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hey're taking a narrow 6 uncontested principle, that her net worth doesn't come in, and 7 are going to try to use it to exclude evidence that Ms. Maxwell 8 is making payments to the girls, that this mansion is a very 9 THE COURT: Well, okay. I don't think so. 10 MR. CASSELL: Let me just make sure
our Honor. Mr. Edwards -- again, 12 who is a party in this deposition and not a lawyer -- chimes in 13 to the special master and Mr. Dershowitz: "Q. Ghislaine 14 Maxwell was never the target of the investigation, was she?" 15 Confirming and arguing that Dershowitz is wrong about this 16 joint defense
uts. 21 At page 387: I witnessed the same thing -- all the girls 22 did -- the same thing I had to do was go and report to 23 Leslie Groff, and Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine was the 24 main lady. So again, we have an allegation by our client that 25 Ms. Maxwell was a part of a larger conspiracy. That's one
e going to try to use it to exclude evidence that Ms. Maxwell 8 is making payments to the girls, that this ma
heard it and therefore, 3 it would go to your state of mind and not for the truth of the 4 matter asserted. 5 The next case is United States v. Dupree. That's 6 another criminal case in this circuit, where a bank fraud 7 defendant was the subject of a temporary restraining order 8 issued to th
think they're taking a narrow uncontested principle, that her net worth doesn't come in, and are going to try to use it to exclud vidence that Ms. Maxwell is making payments to the girls, that this mansion is a very -- THE COURT: Well, okay. I don't think so. MR. CASSELL: Let me just make sure that I
she takes the Fifth. There are other things as well. For example, Sarah Ransome testified, I witnessed with my own two eyes Sarah Kellen reporting to Ghislaine in front of me, but I can't remember specifics. They weren't talking about girls. I can't remember the specific conversation, but every single perso
uts. At page 387: I witnessed the same thing -- all the girls did -- the same thing I had to do was go and report to Sarah Kellen, Leslie Groff, and Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine was the main lady. So again, we have an allegation by our client that Ms. Maxwell was a part of a larger conspiracy. That's one of SOUT
are going to try to use it to exclud vidence that Ms. Maxwell is making payments to the girls, that this mansio
and you heard it and therefore, it would go to your state of mind and not for the truth of the matter asserted. The next case is United States v. Dupree. That's another criminal case in this circuit, where a bank fraud defendant was the subject of a temporary restraining order issued to that defendan
hink they're taking a narrow uncontested principle, that her net worth doesn't come in, and are going to try to use it to exclude evidence that Ms. Maxwell is making payments to the girls, that this mansion is a very - THE COURT: Well, okay. I don't think so. MR. CASSELL: Let me just make sure that I
our Honor. Mr. Edwards -- again, 12 who is a party in this deposition and not a lawyer -- chimes in 13 to the special master and Mr. Dershowitz: "Q. Ghislaine 14 Maxwell was never the target of the investigation, was she?" 15 Confirming and arguing that Dershowitz is wrong about this 16 joint defense
and thereabouts. At page 387: I witnessed the same thing -- all the girls did -- the same thing I had to do was go and report to Leslie Groff, and Ghislaine Maxwell. Ghislaine was the main lady. So again, we have an allegation by our client that Ms. Maxwell was a part of a larger conspiracy. That's one of SOUT
e going to try to use it to exclude evidence that Ms. Maxwell is making payments to the girls, that this mansi
and you heard it and therefore, it would go to your state of mind and not for the truth of the matter asserted. The next case is United States v. Dupree. That's another criminal case in this circuit, where a bank fraud defendant was the subject of a temporary restraining order issued to that defend
Entities connected to both Ghislaine Maxwell and Dupree

Jeffrey Epstein
PERSON
Prince Andrew
PERSON
NEW YORK NY
LOCATION
Alan Dershowitz
PERSON
Michael Cohen
PERSON
Department of Justice
ORGANIZATION
Marc Rich
PERSONJeffrey Pagliuca
PERSON
Bradley Edwards
PERSONthe Southern District
LOCATION
Julie K. Brown
PERSONLaura Menninger
PERSON
Virginia Giuffre
PERSON
Lesley Groff
PERSON
New York City
LOCATIONSigrid McCawley
PERSON
Alfredo Rodriguez
PERSON
Colorado
LOCATION
Condoleezza Rice
PERSON
Paul Cassell
PERSON