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. But, you know I am not -- I don't think 1 am a very good judge of ages. If you ask me how old you arc. I really couldn't tell you. MR. CRITTON: Kathy thinks she's 25. MS. EZELL: In my dreams. TIIE WITNESS: Now, again. I must tell you, I was never told to check any i.d.s on any of the people who
he vibrators or back massagers 25 out after Mr. Epstein was in the room with any of Page 424 1 A. the girls who used to stay at the 2 home in Brillo used to go over there to the 3 Island. 4 Q. When he would have these girls -- I guess 5 we've kind of categorized them as the girls who 6 wou
re a partner in that? A. Yes. Q. Jeffrey Epstein? A. Excuse me? Q. Jeffrey Epstein is also a partner in that? A. No. Q. Do you -- MR. EDWARDS: Kathy, we can't hear you. • 0 ESQUIRE Toll Free: 800.211.3376 Facsimile: 954.331.4418 Suite 1300 515 East Las Olas Boulevard Fort Lauderdale, FL 3
that place, but he's had it for a while. Q. That's the house at 358 Old Brillo Way in West Palm Beach? A. I don't know the number, but it's Old Brillo. Q. The same house in West Palm Beach, that's the house we are talking about? A. I believe so. Q. Has your brother ever discussed working for th
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Prince Andrew
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