me back here for a second. Who calls you to go back to the house? Sarah calls you. And you make an appointment to go to work? Yes. Okay. And the same thing. You go into the back door into the kitchen area. And he takes you upstairs. Okay. He offered you more money to get naked? Well, he told me just to take my share off. Okay. And did you? No. But that's not the only two times you've gone. You've gone more times. He was like around like three or four times. I was just scared that he was giving me something. Okay. Did you photograph you? No. No, that I know. Did you ever take videos of you? No. Did you ever give them a massage with any other woman? Okay. Did you ever get naked while doing the massage? Once. But he was in my underwear. He was in my underwear completely naked. Okay. You stayed in your bottom underwear? I don't know. And your top. So you stayed in brown pants. Okay. You think it was the one that I took my call? That would say. Okay. And each time you went, did he offer you more money to do more things? Yes. Actually, I knew that because of... Because she asked me, she said, you have to give me more money if I have six with him. And I said, I know I can't have that. It's not what I'm going to do if I'm money. Okay. And by having sex, it means it occurs or... I guess. I don't know. I didn't like talking about it. Okay. The second time that you offer you more money to do more things? Yeah. I don't know. It's more just to take my share out. Okay. You said you didn't do it. Okay. Did he masturbate on the second time? Yeah. And did he ever climb... Actually, the second time, like, it wasn't that bad because he was like on the phone all the time. So he was... He was like paying attention. Okay. So did he ever, at any point, ever masturbate on the second time? Okay. Did he ever ask you any questions or speak to you or say anything? Well, I keep trying to talk to you just to make you comfortable with the situation. Like, what do you work? And like, you know, how much do you make as you're worried? And then you start saying, you can make more with me. And... But I don't feel like you would try. Okay. Did he ever know you were real age? After a while. Like, because somebody told him. But you were... Yeah. Well, he told us that we were supposed to say that we were 18. Okay. And who told you that? To say that. Um... He wasn't one who brought everything to everyone in school. That's how we knew all about it. And then you took... Took me. Okay. Did you go to get money for taking you or...? If she was going... Well, if someone would meet twice, I guess. I don't know what to say. And then I would... Okay. And did she make money? Did she make money for taking you to? No, I was taking her. Oh, you were taking her. So you brought... She knew her and she asked me if I could take her because she didn't know where you were. But I didn't get money out of there. Okay. Did anybody ever help you do a massage with him? Yes. Honestly, to do it with her. I made her a couple of walks. Okay. Alright. Talk to me about the third time you went. I don't remember. It was kind of... I don't always see what's the same. It was the same. And the most of happened because you know... He paid you more to do more things, right? Yeah, the third time it was when I took my share off. I stayed with you, bro. You stayed with your brother. Okay. And then that was when he paid me 300. He paid you 300 for that. Okay. And the same thing. Yeah. He came in, was he naked again? Yeah. And at that point he... But he's still playing with himself. Yeah. Okay. Do you know if any point did he ever climax during this? No. Okay. How would the massage end? Would he just say that's it? That's enough? Yeah. I mean, if you just like stand up and take a shower and let's grow my things. Okay. Alright.